There is literally a sticky thread by a GM in this very forum that says bumping is legitimate and acceptable.

There is literally a sticky thread by a GM in this very forum that says bumping is legitimate and acceptable.

Oh the tears of unfathomable sadness, Mmm... yummy

Oh the tears of unfathomable sadness, Mmm... yummy

60% of the time, you're wrong all the time

4.Unfortunately, my local mining colleagues are an un-communicative bunch at best. I donGÇÖt know if this is a trend. I hope not.

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOST

Hmm... I didn't think it would be possible for my respect for goons to decrease any further. But then they posted!

I am a highsec miner. This is my main source of income in the EvE game. As a miner I make profits and during these activities I incur expenses. This is business at its most basic. I believe that there are a huge percentage of EvE pilots who are able to constantly increase their profit margins by progression in skills, equipment and knowledge. IGÇÖd like to think that IGÇÖm one of them.

I have never (as yet) been killed and/or podded by members of this Order. I have been GÇÿbumpedGÇÖ on odd occasions (if thatGÇÖs what getting out of harmGÇÖs way means). With this in mind, IGÇÖd like to give a little bit of advice to my fellow miners.

1.Above all else remember that EvE is a game. Never, ever expect to be treated fairly. I am constantly amazed at the anger and abuse that is heaped on James 315 and his/her associates (we must remember that in- game characters may be operated by different sex players) by other pilots that have been dealt with by the Order (and others that have not) as they forget this most basic tenet.

2.Glean intelligence. Regularly check the killboards for your local mining area for recent activity. Learn who your local ganker/bumpers are. Put them in your contact watch lists. It is up to you if you wish to widely make this information known. I would recommend not, since you do not wish to antagonize these pilots as they go about their business as it is hard enough for them as it is. When they are online, you take an obvious risk. Find out if they are online at regular periods and if so, mine when they are asleep. No, donGÇÖt mine when youGÇÖre asleep as it can have a deliberating in game effect. This brings me to my next point.

3.Go and do something else. Surely you do more than mining? No? Then you deserved to be ganked. Now may be the time to explore, mission, buy, sell, communicate. CanGÇÖt think of anything? Well, get off-line and do some gardening then.

4.Unfortunately, my local mining colleagues are an un-communicative bunch at best. I donGÇÖt know if this is a trend. I hope not. If James 315 can organize what seems to me, to be an impressive business attracting investor funds and notoriety, then surely a few miners couldnGÇÖt put their heads together to figure out a few ways of at least making life a little more difficult for the activities of this Order? I do not mine afk and I like to increase my mining output by the simple expedient of fleeting and to this end I have concentrated part of my skills to give myself and fellow miners boosts. Since my corporation currently consists of me and my combat missioning buddy we donGÇÖt have much chance to fleet mine. I often ask my local fellow miners if theyGÇÖd like to fleet. ItGÇÖs a friendly gesture, since we both make more ISK and IGÇÖve always paid the communication fee for new contacts. Generally IGÇÖm met with suspicion, stony silence or a few lame excuses. Sure, I understand that my fellow miner may not understand English, or that they may only be online a little while longer GǪ.but JeezGǪno wonder weGÇÖre a hunted bunch.

5.If you really must mine because maybe you are a little crazy after all, then dust off that old mining frigate and create another pilot that really couldnGÇÖt care less if he got his head blown off, go to where the big boys are mining and maybe youGÇÖll see what an exploding Hulk looks like from the gallery.

6.GÇ£As a miner I make profits and during these activities I incur expensesGÇ¥. Now where have I heard that before? If you wish to mine and make great wads of ISK whilst The New Order is operating in your area then you could pay James 315 his GÇÿindulgenceGÇÖ fee of 10 million ISK per annum. LetGÇÖs put this in perspective. If you mine in a barge or exhumer with T2 crystals and good skills, youGÇÖd have to be earning around that in an hour at the very least. This means that one hour of your mining life per year is dedicated to support Mr James 315 and his associates. I guess the jury is out on that one, and I hope that he hasnGÇÖt read down this far and decided to up the ante.

7.When you communicate with The New Order put your tongue firmly in your cheek, do not put your foot in your mouth, never be armed to the teeth, be civil and learn how to use a spellchecker or youGÇÖll end up providing amusing entertainment as Mr Spark2Universe no doubt has.

8.You may have your own opinion on the activities of the New Order and the sheer gall of Mr James 315, but he seems an intelligent, articulate and dedicated sort of a guy wanting to make a profit in this world of New Eden. After all, donGÇÖt we all? And I may yet pay him his indulgence.

obvious propaganda thread

They are un-communicative because they are AFK. They come back every 20 minutes to empty, then return (heaven help me) to the exact same spot, press F1, then go back to playing Minecraft or doing their laundry. The really good ones press F1 and 20 mackinaws all start mining. It.. sickens me. Thank you for bringing this up. I haven't ganked a miner in days. I will fix that today.

Some good stuff there. Unfortuantely, you have wasted your key strokes since, as you already discovered, most of your brethren are not paying attention and think EVE is some sort of "press button, receive ISK" game. I predict you will become frustrated being part of such a community of AFKers and roll a ganking alt at some point.

I would also add:

--- Go to another system where there is no enforcement going on ATM. It doesn't take that long.

--- Tank your boat! If there are two retrievers in a belt and one's tanked and one's just a pinata, guess which one we're hitting.

i just lol at new order.

they are full of rookies, terrible gankers

Their killboard says otherwise, so does the amount of hate mail they receive.