you all realize that while you're shooting ships with your sentries you're not actually moving, right. So while a phoon is such a great ship with it's drones and missiles and even projectiles, it's actually a ship which sits in 1 place and waits for the rats to stop coming, while the cnr can slowly move on to the next gate.

you all realize that while you're shooting ships with your sentries you're not actually moving, right. So while a phoon is such a great ship with it's drones and missiles and even projectiles, it's actually a ship which sits in 1 place and waits for the rats to stop coming, while the cnr can slowly move on to the next gate. But hey good luck with your little fits :)

I'm baffled by the volume of sentry toting boats I see coming and going in mission hubs then, unless there's more to it .

Poster above me is right - have a few boats for the odd missions that need travel, its fairly standard, I'd have thought.

The Rattler damb well ought to be better; it's a pirate faction ship, and should be two notches better than a navy faction ship.

you all realize that while you're shooting ships with your sentries you're not actually moving, right. So while a phoon is such a great ship with it's drones and missiles and even projectiles, it's actually a ship which sits in 1 place and waits for the rats to stop coming, while the cnr can slowly move on to the next gate. But hey good luck with your little fits :)

Anyone remember when they added falloff to te/tcs? as I can't believe I would have said the mach didn't look all that great!?

you all realize that while you're shooting ships with your sentries you're not actually moving, right. So while a phoon is such a great ship with it's drones and missiles and even projectiles, it's actually a ship which sits in 1 place and waits for the rats to stop coming, while the cnr can slowly move on to the next gate. But hey good luck with your little fits :)

That's cool. When this goes live I'm going to buy one and use these fits, said nobody ever.

The TFI is a great ship, but the overwhelming flaw here is that you're spending about 1.2 billion isk (I am not up to date on CNBCU's right now) on a ship that one guy and his alt can suicide gank and have a very good chance to actually make a profit just off the module drop.

That's cool. When this goes live I'm going to buy one and use these fits, said nobody ever.

The TFI is a great ship, but the overwhelming flaw here is that you're spending about 1.2 billion isk (I am not up to date on CNBCU's right now) on a ship that one guy and his alt can suicide gank and have a very good chance to actually make a profit just off the module drop.

That's cool. When this goes live I'm going to buy one and use these fits, said nobody ever.

The TFI is a great ship, but the overwhelming flaw here is that you're spending about 1.2 billion isk (I am not up to date on CNBCU's right now) on a ship that one guy and his alt can suicide gank and have a very good chance to actually make a profit just off the module drop.

I looked at the similar "problem" yesterday, but about the regular versions, not the navy ones.

Basically the slot layout is about the same, the regular version of the Typhoon just has a free Flare rig built in instead of the turret damage bonus and only max 4 large drones. However, when comparing the regular versions against each other I reached similar conslusion, that the regular Typhoon seems to be slightly better than the regular Raven for the missionrunning with cruise missiles.

My main interest in that comparison was actually how does the new battleships stand against the missionrunning Tengu. Without using drones the gap, in my opinion, is not large enough to make switch to battleship a nobrainer decision. If you use also drones on the battleship hull the difference gets significant enough to justify the switch probably, even if you take into account the increased travel times assosiated with the larger less agile hulls.

My Tengus have 2x Rigor II 1x Hydralic Bay I (and painter) so the "gap is pretty small" is not the on-paper-dps but what I would expect to be applied. Also Tengu is pretty much locked into kin damage type.

Golems are sort of nice, but tiericide has not reached them yet so they lose significantly in speed in those missions with long travel distances between gates.

Okie Dokie, Odysee is here. Has anyone used the OP's fits and how did they work out for missions or null sec ratting/anoms?

Okie Dokie, Odysee is here. Has anyone used the OP's fits and how did they work out for missions or null sec ratting/anoms?

I played with it on Test a week or two ago. The lack of sensor range and drone range was annoying. Managing missiles, drones, and guns was grossy inefficient. On the plus side, OMGWTFBBQ. Gank is tank. I managed to get to 60% armor on Mordus Headhunters due to ignoring the frigates, but it wasn't a big deal. It's pretty amazing how fast lights kill with the DDAs.

Orbiting something helps manage incoming DPS, if you can be bothered.

I would probably go with 4xBCUs, 2x DDAs, 1 CPU, 2TPs, 3 slot tank, and drop one or both of the guns for drone range augmenter thingies. And maybe replace the Gardes with Bouncers against Angels. (Angels may fly in close, but they still spawn pretty far away and they were dying too quickly to get close anyway.)

The 80km(?) sensor range is fairly short and is probably the biggest thing holding the Fleet 'Phoon back for mission running.

Although I will confirm the 'phoon is a worthy phallic object of your sexual desires.

I played with it on Test a week or two ago. The lack of sensor range and drone range was annoying. Managing missiles, drones, and guns was grossy inefficient. On the plus side, OMGWTFBBQ. Gank is tank. I managed to get to 60% armor on Mordus Headhunters due to ignoring the frigates, but it wasn't a big deal. It's pretty amazing how fast lights kill with the DDAs.

Orbiting something helps manage incoming DPS, if you can be bothered.

I would probably go with 4xBCUs, 2x DDAs, 1 CPU, 2TPs, 3 slot tank, and drop one or both of the guns for drone range augmenter thingies. And maybe replace the Gardes with Bouncers against Angels. (Angels may fly in close, but they still spawn pretty far away and they were dying too quickly to get close anyway.)

The 80km(?) sensor range is fairly short and is probably the biggest thing holding the Fleet 'Phoon back for mission running.