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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Nero Scuro
Originally by: Lord Frost
Edited by: Lord Frost on 18/10/2005 19:37:31
ROFLMAO
Gate Ganker = Chestpopper = Lame Griefer = Egomaniac
wait, shoot, safespot, wait, shoot, safespot... lather, rinse, and repeat.
no effort, no skill, no thrill... nuff said.
I'd insult you but by the time I finish posting this you'll have probably managed to choke on air, so it'd be a waste of time.
Ahhhhh... one of our local friendly chestpoppers. I'll assume you pass your time by expoloting every loophole Eve has to offer. Why don't you switch your Eve game skill level from "easy" to "difficult".. I think its time.
The air from here smells so good!
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:07:00 -
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this is NOT a CCP stop all PvP thread
its simply a statement .1-.4 space is NOW more dangeres than 0.0 I dont agree with that
also I was unaware that gate campers had it so "easy" when I started this post as many ppl say that even if I cloak my mega and get close enough to gank them all they will do is warp before I get a lock I did not know that that could be done
I do agree that the penalty for multi stacking needs to be stiffer as a BS should never IMO have a 300 KM range
yeah you can call me a idiot for calling gankers lame that fine I got a thick skin I can take it
as for the needless ganking let me see shuttles, pods (unless you are at war with that corp/charector), noob ships and the ganks that are just because I can ones
also the point about lock times are a exelent one it takes a indy 30+ secs to log a frigate while a BS (with the right modules,skills and remote boosters) can do it in less than 1 sec
I hope that the added ship HP that CCP got planned will help some with this problem as it is now things suck
as for making a random Concord response in 0.0 that has been something many of us has asked for for a while (never going to happen)
tanking a sentry also needs to be changed (if what that poster said is true) 1000 Points every 1.5 secs is redicules I agree that the guns should not be jammeble (we had alot more problems when they where) but a decent tank should be able to survive a sentry (for a while atleast) so let the hardners work atleast (and let the sentry cycle between targets)
I dont have a problem with ppl tanking the sentry's
I dont have a problemn with corps at war with mine podding me
I dont have a problem with PvP period
gate campers though if it can be done as descriped will kill the game
exodus my behind we are exodusing into the safety of empire
Thank You
Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Skooney
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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:14:00 -
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I have had a good chuckle reading this entire thread.
Just a couple of points/my 2 cents:
1. If I had 100million ISK in cargo - I would invest a little in an "ESCORT".
2. How in a game universe where just about anything is possible do you complain about the endless possibilities?
Universal Agencies
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GavTheMighty
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Posted - 2005.10.18 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: GavTheMighty on 18/10/2005 20:35:27
Edited by: GavTheMighty on 18/10/2005 20:33:19
Originally by: Nero Scuro
Originally by: Darkenral
Hey nero is it possible for you to post ever w/o being an insulting *****?
Not if you continue to be a dumbass, and don't even bother reading the posts already made before posting.
Originally by: Darkenral
There are so many ways to make ISK in this game w/o griefing other ppl. I suppose that griefing others plays no part in the whole gate camping drama?
From my personal point of view, I don't care if the person I ransom/destroy goes and tops themselves for their loss, or they just whistle and carry on their way. I treat them like NPCs. They are there for me to exploit. They are the fuel of my profession, just as 'roids are the fuel of miners and insta-spawning, personal safespotted NPC battleships are the fuel of the lazy lvl4 mission *****.
If my marks take the effort to implement the myriad ways the game already provides to fight back/avoid me, then good for them. If they don't, and instead choose to whine on these forums, good for me. I will insult these people. They deserve it.
And there is the problem you dont care, As you said you treat real people with real feelings like any other NPC. I have seen this same argument from years ago to now and what you have stated here is the bottom line:
Its a matter of people not even game mechanics end of story, For instance I could easily take up PVP more become a pirate and hunt people down and I think there is nothing wrong with it. But I would make it more of yee old swashbuckle type pirate take the money smack em on the bum let em go. Or if it was another pirate or someone else intent on destoying me sure by all means blow eachother up.
But here is the ***** a lot of people are not playing like a community where its a game and we all have fun and to be honest where we all wish everyone else is having as much fun as us. They play simply to show how great they are, Or to show how they have overcome some game mechanics, Or to laugh knowing they have annoyed someone by killing them in pointless fashion.
Or maybe whats even worse is that ones that just dont care..........everyones just another npc or isk to me..........really? How sad why play an online game then? Truly? Id love to know?
I mean its happened many a time a lowly shuttle comes through is ganked even when the pilot has asked if he can pay them only to be podded and the derided in local and laughed at? Come on really? That was some challenge eh killing something worth nothing that cant fight back and basicly upsetting the person thats part of YOUR gaming community? I will hear the usual lame arguments the flaming the name calling of course.
But then what would I expect from certain players who have no regards for the people around them? Quite frankly Its a large game with a lot of options please dont blame CCP for everything try and sometimes think outside the game? Are my actions fun for all? Am I being a decent and fair person?
I love pirates dont get me wrong but Like what has been stated previously when you get 3-4 Pirates camped at a gate (How sad and dull is that?) That think its just a hoot when they kill the Shuttle or Lowly Frig flying noob as he comes through the gate........Well do I really have to say it?
Lets turn it around shall we? Here I am Mr Noob Flying my newly bought Frig not knowing much about the game? Thinking wow this game is great Im having so much fun I liked missions and mining I think I will go explore a little. BAM through a gate dead and podded he of course then turns to his destroyers and says why did you do that? You then of course say Because Im a pirate dumbass and I kill people. Well Yes your argument actually has merit. But the noob isnt happy. And thus for no real gain what-so-ever you have just ruined someones enjoyment of the game for that day. Congrats your now a full blown P***K 
Things need balancing for sure but Peoples attitudes.......well somethings nev
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St Dragon
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Posted - 2005.10.18 21:29:00 -
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Heh my adice is this 2 of your mates warp in to attack the gate gankers they warp away to hide in a ss meanwhile you in your covert ops frig go and find them using probes. Wont work everytime as probes can be seen but if it does
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.18 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Nomen Nescio
And this is a problem (or exploit) of 2 game systems: gun tracking and target lock. Bs guns are not supposed to track that good and bs are not supposed to lock that fast. But having alt in a scorp who boosts you and your bs becomes a friking destorer with 150km range and insta lock - due all respect its sick, it has nothign to do with pvp at all.
You really think that's an exploit? I wonder why CCP made tracking links, tracking computers, sensor boosters and remote sensor boosters. 
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.18 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Paw Sandberg
its simply a statement .1-.4 space is NOW more dangeres than 0.0 I dont agree with that
Just stop talking. Please.
0.0 is safe because there are giant blobs of self-righteous imbeciles (alliances) roaming around outnumbering all they encounter.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.18 21:42:00 -
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I've probably said this before, but this time... I really mean it.
This is the absolutely all-time most moronic thread I have ever read with most of the comments coming from a bunch of sniveling dolts.
Here, I'll lay it out real easy like for you:
1) Don't go into low-sec if you don't want to get shot at.
2) If you do want to be shot at, take proper precautions.
3) See the first point.
End of story. Problem solved.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.10.18 21:50:00 -
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OH NOES! HELP ME CCP I'M BEING PVPED!
Originally by: Berneh
You will never take me aliv coppers 
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Torze
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Posted - 2005.10.18 22:17:00 -
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I really don't have a problem with gatecampers too much...I do think CCP could do a few things to relieve the true noobies though.
1) stop having level 1 and 2 missions run into low security space. At least the ones that start in 'Safe' space. This would make it so they don't HAVE to go there and so if you are in low sec space then well, your fault for being there.
2) Reduce the signature radius of the shuttles AND remove their cargo hold. People can whine all they want that they were just flying a shuttle and had no reason to be shot at but, let's face it, there have been times when one or more bpo's have been moved via shuttle. Shuttles should only be in the game for fast transportation of your character from one place to another.
3) They could think of adding long range sentry warp disruptors that last x amount of time after firing on a target. Would certainly increase the risk of gate camping.
4) Random patrolls in 0.1-0.4 space might not be a horrible idea...or Concord could show up on a pod kill....it is still technically empire space...say have Concord show up 5-10 minutes if they show up at all. I certainly do not believe in any type of policing of gates in 0.0 space as well...it's 0.0 and unclaimed by any empires.
5) They could just simply add a timer to how fast someone can warp away once they hit start to warp. Say 10-15 seconds. Of course, alot of the people whining about the gatecampers might not like that idea too much since well, it would make it harder to escape pirates that attack say a mining operation...but, just an idea.
Well, that's my 2 cents.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.10.19 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
Originally by: Nero
Do YOU have any figures? No. So neither of us can say for sure whether pirates are doing it for ISK or not. But I'm going to assume they are, because it's a ******* PROFESSION. Saying all pirates just do it for fun is like me saying all lvl4 mission *****rs do it for fun.
Why? Neither profession is entertaining in the least. They are both lucrative. So I'll just assume the obvious, you can assume based on worn-out stereotypes.
Course I don't have any figures neither do you. As you so well pointed out. So why argue on that fact to begin with. You don't know and he/she doesn't know. It's like trying to prove if GOD lives down the street. Why argue if you DONT KNOW.
If you're not doing piracy for fun then why are you doing it. Is EVE a job to you now? I don't know about you cool cat but I pirate because it's fun. I can earn more ISK mining the rare ores in 0.0 over TIME than I could gate camping with my wussy friends. It's just that mining isn't really fun. It's damn work and really hard to macro-gank. So yes, I sure hope everyone pirates for fun. That why I do it...
Just arguing your crying thread about the carebear crying because someone said you couldn't argue that moronic post.
First point - because I'm not the one saying how the game should be changed based on statements that don't even closly resemble fact.
Second point - Piracy is boring to me. Why? Because when I pirate I'm shooting things that almost never have any chance of fighting back. I pirate to make ISK, for the last damn time. I use the ISK I make pirating to do things that are fun but which don't really rake in ISK. Such as fighting people who DO have a chance of winning. Get it now?
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.10.19 03:31:00 -
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OMFG... someone has insecure problems. All those posts is a row... wow.
*cough* nero *cough* scuro *cough*
"Chestpopper" - someone who acts tough by flexing and his chicken chest... trying to show signs of manliness, when in reality he's a cowering little girl.
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