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Ravenal
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Posted - 2003.08.09 16:22:00 - [31]

yes, brilliant idea...

id like a complete readout from my shields and weapons...the range i was shot at...the range i did damage on...the speed of my missiles...etc!
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Posted - 2003.08.09 16:22:00 - [32]

yes, brilliant idea...

id like a complete readout from my shields and weapons...the range i was shot at...the range i did damage on...the speed of my missiles...etc!
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Avaton White
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Posted - 2003.08.13 16:41:00 - [33]

Ack my log window has gone insane. It either displayed one line only or nothing at all... Grrrr and I almost had what I needed. CCP can we just get the damage output put into a chat style window please? Get rid of those annoying timestamps too. They are worthless.
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Posted - 2003.08.13 16:41:00 - [34]

Ack my log window has gone insane. It either displayed one line only or nothing at all... Grrrr and I almost had what I needed. CCP can we just get the damage output put into a chat style window please? Get rid of those annoying timestamps too. They are worthless.
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Blinder
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Posted - 2003.08.13 17:55:00 - [35]

The other problem with the log window is that it can quite often lead to a LOT of lag when it trieds to update (for me, at least).

As for the damage type being done, just watch the weapons. They change color based on what ammo type is being used now, so you can tell that way. Besides, its pretty easy to know what damage a given type of weapon does anyhow, missiles are the only real wildcard until you find the name of one that hits you.
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Posted - 2003.08.13 17:55:00 - [36]

The other problem with the log window is that it can quite often lead to a LOT of lag when it trieds to update (for me, at least).

As for the damage type being done, just watch the weapons. They change color based on what ammo type is being used now, so you can tell that way. Besides, its pretty easy to know what damage a given type of weapon does anyhow, missiles are the only real wildcard until you find the name of one that hits you.
Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:29:00 - [37]

Hybrids do two types of damages, projectiles have many more possibilities. Lasers are limited as well, though have more flexibility than hybrid.

How do you tell what type?

Now after saying that, i'd like to put in:

Having a log window would be very nice, specialized for fighting. Damage types/ranges/specifics should NOT be included with it.
Just the current stats, "So and so barely scratches you for 2 damage."
Use your head for the rest.

The window is a great idea, something small and uncomplicated, perhaps like the journal, which is indexed so you can sort it. (I'm pretty sure)
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.08.13 18:29:00 - [38]

Hybrids do two types of damages, projectiles have many more possibilities. Lasers are limited as well, though have more flexibility than hybrid.

How do you tell what type?

Now after saying that, i'd like to put in:

Having a log window would be very nice, specialized for fighting. Damage types/ranges/specifics should NOT be included with it.
Just the current stats, "So and so barely scratches you for 2 damage."
Use your head for the rest.

The window is a great idea, something small and uncomplicated, perhaps like the journal, which is indexed so you can sort it. (I'm pretty sure)
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Idiots make us rich.
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Blinder
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Posted - 2003.08.13 20:03:00 - [39]

Hybrids and Lasers both do 2, kinetic/thermal or EM/thermal.

Yes, projectiles are a little more varied, but kinetic is always involved, and there is usually some thermal in there as well (explosive and EM are the main wildcards... though I think there's one that does kin/exp, not sure).

So, you KNOW what damage you're up against with lasers/hybrids, and you know that you can do well by defending against at least kinetic against projectile users. So, really, its just the /other/ projectile damage you need to worry about, and the popular one there is EM (EMP, and Photon). So, if you carry any two of kinetic, EM, and thermal hardeners you're pretty good against most attacks, and can be very well off indeed against one of them.
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Posted - 2003.08.13 20:03:00 - [40]

Hybrids and Lasers both do 2, kinetic/thermal or EM/thermal.

Yes, projectiles are a little more varied, but kinetic is always involved, and there is usually some thermal in there as well (explosive and EM are the main wildcards... though I think there's one that does kin/exp, not sure).

So, you KNOW what damage you're up against with lasers/hybrids, and you know that you can do well by defending against at least kinetic against projectile users. So, really, its just the /other/ projectile damage you need to worry about, and the popular one there is EM (EMP, and Photon). So, if you carry any two of kinetic, EM, and thermal hardeners you're pretty good against most attacks, and can be very well off indeed against one of them.
Avaton White
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Posted - 2003.08.14 02:25:00 - [41]

Ok you guys are missing my point. I know what kind of damage I'm doing. I need to know what kind of damage I'm taking. Currently all I have to go by is stuff like, "uhhh it's a red flash" or "it makes a strange pow noise". This is silly.
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Cypher IX
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Posted - 2006.12.13 12:23:00 - [42]

Please read this CCP!!! And take action on it!!! EVERYBODY WANTS IT!



I've wanted this since the first hour of playing EVE!!! It would make SO much sense to have a small window, even if it's just

- Angel Legionnaire (1) target locked onto Gang Member 1.
- Angel Depredator (1) hit Cypher V for 60 explosion type damage. (Shield depleated.)
- Angel Depredator (2) hit Gang Member 1 for 12 explosion type damage.
- Gang Member 1 hits Angel Legionnaire (1) for 126 explosion type damage.
- *Gang Member 2 warped onto location.
- You hit Angel Legionnaire (1) for 75 explosion type damage.
- One of Gang Member 1's drones hit Angel Legionnaire (1) for 5.1 kinetic type damage.
- *Angel Legoinnaire (1) exploded. *Gang Member 1 [drone] issued final blow.
- Gang Member 2 target locked onto Angel Depredator (2).
- Gang Member 2 uses 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I on Angel Depredator (2).
- etc.

Put a couple ideas in there too as you can see :)

Maybe have the choice to make it colour coded so as the names and damage and damage type are coloured so it's easier to see the important bits of information you want to see fast. (I tried to do the whole <font color="red"> thing to show you what I meant, but it didn't work, argh.) Black background, or darkened, whatever.

A filter to get rid of the bits you don't really want to see, like "*Gang Member 2 warped onto location." and "Gang member 2 used some crazy thing on someone."


Hmm, maybe I went overboard... Meh, I still think that it would be a VERY useful tool to have!




See you in game!,
Dan,
A.K.A. Cypher V.

ps. Thanks for bringing this up Avaton White!
Evo6
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Posted - 2006.12.16 02:28:00 - [43]

It's not in game but you might find the EVE Combat Log Analyser useful for understanding what happened in a fight.

http://utter.chaos.org.uk/~dean/cla/

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