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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 22:21:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Just making them be required to be present on the battlefield is stupid. They're glass ships that can be popped in 2-3 Tornado volleys.
A damnation can get over 300k buffer... |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 22:46:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Tippia wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:baltec1 wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote: Just making them be required to be present on the battlefield is stupid. They're glass ships that can be popped in 2-3 Tornado volleys.
A damnation can get over 300k buffer... With how many links? The three it's intended to have. Hell, even the wtfawfulineveryway Eos gets 140k EHP. That's the part I don't wholly agree with.
What?
That the Eos is bad or that the command ships get battleship level buffers? |

baltec1
Bat Country
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Posted - 2013.05.19 22:56:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: Nah, dps is irrelevant.
What I'm trying to say is that my paper T3 booster in high-sec will never die even if it needs to be on grid. Meanwhile, players everywhere else would not be given the same advantage.
Requiring on-grid boosting would create a new balancing issue that would shift the risk/reward formula ever more in favor of high-sec.
What are they going to do, make boosting non-corp-members give you a suspect flag?
Oh, ****.
Or they can use a command ship to fill the role of command ship. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 23:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:baltec1 wrote:Or they can use a command ship to fill the role of command ship. GǪwhich, by the way, rather neatly answers the original question: command ships will get their revamp together with T3 so make the CS better at being command ships than the T3s are.
Just one of many nerfs to T3 |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 23:19:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Which is nice and has my support, but I'd still like to know why they're giving null players a crutch like this.
And T3 ships will still likely be viable boosters due to the 50% probe strength sub.
They have the same if not more EHP as the main line of battleships in any fleet so its not much of an issue unless they hit warp rather than align. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 23:35:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:How quick does a single battleship die in a big fleet battle?
Depends on the quality of your logi. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 09:27:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: If incoming damage exceeds your hitpoints in a small time frame, logistics quality doesn't really matter much. I don't do 0.0 stuff anymore, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume that forty or more ships shooting you with 1400mm is going to be an instant death no matter what kind of tank you have on a booster, generally speaking.
We already have command ships in our fleets and they do just fine. If they have the power to alpha a ship with more EHP than most battleships then your fleet has bigger issues to worry about. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 11:14:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Posting to confirm that all successful military forces put their top leaders in shiny vehicles and send them to the front lines during actual combat operations.
General Dannat used to fly to the front line in Afghanistan bumming tabs off squaddies in a chinook to see the lads off.
Prince Harry flew in an Apachi in his second tour of afghan.
Prince Andrew flew a Linx in the Falklands war.
Admiral Sir John Jellicoe was on HMS Iron Duke at the battle of Jutland. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:29:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: Yes, and Alexander the Great bravely charged an elephant despite being so Irish that he literally sweats Guinness.
Look, exceptions to a rule don't invalidate the rule. And the rule here is that you don't put your top military leaders and command and control systems within earshot of the enemy firing line.
Also, since when are British royalty brats the top leaders of anything?
The queen is head of the military...
Also Every single fleet the UK has every sent to war has had its admirals in the fleet on the front line. Every single army has had it command go with it. You cant command these forces in a battle from London. |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 14:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
So you don't have any examples of actual commanding happening in the heart of a battle more recent than...1916?
Rear-Admiral J. 'Sandy' Woodward was in charge of the carrier battlegroup in the Falklands war in 1982. |
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baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 20:59:00 -
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Othran wrote:Also we have dozens of admirals and bugger all ships these days - in fact I think the last time we had less admirals than ships was the 1960s  Gods, well OT again 
We do this every time before a big war starts |

baltec1
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Posted - 2013.05.20 21:40:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: A larger force shooting a smaller force has plenty of time to look at such things. Oh no, wait, they'll just shoot whatever booster ships are on grid first and then the latter will become ever smaller.
Yeah, big fleets is exactly the thing we need more of in this game.
Its the logi that dies first along with tackle, Comand ships tend to die later on in the fight as the DPS trails off. |
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