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Xachariah
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:19:00 -
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I¦m actually pretty sad they¦ve changed the industrial-pvp-titan (flying station, perhaps factories and refining as well as a dockable object) into a bigger-dread.
I really hope that there¦s more to come, that they are not telling yet. Otherwise it will just be a bigger ship with bigger guns, which is, tbh, not very innovative.
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Xachariah
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:19:00 -
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I¦m actually pretty sad they¦ve changed the industrial-pvp-titan (flying station, perhaps factories and refining as well as a dockable object) into a bigger-dread.
I really hope that there¦s more to come, that they are not telling yet. Otherwise it will just be a bigger ship with bigger guns, which is, tbh, not very innovative.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:24:00 -
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I am willing to bet the superweapon is going to have a long cooldown period. Not to mention it will waste your team to. Meaning this superweapon is better used as a last ditch option.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:24:00 -
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I am willing to bet the superweapon is going to have a long cooldown period. Not to mention it will waste your team to. Meaning this superweapon is better used as a last ditch option.
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 16:57:02
Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 16:32:02
 Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Captain IceEye
Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 08:59:27
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
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lol, i wonder who the whiner is. You are probably a would be customer of a titan - saw you flying around with something along the lines of "I have 15bil isk..." in your title half a year ago or so - so you wouldnt want to see titans nerfed even before they come into existance.
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Half a year ago my title was "Director of Pantslessness" btw.
If I'm not interested in buying a dread, why would I buy a Titan, and waste a year of training just to fly. Oh yes, because im a really rich griefer who is going to invest in killing your piddly POS when I can just gank your indies, train up more relevant things, buy more unique toys, and pop your pos when it goes offline just like the 19 I helped kill in the last 9 days on TQ..
Drat, musta been your ebil twin I saw flying around with that title then...
Oh, and before having the blast of killing my piddly POS you would first have to buy me one
Anyways, on topic - when reading through the complete thread it seems to me 2 issues are getting mixed up:
a) POSs which are used for resource gathering (with the owners not having them put up for system sovereignity)
b) POSs put up to claim system sovereignity
The b) POSs cause problems atm, cause they are quick to put up but hard to kill. So a superweapon might seem handy...
The a) POSs wouldnt cause any probs if there was a way to disconnect system sov. gain from putting up a POS which is only meant to gather resources. Correct me If i am wrong but isnt this automatically connected (If its the only POS in that system)?
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2005.10.24 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 16:57:02
Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 16:32:02
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Captain IceEye
Edited by: Captain IceEye on 24/10/2005 08:59:27
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
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lol, i wonder who the whiner is. You are probably a would be customer of a titan - saw you flying around with something along the lines of "I have 15bil isk..." in your title half a year ago or so - so you wouldnt want to see titans nerfed even before they come into existance.
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Half a year ago my title was "Director of Pantslessness" btw.
If I'm not interested in buying a dread, why would I buy a Titan, and waste a year of training just to fly. Oh yes, because im a really rich griefer who is going to invest in killing your piddly POS when I can just gank your indies, train up more relevant things, buy more unique toys, and pop your pos when it goes offline just like the 19 I helped kill in the last 9 days on TQ..
Drat, musta been your ebil twin I saw flying around with that title then...
Oh, and before having the blast of killing my piddly POS you would first have to buy me one
Anyways, on topic - when reading through the complete thread it seems to me 2 issues are getting mixed up:
a) POSs which are used for resource gathering (with the owners not having them put up for system sovereignity)
b) POSs put up to claim system sovereignity
The b) POSs cause problems atm, cause they are quick to put up but hard to kill. So a superweapon might seem handy...
The a) POSs wouldnt cause any probs if there was a way to disconnect system sov. gain from putting up a POS which is only meant to gather resources. Correct me If i am wrong but isnt this automatically connected (If its the only POS in that system)?
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Deadzone
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Posted - 2005.10.24 18:50:00 -
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Why are Titans getting a "super weapon" in the first place???
It has been stated for YEARS that Titans were NOT going to be warships. Thats why we got Dreads. Thats why we are going to have Carriers!
Titans have been told to us by CCP for AGES that they were Flag ships. Ships that would be used for mobil manufacturing. Mobil processing and the likes. And now, all of a sudden they will BE warships and have the most powerful weapon in the game?? I mean really, WTF CCP?
Vice-Admiral
Executive Commanding Officer
Military Command
Phoenix Propulsion Laboratories |
Deadzone
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Posted - 2005.10.24 18:50:00 -
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Why are Titans getting a "super weapon" in the first place???
It has been stated for YEARS that Titans were NOT going to be warships. Thats why we got Dreads. Thats why we are going to have Carriers!
Titans have been told to us by CCP for AGES that they were Flag ships. Ships that would be used for mobil manufacturing. Mobil processing and the likes. And now, all of a sudden they will BE warships and have the most powerful weapon in the game?? I mean really, WTF CCP?
Vice-Admiral
Executive Commanding Officer
Military Command
Phoenix Propulsion Laboratories |
Adam C
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:10:00 -
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one phrase "t-minus one-hour until until superweapon activation*"
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:10:00 -
[40]
one phrase "t-minus one-hour until until superweapon activation*"
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Deadzone
Why are Titans getting a "super weapon" in the first place???
It has been stated for YEARS that Titans were NOT going to be warships. Thats why we got Dreads. Thats why we are going to have Carriers!
Titans have been told to us by CCP for AGES that they were Flag ships. Ships that would be used for mobil manufacturing. Mobil processing and the likes. And now, all of a sudden they will BE warships and have the most powerful weapon in the game?? I mean really, WTF CCP?
Titans
"Aside from their blistering armament and many-metres-thick armour..."
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(O.o)
(> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on" |
Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Deadzone
Why are Titans getting a "super weapon" in the first place???
It has been stated for YEARS that Titans were NOT going to be warships. Thats why we got Dreads. Thats why we are going to have Carriers!
Titans have been told to us by CCP for AGES that they were Flag ships. Ships that would be used for mobil manufacturing. Mobil processing and the likes. And now, all of a sudden they will BE warships and have the most powerful weapon in the game?? I mean really, WTF CCP?
Titans
"Aside from their blistering armament and many-metres-thick armour..."
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on" |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:19:00 -
[43]
Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
Ahahahahahahaha.
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:19:00 -
[44]
Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
Ahahahahahahaha.
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:27:00 -
[45]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
Ahahahahahahaha.
WE WANT GIANT POS DESTROYING GUNS NOW!!
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:27:00 -
[46]
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
Ahahahahahahaha.
WE WANT GIANT POS DESTROYING GUNS NOW!!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:29:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Xachariah
I¦m actually pretty sad they¦ve changed the industrial-pvp-titan (flying station, perhaps factories and refining as well as a dockable object) into a bigger-dread.
I really hope that there¦s more to come, that they are not telling yet. Otherwise it will just be a bigger ship with bigger guns, which is, tbh, not very innovative.
Who said they changed them? Titans are a hybrid of every other capital ship, in a much stronger carapace of armor. That means it still gets station services, ability to dock, and functions as a nice forward base in invasions, which is afaik their role.. mobile station. You can be an industrialist and still get giddy over the prospect of owning one. Park in system A, strip it clean of Ark, move to system B. Much nicer than an outpost, no?
In reality, 99% of the time they'll be used as a station and not as a pos pwn platform.. since despite mass delusions, Dreads perform that task relatively well.
Its not innovative to give it guns, but it is innovative to at least try and make it practical. You decide:
POS + Defense + Services + Security = 500mil
Titan + Services + Mobility - Defense = 30-60bil?
Nobody is going to trade in defense for mobility AND pay a huge bill. This way, you're not trading in anything, you're buying that extra bit for exorbitant prices.
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xachariah
I¦m actually pretty sad they¦ve changed the industrial-pvp-titan (flying station, perhaps factories and refining as well as a dockable object) into a bigger-dread.
I really hope that there¦s more to come, that they are not telling yet. Otherwise it will just be a bigger ship with bigger guns, which is, tbh, not very innovative.
Who said they changed them? Titans are a hybrid of every other capital ship, in a much stronger carapace of armor. That means it still gets station services, ability to dock, and functions as a nice forward base in invasions, which is afaik their role.. mobile station. You can be an industrialist and still get giddy over the prospect of owning one. Park in system A, strip it clean of Ark, move to system B. Much nicer than an outpost, no?
In reality, 99% of the time they'll be used as a station and not as a pos pwn platform.. since despite mass delusions, Dreads perform that task relatively well.
Its not innovative to give it guns, but it is innovative to at least try and make it practical. You decide:
POS + Defense + Services + Security = 500mil
Titan + Services + Mobility - Defense = 30-60bil?
Nobody is going to trade in defense for mobility AND pay a huge bill. This way, you're not trading in anything, you're buying that extra bit for exorbitant prices.
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:38:00 -
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I'm thinking that the super weapons sound like an effort to make the TItan feasible as an assault platform.
Meaning that they can bring a fleet in, and deploy it. With the Superweapon existing to give the fleet a chance against the enemy who probably noticed the cyno field.
IMHO I think they should move titans to Kali and move Tier 3 battleships to RMR.
Frankly We have enough super high end only 1% of the playerbase will ever even see it content coming wiht motherships and carriers. We could use more tech one ships.
*snip* That's not very appropriate. - Teblin |
Gierling
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:38:00 -
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I'm thinking that the super weapons sound like an effort to make the TItan feasible as an assault platform.
Meaning that they can bring a fleet in, and deploy it. With the Superweapon existing to give the fleet a chance against the enemy who probably noticed the cyno field.
IMHO I think they should move titans to Kali and move Tier 3 battleships to RMR.
Frankly We have enough super high end only 1% of the playerbase will ever even see it content coming wiht motherships and carriers. We could use more tech one ships.
*snip* That's not very appropriate. - Teblin |
vecdran
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
I just snorted my sprite out my nose. Ow.
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vecdran
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
Oh yeah baby in one year Eve will look like this.
I just snorted my sprite out my nose. Ow.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:45:00 -
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anyone that went to the fanfest wanna comment on whose titan this is?
http://www.gunstar.34sp.com/ff2005/pages/IMG_0315.htm
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.24 19:45:00 -
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anyone that went to the fanfest wanna comment on whose titan this is?
http://www.gunstar.34sp.com/ff2005/pages/IMG_0315.htm
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
anyone that went to the fanfest wanna comment on whose titan this is?
http://www.gunstar.34sp.com/ff2005/pages/IMG_0315.htm
My guess would be Gallente, not rusty enough for matari and its not very amarr like either.
Round edges = Gallente
Just a guess though
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
anyone that went to the fanfest wanna comment on whose titan this is?
http://www.gunstar.34sp.com/ff2005/pages/IMG_0315.htm
My guess would be Gallente, not rusty enough for matari and its not very amarr like either.
Round edges = Gallente
Just a guess though
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:10:00 -
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Looks like minmatar titan
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:10:00 -
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Looks like minmatar titan
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:10:00 -
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Titans are insanly expensive thus should be able to do amazing things if it couldnt kill a large POS i would be dissapointed, so either your saying it should take many many hours (just drawing out the game) or die to large POS just like everything else atm. POS are overpowered small pos especially if you accidently warp to one your bs is instant killed that isnt right considering the pos is somtimes cheaper then the friggin bs.
The fact is it wont be the end of pos since moving a titan around is no easy job and theres nothing to stop a fleet from defending the POS and killing the Titan. There should be ways to counter a Titan pos shouldnt be one of them. Oh and drop the whole greifers and [5] chat its simply annoying a greifer is somone who kills you repeatedly and is willing to chase you great distances to make your life difficult not somone who just kills anything they can find in 0.0.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.10.24 20:10:00 -
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Titans are insanly expensive thus should be able to do amazing things if it couldnt kill a large POS i would be dissapointed, so either your saying it should take many many hours (just drawing out the game) or die to large POS just like everything else atm. POS are overpowered small pos especially if you accidently warp to one your bs is instant killed that isnt right considering the pos is somtimes cheaper then the friggin bs.
The fact is it wont be the end of pos since moving a titan around is no easy job and theres nothing to stop a fleet from defending the POS and killing the Titan. There should be ways to counter a Titan pos shouldnt be one of them. Oh and drop the whole greifers and [5] chat its simply annoying a greifer is somone who kills you repeatedly and is willing to chase you great distances to make your life difficult not somone who just kills anything they can find in 0.0.
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