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Gaming God
Zero Taxes for everyone
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:07:00 -
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I am playing now for 9 years and i realy need some new level 4 missions . You told us years ago that you made it easier to implement new missions please make it so !!! |

Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:20:00 -
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Both lowsec exploration and wormholes (c3) has solo mission scale encounters, and honestly if you've been around the game for 9 years, you should have the mental and skillpoints toolbox to be able to do either without much in the way of shiploss.
I find the availability of all 3 to be a far better entertainment set than adding further L4s, and there is nothing stopping you going back and doing some L4s on a day when you just have an hour and don't feel like dealing with lowsec.
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Gaming God
Zero Taxes for everyone
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:39:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Both lowsec exploration and wormholes (c3) has solo mission scale encounters, and honestly if you've been around the game for 9 years, you should have the mental and skillpoints toolbox to be able to do either without much in the way of shiploss.
I find the availability of all 3 to be a far better entertainment set than adding further L4s, and there is nothing stopping you going back and doing some L4s on a day when you just have an hour and don't feel like dealing with lowsec.
No thanks :) |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
237
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Posted - 2013.05.22 04:39:00 -
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meh, a few years ago I probably would have agreed with you, but really once you have done the mission a few times all the newness has dried out. You can trust me, I have a monocole |

Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:08:00 -
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No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Manes Avatarr
Adventurers
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:28:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
If you remove L4s from hisec you will remove important part of the game. Do not vote for removing contect you dont use. It maybe attractive for others.
OP has right we need vast impriovement in missions number and ability to... create mission by pilots. Or some randomness put into missions. Random variable generator to twist missions and make them less predictable. ADVENTURERS Corp. | To explore & fight! | https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906996 |

CanI haveyourstuff
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.22 06:36:00 -
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/signed
more PVE content please
also CCP would lose half accounts if they move lvl4-s out of hisec |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:04:00 -
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A rework of the whole mission framework to make it much more dynamic and player involving (I give you a mission) is much better than a few new missions in the current framework. Also to take advantage of the new NPC AI and the "tiericide", perhaps making mission fits a bit more PvP like. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.05.22 08:47:00 -
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Jowen Datloran wrote:A rework of the whole mission framework to make it much more dynamic and player involving (I give you a mission) is much better than a few new missions in the current framework. Also to take advantage of the new NPC AI and the "tiericide", perhaps making mission fits a bit more PvP like. How would player involving missions work? Delivery missions are existing courier contracts, combat missions are current and improved mercenary contracts and mining missions are contracts between corporations for a steady source of mineral resources. Point being the all the actual reasons players would give goals and money to other players are already handled by other existing methods, so I have trouble seeing what this "I give you a mission" thing would in practical terms be. Keep in mind, that CCP doesn't really have interest in making content where there is little to no possibility of player interaction or conflict. |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:48:00 -
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"How would player involving missions work?" That is the big question indeed and the topic for many brainstorm sessions. It is obvious the scope would be beyond existing game mechanics. Perhaps we could tie the price of certain NPC goods with some mission activities, or that I could invest effort/money in specific mission activities which then promotes benefits/penalties for the system I am in.
Perhaps TRIAD has some input on the topic too. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Aston Martin DB5
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.05.22 09:57:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
What brings new players to a game isn't the pvp content but the pve.
If you're looking for more targets to shoot, the answer is simple: bring in new players and create some type of retention level besides their free 30 days.
Yes more missions would be nice but I would like to see some updates and rework done to the current missions.
Also a fix to the gas clouds which has a huge impact on fps. |

Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
221
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Posted - 2013.05.22 10:53:00 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote: What brings new players to a game isn't the pvp content but the pve.
not this game. |

Gaming God
Zero Taxes for everyone
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:04:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
I do trading and transporting and missions I hate lowsec and pvp and i love the relaxing way of playing.
I would stop playing after 9 years if the remove missions from high sec . |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
964
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Posted - 2013.05.22 11:45:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote: What brings new players to a game isn't the pvp content but the pve.
not this game.
Your point of view, personally pvp didn't bring me to this game it's something I fell into because the actual PVE content is so poor.
Lot's of people like to think pvp is the actual endgame but it isn't it's part of it, like pve is.
It's like saying 0.0 is the only thing in eve that you should aim for. It's all a persons perspective, some people only live in 0.0 (e.g me) and other people have no intention into going 0.0 route, both have valid points but one isn;t better than the other as well as people trying to push people into areas they have no intention of going just because people think you should.
If someone is happy doing missions in high-sec let them do it, if you try to force change to that because you think they should be doing something else all that will happen is you will lose another subscriber.
I've spent that much time in 0.0 I actually feel safer there than I do in high-sec now. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Voith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
100
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Posted - 2013.05.22 13:37:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
Says every bad pilot who comes from WoW and doesn't understand "Sandbox".
Your impersonation is dead on.
Bravo. |

Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
134
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:30:00 -
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Can we just turn this into a fix all of PvE thread yet? |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band
668
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Posted - 2013.05.22 18:24:00 -
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Manes Avatarr wrote:Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
If you remove L4s from hisec you will remove important part of the game. Do not vote for removing contect you dont use. It maybe attractive for others. OP has right we need vast impriovement in missions number and ability to... create mission by pilots. Or some randomness put into missions. Random variable generator to twist missions and make them less predictable.
you mean something akin to this or this ?
Anarchy Online had a very decent solo & group mission generator ... Well not at first ... the group missions were bugged for a while and you had to dupe keys for people :D Location, Mission Type, Difficulty etc were all scalable ... and the rewards mostly scaled with the difficulty.
With some proper researching, and balancing considerations, it might make a semi workable post for F&I .. but I don't know how well something like any of the above can integrated into eves current mission writing system. The Devs could tell us though. |

Charlie Jacobson
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Posted - 2013.05.22 22:43:00 -
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Rather than new missions, I'd like to see the current ones revamped to be more dynamic and have more random spawns and layouts, instead of the same predictable ones every time. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
645
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:31:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
And replaced with c3 anomalies.
And level 5's.
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
645
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Posted - 2013.05.23 05:34:00 -
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In all seriousness CCP left the Risk vs reward up to the players. They made it so that you can wardec and bounty them (mission runners). So if people REALLY didn't want others running missions in hisec anymore because they felt the risk:reward ratio was off, they could change it.
Guess it was all a lot of **** talk.
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Pitrolo Orti
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:24:00 -
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Posting in a stealth nerf highsec thread Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.
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Manes Avatarr
Adventurers
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Posted - 2013.05.23 06:53:00 -
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Ppl... dont argue about preferences - everybody will have their own. I cannot say that Eve is game of PVP or PVE or mining etc. Everything is needed and connected. If its thread about L4 revamp or making new content - i think PVPrs should stay away from it becouse its obvious you wont agree on it and would force more pvp content and mechanics instead.
Some big picture required! ADVENTURERS Corp. | To explore & fight! | https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2906996 |

Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Villore Accords
101
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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:57:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:In all seriousness CCP left the Risk vs reward up to the players. They made it so that you can wardec and bounty them (mission runners). So if people REALLY didn't want others running missions in hisec anymore because they felt the risk:reward ratio was off, they could change it.
Guess it was all a lot of **** talk.
No, cuz they all just drop corp and go to an NPC Corp if a wadec happens and continue doing their L4s. The only real way someone can interfere with mission runners is though ganking or ninja-salvaging. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
62
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Posted - 2013.05.24 13:29:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote: What brings new players to a game isn't the pvp content but the pve.
not this game. Your point of view, personally pvp didn't bring me to this game it's something I fell into because the actual PVE content is so poor. Lot's of people like to think pvp is the actual endgame but it isn't it's part of it, like pve is. It's like saying 0.0 is the only thing in eve that you should aim for. It's all a persons perspective, some people only live in 0.0 (e.g me) and other people have no intention into going 0.0 route, both have valid points but one isn;t better than the other as well as people trying to push people into areas they have no intention of going just because people think you should. If someone is happy doing missions in high-sec let them do it, if you try to force change to that because you think they should be doing something else all that will happen is you will lose another subscriber. I've spent that much time in 0.0 I actually feel safer there than I do in high-sec now. that's because you ARE actually safer in null than in high.
my main live in lowsec, and i feel safer in lowsec than in high.
when runing lvl4 in high with my mach, i don't knwo among the bazillons neut in system who is there to try to get me, at least in low, the moment i see a neut, i know that he represent a potential threat, same apply to null
plus i'm -10 so i'm definitely safer in low ^^ |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
975
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Posted - 2013.05.26 20:07:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:Signal11th wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Aston Martin DB5 wrote: What brings new players to a game isn't the pvp content but the pve.
not this game. Your point of view, personally pvp didn't bring me to this game it's something I fell into because the actual PVE content is so poor. Lot's of people like to think pvp is the actual endgame but it isn't it's part of it, like pve is. It's like saying 0.0 is the only thing in eve that you should aim for. It's all a persons perspective, some people only live in 0.0 (e.g me) and other people have no intention into going 0.0 route, both have valid points but one isn;t better than the other as well as people trying to push people into areas they have no intention of going just because people think you should. If someone is happy doing missions in high-sec let them do it, if you try to force change to that because you think they should be doing something else all that will happen is you will lose another subscriber. I've spent that much time in 0.0 I actually feel safer there than I do in high-sec now. that's because you ARE actually safer in null than in high. my main live in lowsec, and i feel safer in lowsec than in high. when runing lvl4 in high with my mach, i don't knwo among the bazillons neut in system who is there to try to get me, at least in low, the moment i see a neut, i know that he represent a potential threat, same apply to null plus i'm -10 so i'm definitely safer in low ^^
Oh I know that already just did not want to say it otherwise the 0.0 brigade pipe up saying its deadly out there God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
75
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Posted - 2013.05.26 22:38:00 -
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I agree, moar missions <3
I'm still doing them when i'm bored. Isk isn't great (even in dual nightmare + noctis), but some of them are fun. |

CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:16:00 -
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bloodknight2 wrote:I agree, moar missions <3
I'm still doing them when i'm bored. Isk isn't great (even in dual nightmare + noctis), but some of them are fun.
True to that, although I find lvl 3s more fun, may be is because I ran them in a cruiser and they become more challenging to those ships. |

Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:59:00 -
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More missions period would be good. I can has blogging skills! |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
29
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:39:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, we don't need more missions. Sane people do something else when they get bored.
What EVE needs is removal of L4s from hisec.
Eh depends.
Im running missions now to raise standings for locators. In terms of ISK generation theyre complete shite. The reward from null is huge. I can understand why pvprs want L4 missioners in low sec but also why L4 missioners dont want a gang dropping in on them as well. No way Id be missioning there, I have but had to spend more time cloaked and not missioning waiting for a bunch of tards then actually doing the missions.
Missioners want non-pvp combat (low risk) and most lowsec gangs want missioners (low risk) so if one is bad so is the other..
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Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:13:00 -
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Randomizing triggers in missions would be all I would ever ask for. Maybe random-spawns aswell...
Ofcourse new missions would be cool too, just don't make the anomalie V 2.0, or new drone-missions (cause they suckkkk ballzzz).
Also - more anti-faction missions! I would like to see another vs Minmatar-mission.. I like to gun them down. |
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