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Hikura Zero
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:09:00 -
[91] - Quote
Well that is bloody right out of order.
IF this was a free to play game I would understand.. But you're asking players to pay a secondary subscription fee on-top of the already expensive subscription fee.
Not cool. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:37:00 -
[92] - Quote
Hikura Zero wrote:Well that is bloody right out of order.
IF this was a free to play game I would understand.. But you're asking players to pay a secondary subscription fee on-top of the already expensive subscription fee.
Not cool.
They're not asking you to do anything.
They're making available the option of paying/PLEXing to do something that you ordinarily can't. Shockingly, if you don't exercise this option, your 'already expensive' subscription won't cost you anything extra.
If you don't want to do it, then don't; there is no force being employed here. |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:58:00 -
[93] - Quote
Not the greatest thing ever, but might come in handy in certain situations. Well actually it comes in handy every time you want an alt and dont need him to be logged in with one of your existing chars. If you want to create an alt and train him for longer periods of time while at the same time using him, a new account espacially for this character would make more sense.
But I dont see how this is a rip off. Every Eve player knows a vast amount of paying subscriptions are alt accounts. There even was an article about it somewhere. Two accounts for every player on average in Eve?
Yay 10 years! :D |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Nyratic
301
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:29:00 -
[94] - Quote
Beekeeper Bob wrote:dark heartt wrote:SDS Recruitment wrote:There is no
If's or Butts here
This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence
If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts
Actually I see them losing money from this. I only have one account at the moment, and have had no need for an alt account so I wouldn't pay for one. However this gives me the option to train an alt in a very specialised way but not lose training time on my main character. Quote:There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed So you don't want CCP to make money to keep running this game? Ok then. You are a particularly bad troll... You simply don't understand how alts are used. In order for most alts to be useful, they have to be online at the same time....  And CCP will do whatever is needed to take more of your money, this is EVE.....
I did not say that I don't have alts, I do, 4 of them in fact. At the moment those 4 accounts are unsubbed, as I have no use for them. And there are a number of uses that don't require the character to be online, but still making isk (PI, Manufacturing, Research, Invention, Market Shenanigans). I do understand alts.
I have no issue with CCP taking my money. They are a business, not some sort of gang robbing you blind at every opportunity. Everything here is optional, and if you choose to drop money on it, that's your choice. If you choose not to, that's your choice. Either option is fine, but you are at no point forced to take them up on the offers. Unless you have no self control and just buy everything that CCP puts out, then you have no reason to complain that a business wants to take your money. That's kind of the point.
Bienator II:
"You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."
I play in highsec. |
Joxxy
Vrane Club
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:42:00 -
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Dual training on one account is awsome idea and I personally love it ! |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
234
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:58:00 -
[96] - Quote
CCP is trying to make money?!
THOSE SELL OUTS!
Im going to write them a long angry letter about this, which I will have delivered to their HQ by a frowning pidgeon! |
Shiho Weitong
Koa Mai Hoku
Nulli Legio
31
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:02:00 -
[97] - Quote
Obvious troll is obvious, but I'll bite.
Imagine me and my 8 alts suddenly being trained on 3 accounts worth of money/isk.
Imagine the other altaholics, here doing the same.
While I do fuel my addiction with plex off the market, there's still someone dropping the cash for my gametime.
Let's not kill our game with player greed. |
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
477
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Posted - 2013.05.23 02:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
SDS Recruitment wrote:There is no
If's or Butts here
This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence
If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts
There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed
This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money
Shame on you
SHAME ON YOU
I think one plex should get you 2 months of training time, considering having two clients ( which costs the same or less ) means you can have both characters logged in at the same time. The loss of that benefit should be worth some sort of discount in the price.
Even 3 months for 2 plex would be o.k.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1648
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:15:00 -
[99] - Quote
Actually it will be a money loser. A lot of nullsec pilots simply want to quickly train PI alts on their account or Cyno characters and can now plex up to the SP they need for those goals and not need to purchase another account that they will have to keep running.
For purpose built alts this is frankly awesome and is going to let me strip down to just two accounts for the cost of 2 plex, and I can divest myself of my 3rd account which I have to keep plexed for the lifetime of my eve career if I want easy access to those cyno alts.
It's p baller frankly. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
5146
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:21:00 -
[100] - Quote
Yeah, CCP will potentially end up losing money on this. It really depends on user behavior though. Depending upon what people were doing beforehand with alts, character transfers, 51-day alts, etc.
-áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
425
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Posted - 2013.05.23 04:36:00 -
[101] - Quote
It is always funny to see how butthurt people are about companies gaining money from a product they made. Now we have one of the best companies in the (gaming) world and some hippies still begrudge them the money (besides the fact that they lose it instead of making moar).
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Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |
Andrea Griffin
463
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:15:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:So flexibility is all it is really  And some of us even appreciate it.
By the way, I think this is a great idea and I'm happy that it is happening. Thank you.
CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
702
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:50:00 -
[103] - Quote
Someone is definitly butthurt here!
"Also, your boobs  " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
3017
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:08:00 -
[104] - Quote
SDS Recruitment wrote:If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts
already do.
many people have at least 2 accounts with no more than 1 character per account. some even have more than 20 accounts. |
Macharius Deuterion
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:39:00 -
[105] - Quote
SDS Recruitment wrote:There is no
If's or Butts here
This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence
If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts
There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed
This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money
Shame on you
SHAME ON YOU
You know what? If you don't like the feature then don't use it. The thing is this feature doesn't change whether CCP is more greedy or not because its an optional one. |
KasparHauser
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:06:00 -
[106] - Quote
What? Corporations out to make money? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14358
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:30:00 -
[107] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah, CCP will potentially end up losing money on this. It really depends on user behavior though. Depending upon what people were doing beforehand with alts, character transfers, 51-day alts, etc.
You know, I think this is actually a very encouraging thing to see. It's essentially microtransactions done right. Maybe they've learned something?
Yes, on the face of it, it looks like something that will end up costing them making them less money than before, since it short-circuits a number of income sources. But what it does do is scratch that itch that makes MT work: it lowers the bar for usage and makes things massively more convenient. It used to be a bit of a faff getting a special-purpose alt going, what with the new account creation and character juggling, which created friction that kept people from doing itGǪ now, it's so trivial that no-one will even think twice. Just throw a PLEX at it and go ahead. There's no reason not to, so everyone will do it all the time and twice on Sundays. This translates into more money for CCP.
Sure, it's a bit of a bet on player behaviour, but I think it's a solid one that will undoubtedly pay off. And yes, this means they're back on the MT wagon, but this trial balloon shows that they're thinking about it right this time.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
54
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:45:00 -
[108] - Quote
SDS Recruitment wrote:There is no
If's or Butts here
This is nothing more than a way for ccp to make money and makes no sence
If people could afford to buy plex to bring ingame they would have dual accounts
There is NO viable reason why we should NOT be able to train three chars on one account or switch to each INGAME other than CCP greed
This is nothing more than a blatent market attempt to get more money
Shame on you
SHAME ON YOU
I think the shame is on you for even posting without any coherent argument. If you have ANY reading skills at all, there is a purpose to having it. Unfortunately, you are too dumb or too dense to even understand the dev blog they have crafted. Perhaps, a permanent visit to WOW and remain there should be advised.
TL:DR You are a dumbass and yeah STFU. |
Gorgoth24
Sickology
4
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Posted - 2013.05.31 01:37:00 -
[109] - Quote
Did you not consider that someone with two accounts may want to have a carrier on one account and add cyno alts to the other account. And, with this new mechanic, doesn't have to sacrifice training time to do so? I think it's a bit silly to call CCP money hungry because they're obviously one the most caring companies about their products in business right now. Come on |
None ofthe Above
621
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:20:00 -
[110] - Quote
I think it's a great idea and will be using it.
Thanks CCP!
Don't make me hand you a wizard hat. |
Haulie Berry
820
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:22:00 -
[111] - Quote
SDS Recruitment wrote:I am an idiot.
Fixed your OP for you, HTH.
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Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
1913
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:31:00 -
[112] - Quote
Yup, making it cheaper to train 2 toons is most def a rip off.
Pull your finger out buddy. |
Kijo Rikki
Perkone
Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:47:00 -
[113] - Quote
After reading this thread I asked someone in game about it. I was a little confused, sounds like you use a plex to train an alt on one account and runs out the same time the plex would run out on another account, it sounds like a total wash to me....
...then the wheels started turning, I could make a market or indy alt and train just enough to get them going and then I could have both toons on the same account and only pay for one account, whereas the old way you would have to continue to pay for both accounts in order to use them. Nice!
Then I thought seems kinda worthless for cyno alts, even after learning you can transfer them to a second account, its still a wash for cap pilots. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
90
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Posted - 2013.05.31 02:54:00 -
[114] - Quote
lol butts
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2036 |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
102
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:21:00 -
[115] - Quote
Kijo Rikki wrote:
...then the wheels started turning, I could make a market or indy alt and train just enough to get them going and then I could have both toons on the same account and only pay for one account, whereas the old way you would have to continue to pay for both accounts in order to use them. Nice!
That is precisely what it can do for you. OP doesn't seem to be about get his wheels turning though. |
Lilliana Stelles
743
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:28:00 -
[116] - Quote
I'm just afraid Dual Training will murder datacore and PI prices. Since datacore and PI characters only take a few weeks to train, and now they can be active 24/7 without paying an additional fee.
So it will be difficult to stay competitive in either market without using multiple characters on each account.
Incarna from 2009. 3 Years later and what we have doesn't look half as good as this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n41s1Iox18A |
GermanAkilae
CYN-TECH INDUSTRIES
1
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:35:00 -
[117] - Quote
I think it's a fairy good idea but i have issues with the fact that you pay -ú9.99 a month to play 1 account, or you can of course pay via PLEX but a PLEX costs around -ú16? so wheres the logic in pricing PLEX at -ú16 when its only worth -ú9.99 to sub the game? |
Freeman11
State War Academy
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:39:00 -
[118] - Quote
I see dual training as a particularly effective ISK sink - and nothing more. It is removing 520-580mil from the market while increasing the amount of players training skills.
This game is ruthless... |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
880
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:40:00 -
[119] - Quote
It's a good idea, as the community has been asking for this for as long as I can remember.
The sad part is that you can't play both toons at once .
I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner.
Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall
I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Ultim8Evil
Stargate SG-1
Fatal Ascension
53
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:48:00 -
[120] - Quote
All the cost of a 2nd account, without the flexibility.
Someone convince me otherwise  |
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