Originally by: Shifu

---

to MASS: at this point itÆs clear you are unable to fulfil executor position of our regionÆs alliance. YouÆre the ones to blame for stainersÆ losses and grief. Step aside.

---

Originally by: Proconsul Para

---

What's with Stain area, caps lock and typos !?

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

---

Originally by: NAFnist

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

---

ok

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

you don't understand biolek. it's not fun to fight xenos, just because of reasons above.

---

Originally by: shivan

---

Originally by: NAFnist

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

---

ok

---

---

Originally by: Minmatar Vengance

---

Edited by: Minmatar Vengance on 18/10/2005 08:36:13
There is NO place, that can not be found, with a scanprobe.

You launch a deepspace scanprobe looking for battleships in a system, and you find it, no mather HOW far it is. You then are within 70 AU, and can start drop your 192 AU probes, and take it from there.

---

Originally by: Shifu

---

Жителям стейна: Не мы начали эту войну, все вы первыми поставили нас в КОС, однако несмотря на удар в спину от бывших союзников, мы готовы сделать шаг на встречу. Все кто хочет остаться в стороне от этого конфликта может сделать это, покинте зону бовеых действий и мы не станем убивать вас, покинте SA и мы станем защищать вас!

Не заблуждайтесь на наш счёт, это обращение акт доброй воли, а не признак нашей слабости. Но прежде чем перейти к более активным действиям и дабы прекратить бесмсленные упрёки о стрельбе по братьям которые мы слышим в локале мы делаем это шаг навстречу.=-

---

Originally by: Shifu

---

Hence our messages:

to MASS: at this point itÆs clear you are unable to fulfil executor position of our regionÆs alliance. YouÆre the ones to blame for stainersÆ losses and grief. Step aside.

---

Quote:

---

WeÆre committed to fight Mass and supporters to the end, donÆt be fooled by their propagande, weÆll show no weakness or mercy. Consider yourself warned. Stain must be Mass-free.=-

---

Originally by: shivan

---

But as I said in another post, MASS isnt the problem, its there leadership.

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.
6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

but they are good fighters, and i know they hate me, but i'm not. i'm totally neutral to them.

---

Originally by: mahhy

---

Originally by: shivan

---

But as I said in another post, MASS isnt the problem, its there leadership.

---

I love you too Species <3. I do! I dunno why the hell we're such bitter enemies, when we were such good friends at one point. We need to kiss and make up.

Well, maybe not the kissing part...

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.
6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

but they are good fighters, and i know they hate me, but i'm not. i'm totally neutral to them.

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship

---

Originally by: Tiwaz

---

Xeno's where nearly the only corp in the wars ive been it with stain, who could fight back in a effectiv way.

GG shifu

tiwaz

---

Quote:

---

a) You were "boarding" your pod... which is admittedly rather silly since technically you never left it.

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.
6. SA is bunch of idiots. i hate SA.

but they are good fighters, and i know they hate me, but i'm not. i'm totally neutral to them.

---

Originally by: TRIGGER

---

xb are indeed a very good corp.
I accepted them into sa because of this .
however they cannot and will never win this particular fight and the sooner they see this the better .
until such time they remain a thorn .

---

Originally by: Dark Shikari

---

Originally by: Minmatar Vengance

---

Edited by: Minmatar Vengance on 18/10/2005 08:36:13
There is NO place, that can not be found, with a scanprobe.

You launch a deepspace scanprobe looking for battleships in a system, and you find it, no mather HOW far it is. You then are within 70 AU, and can start drop your 192 AU probes, and take it from there.

---

Not if its off the plane of the ecliptic by over 1 AU.

---

Originally by: Creamster

---

biolek, I'm not sure how you'd feel after reading such a message but pretty much all XB's were ****ed off.

---

Originally by: Minmatar Vengance

---

Originally by: Dark Shikari

---

Not if its off the plane of the ecliptic by over 1 AU.

---

What do you mean?
Why not?

---

Originally by: Kozak

---

SA as an alliance doesn't provide the security it promissed them when they attacked SE. With RA and RAT inhabiting 5 space and Xenobytes roaming free in the south, it's more unstable then before Mass came back.

Everyone in SA was saying how this is good for stain. Is it really? Is the region more stable now?

If you don't like the situation in SA, come on over to SE.

---

Originally by: Freeky Frenchy

---

Originally by: Kozak

---

SA as an alliance doesn't provide the security it promissed them when they attacked SE. With RA and RAT inhabiting 5 space and Xenobytes roaming free in the south, it's more unstable then before Mass came back.

Everyone in SA was saying how this is good for stain. Is it really? Is the region more stable now?

If you don't like the situation in SA, come on over to SE.

---

lol you need more miners in sonama ?

Is XB the only corp in SE with balls and comes into 0.0?

PS Yes Im an alt, what ya going to do about it ) alts 4tw

---

Originally by: Freeky Frenchy

---

Originally by: Kozak

---

SA as an alliance doesn't provide the security it promissed them when they attacked SE. With RA and RAT inhabiting 5 space and Xenobytes roaming free in the south, it's more unstable then before Mass came back.

Everyone in SA was saying how this is good for stain. Is it really? Is the region more stable now?

If you don't like the situation in SA, come on over to SE.

---

lol you need more miners in sonama ?

Is XB the only corp in SE with balls and comes into 0.0?

PS Yes Im an alt, what ya going to do about it ) alts 4tw

---

Originally by: Camador

---

Entire time weve been down in stain, I havent seen a single MASS pilot.

---

Originally by: biolek

---

Edited by: biolek on 18/10/2005 16:54:38

Originally by: Minmatar Vengance

---

Originally by: Dark Shikari

---

Not if its off the plane of the ecliptic by over 1 AU.

---

What do you mean?
Why not?

---

me personally thinks this is a bug as my own experience told me that you cant probe succesfull if your probes are on different planes, for example not all of them z-axis wise on or near the ecliptic plane.
same goes for the expected targets.

---

Originally by: dalman

---

Originally by: Camador

---

Entire time weve been down in stain, I havent seen a single MASS pilot.

---

Maybe that's cause the guys running your covert ops alts only tells you to log in when they've found a lone miner that you can gank?

---

Originally by: Camador

---

Regardless. havent seen any mass. and ive been around the entire stain region

---

Originally by: Amarr CEO

---

Greetings,

I see alot of smack and why this and what about that.

Aswell as agreeing with Cujo, can we please stick to the topic.

Leave SA or Die.

The choice is of the members of SA

---

Quote:

---

o and IE-EX LOVE IT when you visit 9rq =-D

---

Originally by: Orc A

---

WE DO!
(just do it ad decent hours, when our guys are online :))

In a rather bit more serious tone -
As someone who lives in the Stain region, i must say, that the way i personally feel towards this whole XB conflict is this:

I like XB, i really do. excellent bunch of fellows, really.
had the honor of fighting alongside them once, and nowdays have the honor of loosing a couple of ships to them here and there.
If u ask me, wether theya re winning or loosing?
hard to say. In the eys of an average Stainer (like me, for example)
they are a passing threat, like BE, SMASH, or any other minor faction who comes to the south to try get a fight.
As much as they may be good at what they do (and i assure you, they are)
I dont see a chance for XB to win this war.
Infact, I'm not even sure why we are fighting it to begin with.

I'm sure that if MASS and XB can figure thier **** out between just the both of them, in a civilized manner, perhaps both sides can find a solution they are "ok" with.

...BUT....

Then again, there's always the fun way of shooting, killing, dying, repeat. :p

/me is still waiting for that frigfleet Cujo primised to being down to Corridor, IEEX starting to run out of targets few times a week :)


Post-Post Desclaimer:
I love everyone and hate no-one, except for those i do and they know that.
Nothing in this post was meant as a flame, I hold all mentioned people and corps at the greatest respect and wish them all of the best.
The Messege is My opinion and it does not reflect the opinions of my corpm8s, my corp, or SA.
Have a nice day. :)

---

Originally by: Koronos

---

/emote goes back to the fight.

---

Originally by: Kozak

---

Our allies do not like SA and are willing to helps us in removing them.

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.

but they are good fighters, and i know they hate me, but i'm not. i'm totally neutral to them.

---

Quote:

---

Those veld sure are tough to kill arnt they

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.

---

Originally by: HC MasiEEE

---

Isn't it over yet

---

Originally by: DeWieKat

---

ive been fighting aside xenobytes, well they deserve every respect in this game. mass? was cool fighting with them against fix, i regret that we are on different sides now, yet i dont give a f*** about trigger and thebold now. god damn choleric teenagers fecked-up the alliance because they were jelous to success of other people... well, the future will show.

---

Originally by: Freeky Frenchy

---

Now get back to mining and replacing XB ships

As for Trigger and thebold Ill think you'll find they are loyal to there friends/allies.

You claim to be a pvp corp so come and have a go , or are you looking for more mercs to fight for you?

---

Originally by: DeWieKat

---

freaky, at least show some courage and add a corp and alliance to your charachter. without it your statements just show up as usual spam.

---

Originally by: Orc A

---

Question for Cujo:

Do you not Consider -V-, to be your friends?
They were the only ones that supported you the whole way and has set SA to -10 because of you.

Just wondering.

---

Originally by: FalloutBoy

---

Freeky Frenchy = Svetlana for all who didn't know

---

Originally by: Shifu

---

Non-English text removed, English only please -Zhuge

---

Quote:

---

Geez you guys need to really get a grip. Especially since a significant part of the population aren't english speaking players

---

Originally by: Cujo

---

Xenobytes have been doing an excellent job and thats just one corp. The fact is Mass has not been doing their job at all, Like always.

---

Originally by: Nick Curso

---

/emote Remembers loosing a good few excelent MASS members after abandoning FA campaign they worked hard on to come to species aid. Maybe weree at war now maybe trhe ways it happend were wrong maybe not but lets appreciate what we did for eachother in the past. Species were also a valuable allie to MASS and i dont think any MASS member will denie it.

---

Originally by: Leyla Anshley

---

Edited by: Leyla Anshley on 18/10/2005 08:13:35

the problem fighting with xenobytes is:
1. they are using long-range ganks.
2. they are using 3 warpstabs minimum on every bs.
3. they are using damphers and jammers on every ship.
4. they are using out-of system exploited safe spot.
5. it's unconfirmed, but seems that SE corps are mining in empire and supplies xenos in 4gq with isks and ships. wise.

but they are good fighters, and i know they hate me, but i'm not. i'm totally neutral to them.

---

Originally by: Minmatar Vengance

---

Edited by: Minmatar Vengance on 18/10/2005 08:36:13
There is NO place, that can not be found, with a scanprobe.

You launch a deepspace scanprobe looking for battleships in a system, and you find it, no mather HOW far it is. You then are within 70 AU, and can start drop your 192 AU probes, and take it from there.

Also, there is NO problem makeing SS's that are 30-40 AU of the end of a system in a hauler. All it takes are a little know-how and some skills.

---

Originally by: Kunming

---

What took most of my attention was the low number of pilots MASS send to the fight against our assault, apparently they couldnt care less about you losing what you spend months building up. I would like to point out to Shifu's Official Announcement and can only advise you not to be a victim of MASS' hunger for power and propaganda anymore.

---

Originally by: PhalHell

---

Read Kunming's reaction, this thread is very actual atm.

---

Originally by: Kantar

---

Originally by: PhalHell

---

Read Kunming's reaction, this thread is very actual atm.

---

I wont even bother to read it.......

Still is this tread still goin....

---

Originally by: Kunming

---

What took most of my attention was the low number of pilots MASS send to the fight against our assault, apparently they couldnt care less about you losing what you spend months building up. I would like to point out to Shifu's Official Announcement and can only advise you not to be a victim of MASS' hunger for power and propaganda anymore.

Remember theBold's monologue in your alliance chat "MASS doesnt need Stain...", ask yourself: Does Stain need MASS?
Make your desicion now, stop being a victim..

---

Originally by: Rod Blaine

---

Originally by: Cujo

---

Edited by: Cujo on 18/10/2005 21:28:51


lol, we dont have any freinds in the South, except for ASCN, Reds and maybe Fix. Other than that you all KOS.

---

That so ?

Afaik we still were leaving SE we run into outside of delve alone. Well, ok.

---

Originally by: Masta Killa

---

What a fun group of bitter and emo induviduals adga and xb have become.

---

Quote:

---

by cujo
lol, we dont have any freinds in the South, except for ASCN, Reds and maybe Fix. Other than that you all KOS

---

Originally by: Ngozi

---

Edited by: Ngozi on 30/10/2005 20:29:22
Edited by: Ngozi on 30/10/2005 20:26:53
Guys stop. We are just playing the game. We dont smack we dont call u names. We just play a nice pvp game.

In game role:
Xb is just keeping a word that we gave to Stain when we joined SE. To be a pvp corp that fights against SE enemies and protects SE territory.

Some grammar edit.

---

Originally by: Nadija

---

while spieces & ADGA went into hiding up north to "rebuild".

---

Originally by: Nadija

---

now Cujo & co are saying they will re take stain... 300 vs 2800

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Edited by: thebold on 31/10/2005 17:55:42
#1) Xenobytes will for ever live in 4gq under the name of SE as Cujo will never destroy SE
#2) No idiots inhabiting a NPC station can truly say they own the area.
#3) XB will not join us as they have no reason to.. Unlimited free ganks in the area around them.. its paridise
#4) XB could learn much more with more support but they choose not to, Fighting at 100km doesnt work i thought our weekend would of taught you i don't do long range...

SE's current status as a entity is weak on the PVP side (Only XB keep this up) but has one of the best diplomats (Cujo) in game in it.. hes the most dedicated person I have known... Just look at the evidence the SE alliance is still going and still trying (but failing to hinder us) thats amazing dedication.

SA has very few vet's compared to new people, if you take a alliance like BOB, they are a alliance with probably 50% vet's that is what makes them so leathel the ability to understand and do a task without questioning creates a faster responding force, compared to SA's response of killing 9 small enemy pos's within 48 hour's being constantly engaged apart from late on Saterday night i would call rather good effort :)

but on another note i think this post should of died, it was resparked when amarr ceo put a link to this thread in bz local on friday night.

(o fyi, no killboard will destroy sa.. thanks)

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Edited by: thebold on 31/10/2005 17:55:42
#1) Xenobytes will for ever live in 4gq under the name of SE as Cujo will never destroy SE
#2) No idiots inhabiting a NPC station can truly say they own the area.
#3) XB will not join us as they have no reason to.. Unlimited free ganks in the area around them.. its paridise
#4) XB could learn much more with more support but they choose not to, Fighting at 100km doesnt work i thought our weekend would of taught you i don't do long range...

SE's current status as a entity is weak on the PVP side (Only XB keep this up) but has one of the best diplomats (Cujo) in game in it.. hes the most dedicated person I have known... Just look at the evidence the SE alliance is still going and still trying (but failing to hinder us) thats amazing dedication.

SA has very few vet's compared to new people, if you take a alliance like BOB, they are a alliance with probably 50% vet's that is what makes them so leathel the ability to understand and do a task without questioning creates a faster responding force, compared to SA's response of killing 9 small enemy pos's within 48 hour's being constantly engaged apart from late on Saterday night i would call rather good effort :)

but on another note i think this post should of died, it was resparked when amarr ceo put a link to this thread in bz local on friday night.

(o fyi, no killboard will destroy sa.. thanks)

---

Originally by: Shifu

---

moderators pls close this topic.

---

Originally by: thebold

---

SE's current status as a entity is weak on the PVP side (Only XB keep this up)

---

Originally by: Gibmundur

---

No matter how many times the ebil se kills me, i shall always come back for more blood

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Pathetic attempt at flaim bait shifu, i try to fight you you just want to run away or fight at over 100km were both sides can just warp out. Dont you remember hanging about with your tempest just trying to kill me make me run away? many times i sat there tanking your fleet as it ran away..., but did you forget we were fighting over your pos's not ours, i didnt see you trying to take on our pos's!

You can not have our conquerable regions. And the people that live there do not want you to have them.

Your angry at me because you expect me to fly all the way up to you and fight you every night. Off course when i did come down to fight you.. your definition of fighting was a safespot huging, we tried scan probes.. no effect the scan probes and your axis of your 16.5au safe means your unscanable...

Super safe spot probes are next to useless as they throw you to far out in the system.

We sat on a station for 15 mins. we sat on the sun for 30 mins, and we sat on a gate for 10 mins to prove my point, you had enough numbers. this is just a example of why i wouldent bother to fight you, a enemy with no skill is not worth the time.

personal note* if you want to fight me so god damed bad why the hell dont you come to me ?!?

im going back to empire now to continue the empire war FUN. enjoy your super safe.

---

Originally by: maGz

---

EDIT: Don't throw burnt child over the lake, when you're living in a pancake house yourself... HA

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Pathetic attempt at flaim bait shifu, i try to fight you you just want to run away or fight at over 100km were both sides can just warp out. Dont you remember hanging about with your tempest just trying to kill me make me run away? many times i sat there tanking your fleet as it ran away..., but did you forget we were fighting over your pos's not ours, i didnt see you trying to take on our pos's!

You can not have our conquerable regions. And the people that live there do not want you to have them.

Your angry at me because you expect me to fly all the way up to you and fight you every night. Off course when i did come down to fight you.. your definition of fighting was a safespot huging, we tried scan probes.. no effect the scan probes and your axis of your 16.5au safe means your unscanable...

Super safe spot probes are next to useless as they throw you to far out in the system.

We sat on a station for 15 mins. we sat on the sun for 30 mins, and we sat on a gate for 10 mins to prove my point, you had enough numbers. this is just a example of why i wouldent bother to fight you, a enemy with no skill is not worth the time.

personal note* if you want to fight me so god damed bad why the hell dont you come to me ?!?

im going back to empire now to continue the empire war FUN. enjoy your super safe.

---

Originally by: Orc A

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Pathetic attempt at flaim bait shifu, i try to fight you you just want to run away or fight at over 100km were both sides can just warp out. Dont you remember hanging about with your tempest just trying to kill me make me run away? many times i sat there tanking your fleet as it ran away..., but did you forget we were fighting over your pos's not ours, i didnt see you trying to take on our pos's!

You can not have our conquerable regions. And the people that live there do not want you to have them.

Your angry at me because you expect me to fly all the way up to you and fight you every night. Off course when i did come down to fight you.. your definition of fighting was a safespot huging, we tried scan probes.. no effect the scan probes and your axis of your 16.5au safe means your unscanable...

Super safe spot probes are next to useless as they throw you to far out in the system.

We sat on a station for 15 mins. we sat on the sun for 30 mins, and we sat on a gate for 10 mins to prove my point, you had enough numbers. this is just a example of why i wouldent bother to fight you, a enemy with no skill is not worth the time.

personal note* if you want to fight me so god damed bad why the hell dont you come to me ?!?

im going back to empire now to continue the empire war FUN. enjoy your super safe.

---

Signed!
Every Word, More precious then Gold.

---

Quote:

---

but did you forget we were fighting over your pos's not ours, i didnt see you trying to take on our pos's!

---

Originally by: Riddlock

---

Well, I looked up at the map today ... guess what i have failed to see any claimed space by SE . So is hard for you guys to defend your pos'es when you dont have a teritory to defend . As far as i know a alliance is based in a teritory , guess you guys fit well in AGIL . Enjoy your stay .

P.S. The only corp that i respect in Agil Empire is XB , that post is not directed to you guys , game on

---

Originally by: Orc A

---

Edited by: Orc A on 01/11/2005 13:53:18
you said:
U got owned Orc A, rofl.
And thebold, shut the **** up

Jesus christ, no one cares about ur smacktalking stupid alliance who cant even defend there own space or kick a corpo out, CF taking ur space, XB roaming at will, IRON doing as they pls, u forget i was part of ur little alliance and belive me ur PVP might is about the same as Xetic, all talk and very little action, all u do is camp chokepoints

yarrrr

I say:
I got owned?
ya, i get owned by XB on a dailly basis, im the scout, the agressor, the first one in. i get killed 5 times a day and damn proud of it. All part of Our Corp's Brick Style fighting.

And as for the claims of smack...
The only 2 entities i Smacktalk towards are G and PA (the 2 chikens who wouldnt dec us), XB knows i hold them at the highest respect. Yes, I disagree with the way they fight, but who am i to dictate to them how to fight?

And, i wouldnt be in such a rush to call someone a smacktalker if im posting a post like yours.

kthnxbye

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

From The Bold:

Quote:

---

but did you forget we were fighting over your pos's not ours, i didnt see you trying to take on our pos's!

---

I think its funny you (sa leaders) still don't get it. We don't care about territory. We just like making SA's life completely miserable. I know a lot of people down there don't like to loose ships / fight, so its hard for them to understand this but: We love to fight and kill. Be it snipe, warp stabs, or any other tactic that accomplishes this goal, we love to disrupt as much SA stuff as possible.

Besides, taking down a POS is boring as hell. I'd much rather go kill someone's little tech I frig than sit at a POS i could care less about for 3 hours.

And remember everyone: If you want to stop getting shot by all the SE, just make a deal with us: Leave SA. You don't have to move out of the area mind you, join us, OR fight SA. Just leave the alliance and let us know. We will work with you. But anyone that follows Mass's leadership will be shot at.

---

Originally by: thebold

---

Edited by: thebold on 31/10/2005 17:55:42
#1) Xenobytes will for ever live in 4gq under the name of SE as Cujo will never destroy SE
#2) No idiots inhabiting a NPC station can truly say they own the area.
#3) XB will not join us as they have no reason to.. Unlimited free ganks in the area around them.. its paridise
#4) [...] Fighting at 100km doesnt work i thought our weekend would of taught you i don't do long range...

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

[SNIP]
And remember everyone: If you want to stop getting shot by all the SE, just make a deal with us: Leave SA. You don't have to move out of the area mind you, join us, OR fight SA. Just leave the alliance and let us know. We will work with you. But anyone that follows Mass's leadership will be shot at.

---

Originally by: Sovereign11

Originally by: Gort

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

[SNIP]
And remember everyone: If you want to stop getting shot by all the SE, just make a deal with us: Leave SA. You don't have to move out of the area mind you, join us, OR fight SA. Just leave the alliance and let us know. We will work with you. But anyone that follows Mass's leadership will be shot at.

---

You might have more luck selling ice cubes in Alaska. Just a thought....

Regards,

---

Originally by: dantes inferno

---

is this thread powered by Duracel batteries..cause it just goes on and on and on and on and on

---

Originally by: maGz

---

Edited by: maGz on 03/11/2005 23:10:59

Originally by: dantes inferno

---

is this thread powered by Duracel batteries..cause it just goes on and on and on and on and on

---

Well there's still a war, and this statement might be worth thinking about for the members of SA

---

Originally by: dalman

---

Originally by: maGz

---

Edited by: maGz on 03/11/2005 23:10:59

Originally by: dantes inferno

---

is this thread powered by Duracel batteries..cause it just goes on and on and on and on and on

---

Well there's still a war, and this statement might be worth thinking about for the members of SA

---

Except it's a Xenobytes statement that others keep trolling?

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

So for whatever reasons, Zitek has left SA (verrified with the war dec panel). That in itself is not particularly shocking. What astounded me is what one of them told me this morning (I've got a real life friend in the corp). They have been in SA less that 18 hours and already one of them was pod killed by an SA member while trying to fly out.

Thats a nice way to treat your former allied corps.

edit: CORRECTION: they had been out of the alliance for less than ONE hour. WTF? That just ticks me off.

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

Edited by: Sovereign1100 on 04/11/2005 14:27:13
Edited by: Sovereign1100 on 04/11/2005 14:11:38
So for whatever reasons, Zitek has left SA (verrified with the war dec panel). That in itself is not particularly shocking. What astounded me is what one of them told me this morning (I've got a real life friend in the corp). They have been in SA less that 18 hours and already one of them was pod killed by an SA member while trying to fly out.

Thats a nice way to treat your former allied corps.

Thoughout this thread, there is flaming, named calling, and the usual nonsense. However, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS GENTLEMEN. Your actions dishonor you further.

As promised, SE will (or already has) adjusted standings to positive since ZTK left SA. For the record, we did this of our own accord adhering to a promise we all made when this war started because ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

edit: CORRECTION: they had been out of the alliance for less than ONE hour. WTF? That just ticks me off.

---

Originally by: Sovereign1100

---

Edited by: Sovereign1100 on 04/11/2005 15:16:04
ZTK has been apart of the SE/SA alliance for months and months. Its not like people wouldn't recognize them. I mean seriously...you DO know who you shoot at before you shoot them don't you? they sure as hell weren't flashing red to them....

---