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Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.03 12:25:00 - [1] We really need a combat damage window similar to a chat window that we can scroll through and see what really happened with the ability to log the output. The way it is now I can barely tell what's going on since all of my weapons' damage output gets overlapped in the single "popup" style window. A lot of time I get shot and have no idea what kind of damage I'm taking etc. etc. This window also needs to include damage type like what kind of weapon was used against you and what kind of damage it hit you for and vice versa. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.03 12:25:00 - [2] We really need a combat damage window similar to a chat window that we can scroll through and see what really happened with the ability to log the output. The way it is now I can barely tell what's going on since all of my weapons' damage output gets overlapped in the single "popup" style window. A lot of time I get shot and have no idea what kind of damage I'm taking etc. etc. This window also needs to include damage type like what kind of weapon was used against you and what kind of damage it hit you for and vice versa. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.08.03 16:06:00 - [3] Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 03/08/2003 16:14:56 I so deeply agree they need to revamps that window, I think I'll just keep bumping this until they give in :) Although it wouldn't be right if people would know exactly what weapon was being fired on them and which ammo is in it.
Indigo Seqi Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.08.03 16:06:00 - [4] Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 03/08/2003 16:14:56 I so deeply agree they need to revamps that window, I think I'll just keep bumping this until they give in :) Although it wouldn't be right if people would know exactly what weapon was being fired on them and which ammo is in it.
Gullan Coco	Posted - 2003.08.03 16:40:00 - [5] agree to 100%. and that little silly window we have should be movable. Right now it pops up almost in the midle of the screen. Very irritating imo.
Gullan Coco	Posted - 2003.08.03 16:40:00 - [6] agree to 100%. and that little silly window we have should be movable. Right now it pops up almost in the midle of the screen. Very irritating imo.
Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:04:00 - [7] Good point Indigo Seqi. I agree that the weapon and ammo shouldn't be displayed but at least display the damage type. EM, Thermal, Explosive. etc. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:04:00 - [8] Good point Indigo Seqi. I agree that the weapon and ammo shouldn't be displayed but at least display the damage type. EM, Thermal, Explosive. etc. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Athan	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:06:00 - [9] Look at the bottom icon on the Neocom "log", it shows just this kind of thing and you can select all/copy and then paste it elsewhere. However, it can have a bug where it just repeatedly shows one line at the top, refreshed for every hit. Also, an option to log this to a file for later perusing without having to faff with copy/paste would be VERY VERY VERY good. I've a script I run against such output to find average dmg/hit for weapons and it'd help a lot gathering that data . -Ath -- http://big.wayland.dk/Lottery.asp - The BIG Lottery
Athan Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:06:00 - [10] Look at the bottom icon on the Neocom "log", it shows just this kind of thing and you can select all/copy and then paste it elsewhere. However, it can have a bug where it just repeatedly shows one line at the top, refreshed for every hit. Also, an option to log this to a file for later perusing without having to faff with copy/paste would be VERY VERY VERY good. I've a script I run against such output to find average dmg/hit for weapons and it'd help a lot gathering that data . -Ath -- http://big.wayland.dk/Lottery.asp - The BIG Lottery

Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:24:00 - [11] I know about the neocomm thing but I need something I can use in battle on the fly without having to look for it. i.e. chat style pop up. See my original post. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.03 17:24:00 - [12] I know about the neocomm thing but I need something I can use in battle on the fly without having to look for it. i.e. chat style pop up. See my original post. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.07 11:24:00 - [13] Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.07 11:24:00 - [14] Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Vel Kyri	Posted - 2003.08.07 11:29:00 - [15] love the idea - a "damage control window". need to know what damage i am getting from different pirates/ships etc... -----
Vel Kyri	Posted - 2003.08.07 11:29:00 - [16] love the idea - a "damage control window". need to know what damage i am getting from different pirates/ships etc...
Scragg	Posted - 2003.08.07 14:07:00 - [17] Would be kind of kewl to be able to see how a battle really went. Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations
Scragg Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2003.08.07 14:07:00 - [18] Would be kind of kewl to be able to see how a battle really went.
Werewolf	Posted - 2003.08.07 14:58:00 - [19] Quote: Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? Yes. It would be nice to check the effectiveness of different weapon setups quickly and to be able to turn the damage display off like minimizing the chat window.
Werewolf Amarr	Posted - 2003.08.07 14:58:00 - [20] Quote: Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? Yes. It would be nice to check the effectiveness of different weapon setups quickly and to be able to turn the damage display off like minimizing the chat window.

Elaron	Posted - 2003.08.08 00:33:00 - [21] I find that one of the problems with the current damage log is that if several of your guns go off at the same time, only one is recorded. Really irritating. Elaron CEO E.S.M.C. It is never too late to correct the mistakes of the past.
Elaron Minmatar Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2003.08.08 00:33:00 - [22] I find that one of the problems with the current damage log is that if several of your guns go off at the same time, only one is recorded. Really irritating.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.08.08 00:37:00 - [23] It's pretty much like with the drones, one second they're there unscratched, the next they're toast, a slowmotion replay perhaps? Convert Stations
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2003.08.08 00:37:00 - [24] It's pretty much like with the drones, one second they're there unscratched, the next they're toast, a slowmotion replay perhaps? Ourselves Alone
Amicus	Posted - 2003.08.08 01:02:00 - [25] Edited by: Amicus on 08/08/2003 01:03:53 Avaton, A make-do solution, drag and drop the Neocom log box into your chat boxes. You will then have it as a tab option with your set of chat boxes. It will not be "pop-up" exactly but it will be "chat style." Optionally, You could add the log box to whatever box you commonly keep open on your display in addition to chat. For example, I keep a box open on my display with tabs for my cargo hold and addresses. Those boxes are not usually needed during combat, and the log box could be added as a tab to that set. It is true that using the Necom log box is not as handy as a pop-up.
Amicus Gold Diggers Inc.	Posted - 2003.08.08 01:02:00 - [26] Edited by: Amicus on 08/08/2003 01:03:53 Avaton, A make-do solution, drag and drop the Neocom log box into your chat boxes. You will then have it as a tab option with your set of chat boxes. It will not be "pop-up" exactly but it will be "chat style." Optionally, You could add the log box to whatever box you commonly keep open on your display in addition to chat. For example, I keep a box open on my display with tabs for my cargo hold and addresses. Those boxes are not usually needed during combat, and the log box could be added as a tab to that set. It is true that using the Necom log box is not as handy as a pop-up.
Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.08 01:59:00 - [27] Hey cool! Thanks for the tip about docking the log window in the chat window. That's pretty close to what I wanted. Now if it just reported the damage type and didn't go bonkers and erase it's entire contents sometimes it would be exactly what I need. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.08 01:59:00 - [28] Hey cool! Thanks for the tip about docking the log window in the chat window. That's pretty close to what I wanted. Now if it just reported the damage type and didn't go bonkers and erase it's entire contents sometimes it would be exactly what I need. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White	Posted - 2003.08.09 14:04:00 - [29] Docking the log box in the chat window has been working great BUT, I'd love to be able to turn off the time stamps as they are just clutter and the ability to see the damage type is sorely needed. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------
Avaton White Amarr Doomheim	Posted - 2003.08.09 14:04:00 - [30] Docking the log box in the chat window has been working great BUT, I'd love to be able to turn off the time stamps as they are just clutter and the ability to see the damage type is sorely needed. ------------------------------------------------ "The best defense is a dead opponent." - Avaton White "The very notion of adding new features to broken code is self defeating to the point of being borderline insane." - Par'Nabuk ------------------------------------------------



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