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Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions 40	Posted - 2011.11.01 15:09:00 - [61] - Quote mavrick1 wrote: well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, and non-run-on sentences, mate: You'd be amazed at how they help your credibility, for cereal! Right, now then: You will have a voice if/when you choose to take the opportunity to use yours in-game, no sooner. SeBo'ed Arty-Pests can gank gankers as they go global just as easily as they can gank mining-ships. CovOps cloake'd Stealth-Bombers arguably even better, as you aren't seen before you choose to strike. Stop whining like little bitches, stop so odiously pulling out your victim-badge, and even more odiously expecting the rest of us to put poor little you on some kind of pedestal of frozen carebear-tears, and use the tools CCP gives you to deal with this, for there are many. NO-ONE is forcing you to do anything, as long as even one of those tools exist. The choice to use them, and the onus to make that choice lies with you--this is how a sandbox is supposed to work. The choice to "sit back and take it?" That is also your choice. STOP. BEING. VICTIMS. I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count?
Lyrrashae Crushed Ambitions 40	Posted - 2011.11.01 15:41:00 - [62] - Quote Sphincter Twoknuckle wrote: Well my fellow miner I am afraid to say we will never have a vioce. Eve has been won and not by us. I have lost almost everything this past month in game, maybe I need to L2P but I dont really care. Actually I like to thank these guys. I have found something new for me. Perpetuum it is called, look it up. It has many the same features as eve but some really interesting anti greifing mechanics as well. Flagged pvp in there high sec areas (dont want to be ganked turn it off and you cannot be attacked) but also the open pvp eve offers in the low sec areas. You can mine in piece with out the risk of lossing your shirt. This is a sandbox you can play as you like as long as its pvp. Anyway this will be my last toon created and I am off to have some FUN elsewhere. Eve is a greifers paradise let them have it. There is nothing left for me. I will be watching to see the subs hit an all time high when EVE: Goonswarm edition drops. Good luck and try and have some fun, thats what games are all about. o/ You can't win EVE. Guess what: I can't either. And despite their hilarious IRL-issue-informed delusions of adequacy/importance, Goonies most definitely can't. No-one can win EVE, it's a sandbox with no explicit end-game, but you know what? That means that despite the fact that no specific entity can win in the classic sense, it does mean that everyone can "win," if they but choose to use the tools available to them in any given situation. Because it's a sandbox. Think about something other than "Oh, poor little victim-me," and instead how you might use the open-ended, available-to-all tools the sandbox gives you, and you too, can "win." I can too. So can everyone else. Yes, even Goonies. Working as intended, that you refuse to expand your mindset beyond "victim-mode" is no-one's fault but your own. Perpetuum is an utter crap game, by the way. Oh, yeah: I can haz ur stuffs? I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count?
Sephiroth CloneIIV Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK 10	Posted - 2011.11.07 04:32:00 - [63] - Quote The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec. Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani. duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Roldanus Black Anvil Industries LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 15	Posted - 2011.11.07 04:35:00 - [64] - Quote Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote: The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec. Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani. duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu Are u on drugs mate?
Sephiroth CloneIIV Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK 10	Posted - 2011.11.07 04:58:00 - [65] - Quote Roldanus wrote: Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote: The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec. Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani. duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu Are u on drugs mate? No but are you https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24691&find=unread Were you shafted rodimus prime for being a minor?
Roldanus Black Anvil Industries LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 15	Posted - 2011.11.07 05:07:00 - [66] - Quote Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote: Roldanus wrote: Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote: The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec. Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani. duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu Are u on drugs mate? No but are you https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24691&find=unread Were you shafted rodimus prime for being a minor? Well, time will tell. Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE, Im on the opposite side. And let me tell u something about we minors or miners, I have seen lately how very experienced PVPs went down for being so cocky like u are.... Fly safe
Roldanus Black Anvil Industries LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 15	Posted - 2011.11.07 05:11:00 - [67] - Quote Lyrrashae wrote: mavrick1 wrote: well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, and non-run-on sentences, mate: You'd be amazed at how they help your credibility, for cereal! Right, now then: You will have a voice if/when you choose to take the opportunity to use yours in-game, no sooner. SeBo'ed Arty-Pests can gank gankers as they go global just as easily as they can gank mining-ships. CovOps cloake'd Stealth-Bombers arguably even better, as you aren't seen before you choose to strike. Stop whining like little bitches, stop so odiously pulling out your victim-badge, and even more odiously expecting the rest of us to put poor little you on some kind of pedestal of frozen carebear-tears, and use the tools CCP gives you to deal with this, for there are many. NO-ONE is forcing you to do anything, as long as even one of those tools exist. The choice to use them, and the onus to make that choice lies with you--this is how a sandbox is supposed to work. The choice to "sit back and take it?" That is also your choice. STOP. BEING. VICTIMS. GO FIND A BETTER TARGET STOP HUNTING IN THE ZOO, THATS EASY
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 273	Posted - 2011.11.07 05:20:00 - [68] - Quote mavrick1 wrote: well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice Ran to support miners in every CSM election since the first one and got elected 1 1/2 times, There were other candidates as well. So you can have a voice if you get enough other miners to elect someone to support your focus. So start supporting and promoting someone for the next CSM that will support you! Issler
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 680	Posted - 2011.11.07 05:58:00 - [69] - Quote Roldanus wrote: Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE We're trying to make life better for the ice asteroids in Gallente space. What is so wrong about that? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Roldanus Black Anvil Industries LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 15	Posted - 2011.11.07 15:34:00 - [70] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Roldanus wrote: Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE We're trying to make life better for the ice asteroids in Gallente space. What is so wrong about that? You are the worst joker ive heard of. You are lke the fat brown bear of muppets... Practice NoobWaffle

Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 130	Posted - 2011.11.07 17:06:00 - [71] - Quote Roldanus wrote: NoobWaffle OH **** SICK BURNS YO DAMN NEED SOME ICE FOR THAT BURN YO DOG HOLLA HOLLA
Kan'loch Lacoud Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 6	Posted - 2011.11.07 17:21:00 - [72] - Quote Princess Cellestia wrote: TEST might be giving you a candidate who not only spent months doing highsec ice and ore mining, but nullsec mining and industry. A candidate who actually knows that mining and industry are not relegated to just one region. That all regions are garbage and need to be buffed. A candidate who thinks 20k ehp on a hulk is goddamn ******. But that's just a maybe. I for one hope TEST nominate someone else and keep your ** posting to the internal forums.
mavrick1 Siskiyou county mining llc 3	Posted - 2011.11.07 20:22:00 - [73] - Quote well i do mine but still i have avoided the gankes so far but really i just seen a few noobs get ranked over the past few weeks
Phyress Serpents of Paradise 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:20:00 - [74] - Quote Killstealing wrote: Roldanus wrote: NoobWaffle OH **** SICK BURNS YO DAMN NEED SOME ICE FOR THAT BURN YO DOG HOLLA HOLLA Clearly, the Swarm's real motivation in protecting the Gallente ice belts is to be sure that they will have enough ice to deal with such hot and clever burns as these.
Revolution Rising Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 17	Posted - 2011.11.11 14:37:00 - [75] - Quote The Mittani wrote: The poor miner will get a voice when the poor miner discovers paragraphs. This. Seriously, if english isn't your forte, then please leave the talking to those of us who can do so succinctly ?
mavrick1 Siskiyou county mining llc 5	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:04:00 - [76] - Quote wow that is a shock i started this one and no one has closed it but the one i do about veterans day get closed really make me wonder some times
Trusty Jutspezic GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 55	Posted - 2011.11.11 22:38:00 - [77] - Quote Roldanus wrote: GO FIND A BETTER TARGET I can't think of a better target for our effort/attention ratio.
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 143	Posted - 2011.11.12 00:15:00 - [78] - Quote womyn power for csm give the miner a voice
Ptraci 3 R Corporation 182	Posted - 2011.11.25 05:32:00 - [79] - Quote mavrick1 wrote: i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks That's your problem right there.
Wolodymyr Mando'a Navy Controlled Chaos 8	Posted - 2011.12.03 17:30:00 - [80] - Quote mavrick1 wrote: WHEN WILL THE POOR MINER GET A VOICE When most of them aren't bots

destiny2 Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing 14	Posted - 2011.12.03 18:04:00 - [81] - Quote Poor miners in highsec. will get a voice. when they grow a sack and quit whineing.
Esunisen Les Tueurs de Killer Une Pour Tous 24	Posted - 2011.12.07 01:44:00 - [82] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Roldanus wrote: Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE We're trying to make life better for the ice asteroids in Gallente space. What is so wrong about that? Mackinaws only clean the ice asteroids so they stay shiny all the time. You goons don't know anything about industry
Retar Aveymone GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2012.02.08 21:21:00 - [83] - Quote when will the poor miner get a voice will it be this year?
rodyas Tie Fighters Inc 260	Posted - 2012.02.08 21:41:00 - [84] - Quote Necroing threads is sad, I highly doubt they will get a voice. Miners like to be themselves which means pisses pvpers off. This all happens on a fair basis so I doubt any voice would help. Signature removed, CCP Phantom
Choc talar Praetorian Mining and Planetary Exploitation 0	Posted - 2012.02.17 07:00:00 - [85] - Quote Miners will get an actual voice when they stop whining! I am a miner and have been for 2 years. I also mission run, and in all that time I have only been ganked once. I never came on forums and whined about it as I see it as a valid Eve play style. I made a mistake. I lost a ship. I moved the hell on and adapted! The whining by many is what causes miners to be ridiculed openly on the forums because they can't seem to accept Eve for exactly what it is and find ways to fit into the existing system. The inherent dangers of Eve are what many of us who mine find exciting and why we still play. Bottom line is learn to protect yourself and pay attention to space around you. The idea that Goons and other's like them are killing Eve is ridiculous since there are other large corps and alliances out there who hold null systems; its not just a game of Goon gank fest! Get over yourselves, make friends, join a bigger corp if needed for protection, and play the game as it stands sans whining!
Mu'ad Diib The Mighty 56	Posted - 2012.02.17 08:19:00 - [86] - Quote Choc talar wrote: ...The inherent dangers of Eve are what many of us who mine find exciting and why we still play. Bottom line is learn to protect yourself and pay attention to space around you ... make friends, join a bigger corp if needed for protection ... I'd tend to agree with Choc talar here. There are ways of handling the Goons and surviving. It's okay to complain, but not in a general way. It is what it is. The ideas mentioned in his post are a good start. On the other hand, if you want to ensure that some members of the CSM support and speak up for miners, (I happen to also do a lot of mining) then you may wish to support an independent candidate like myself. If you do want to do this please like my election post (to get me actually onto the shortlist) and then to vote for me in the election itself. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
asidburn Enaka Alpha Arms and Manufacturing BROTHERHOOD OF DESTRUCTION 0	Posted - 2012.03.08 09:05:00 - [87] - Quote i just want to let everyone know about this scammer claming to be giving plex for votes dont be caught falling for this scam vote aganist darius III member of interstellar eXodus {IE-EX} they are scaming people pass the word on to everyone you can and vote aganist these undeserving jerks here is a copy of the chat log as proof of there unworthy actions!!!!!!!! asidburn Enaka > what do i need to do Darius III > http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 go there Darius III > vote for me then paste the message you got after vote cast into this chat asidburn Enaka > your vote has been registered. We thank you for your participation. Darius III > Thanks man Darius III > that concludes our business Darius III > Fly safe asidburn Enaka > and what about the contract asidburn Enaka > i will have my alliance vote aganist you about 250 people asidburn Enaka > and then where will you be asidburn Enaka > send me the contract and i will have them vote for you asidburn Enaka > this is what we call a test of charecture Darius III > Have them vote against me Darius III > Sorry for the ssam Darius III > But I wouldnt sleep at night if I didnt do everything in my power to make syure that Goons dont ruin this CSM asidburn Enaka > your an idiot all your going to do is send more votes to the goons Darius III > not really Darius III > Goons will win chairman nbo matetr what, doesnt matter Darius III > nothing can stop them Darius III > and thats a real shame asidburn Enaka > well you just lost 243 votes asidburn Enaka > got 1 lost 243 Darius III > Didnt have them anyway Darius III > didnt lose anything Darius III > Just please dont make forum post about me, it would ruin my campaign asidburn Enaka > not to mentone att the isk spam bans you r about to get asidburn Enaka > too late asidburn Enaka > and i just copyed this conv asidburn Enaka > so i can post Darius III > You wouldnt dare do it Darius III > You too lazy anyway Darius III > I dont have a thing to worry about asidburn Enaka > haha i play eve 8 hrs a day and im retired all i have is time Darius III > no lazy bones like you would waste their time. LOL so much for your empty threats LOL rember i dont care who you vote for just dont voter for the
Revolution Rising Gentlemen of Better Ilk 91	Posted - 2012.03.08 10:19:00 - [88] - Quote Miners will get a voice when they start voting for the right candidate and not just vote because someone in their bloc told them to push a button. Indy Mining Guide My EVE YouTube Channel
Issler Dainze Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord 1075	Posted - 2012.03.09 01:35:00 - [89] - Quote Vote for me and I will be the voice of the miners in Eve! I am the only candidate running for the miners of Eve! Don't be fooled by candidates that have come to the party late claiming to support real improvements for the miners of Eve, if it mattered to them they would have put it their early campaign statements and not tried to draft the rising support I've been receiving from the miners of Eve. Miners Unite! Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend! CSM 7 Candidate


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