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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:39:00 -
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The official format and rules of the Alliance Tournament XI have been released. CCP Bro, on behalf of the Tournament Team, has brought you a fancy blog full of numbers and fun facts to get you all acquainted with the way the AT XI will run once it kicks off mid-July. There are a number of changes to the rules both from the previous Alliance Tournament and the New Eden Open so we advise you guys to scan it thoroughly.
Go here to read it.
Any questions you may have for the Tournament Team regarding this blog will be answered here. I hope you will all join us in excitement for this years' Alliance Tournament, because it is going to be a blast! CCP Gargant | Community Representative | EVE Illuminati |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6150

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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:41:00 -
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First! Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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CCP BunnyVirus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:46:00 -
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:48:00 -
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THIS IS GOING TO BE AWESOME! :D Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Chitsa Jason
Infinity Explorers Exhale.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:50:00 -
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I am so hoping to make it in this year :) CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
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Nicen Jehr
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:58:00 -
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Quote:The finals will be a best of five series, with the team entering from the winners bracket starting one win up. Could you explain further? Does the double elimination format split the 64 teams into a 32 team winners bracket and a 32 team losers bracket? Does this mean that, in the final match, the team from the losers bracket can win 3 bouts of 5, and still only tie with the team from the winners bracket 3-3?
Also tidi and explicit legality of Gnosis should make matches especially interesting :D Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6150

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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:02:00 -
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Nicen Jehr wrote:Quote:The finals will be a best of five series, with the team entering from the winners bracket starting one win up. Could you explain further? Does the double elimination split the 64 teams into a 32 player winners bracket and a 32 players losers bracket? Does this mean that, in the final match, the team from the losers bracket can win 3 bouts of 5, and still tie with the team from the winners bracket 3-3? Also tidi and explicit legality of Gnosis should make matches especially interesting :D
Not really. People drop to the losers bracket whenever they lose their first match, so the population of each side of the brakcet is constantly changing. The finals are essentially a best of 5 but with the first match already magically played with the team from the winners bracket up one.
This might help clarify: http://www.erasabletournamentbrackets.com/pdf/double-seeded-64-team.pdf Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Nicen Jehr
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:03:00 -
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Assuming there are 64 players and no draws... wouldn't exactly 32 teams lose their first match and move to the losers' bracket, after the first 32 matches were complete? Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |

Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:04:00 -
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This is going to be epic :O BALEX is recruiting -----> tinyurl.com/oscmmlv |

Laura Dexx
Fractional Warfare
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:05:00 -
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Are you going to make up any additional rules after the final is played? CCP is pretty good at that! |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6150

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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:07:00 -
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Nicen Jehr wrote:Assuming there are 64 players and no draws... wouldn't exactly 32 teams lose their first match and move to the losers' bracket, after the first 32 matches were complete?
Yes, but then in each subsequent stage half of the members of the winners bracket move to the losers bracket to partially replace the people getting knocked out of the losers bracket. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:09:00 -
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"Time dilation will be used to progressively speed up the solar system".
Damn, that's going to be interesting to see. Reverse TIDI. |

Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:09:00 -
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So no Mindlinks? Can you confirm that? Shadoo > whoever was the first nyx on grid Shadoo > THANK GOD YOU ARE A SMART MAN and fitted the best tank in PL Shadoo > (ie. cyno) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:17:00 -
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peeew peewwwww
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Nicen Jehr
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:25:00 -
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The PDF explains the format well, I suggest adding the link to the devblog, because I and probably others weren't familiar with a double elimination format.
I think you shouldn't give the winners' bracket champion the extra point in the final round.
Team A loses their first match, Team B wins their first match. Both teams win every successive match in their respective brackets; B is now the Winners Champion and A is the Losers Champion. B is 6-0; A is 10-1.
Now the best-of-five final begins, here are the possible scores after this match: [code] Possible final match scores A vs B 5....1 4....2 3....3 2....4 1....5 0....6 [/code] So A must win four or five out of five games in the final match to win the tournament. If A wins, A is 11-1 vs B's 6-1. If B wins, A is 10-2 vs B's 7-0.
I don't like gimping A, because IMO the whole point of double elimination is to give ppl a second chance. If A makes it through the whole losers bracket without a loss, they deserve to challenge the winner on fair ground.
EDIT: reading more carefully: there are only four rounds played in 'the best of five final' [code] A vs B 4....1 3....2 2....3 1....4 0....5 [/code]
Chribba wrote:peeew peewwwww psst they're shooting players not rocks! Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:27:00 -
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Wait wait wait wait. I don't even remember seeing this May 15th thing posted. Seems idiocy to post a join date before you even post the announcement of the tourney and rules and so forth. If that stands we do not have a legit team and I will be VERY disappointed. |

Laura Dexx
Fractional Warfare
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:29:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Wait wait wait wait. I don't even remember seeing this May 15th thing posted. Seems idiocy to post a join date before you even post the announcement of the tourney and rules and so forth. If that stands we do not have a legit team and I will be VERY disappointed.
sux 2 b u
(this team padding **** is exactly what they were trying to counter) |

Fr0stle
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:30:00 -
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Forlorn Wongraven wrote:So no Mindlinks? Can you confirm that? I'd like to see this clarified too please. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6150

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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:31:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Wait wait wait wait. I don't even remember seeing this May 15th thing posted. Seems idiocy to post a join date before you even post the announcement of the tourney and rules and so forth. If that stands we do not have a legit team and I will be VERY disappointed.
We announced it on May 15th in another dev blog. A lot of people have been discussing that rule change in the comments thread for that dev blog, the main response I posted there was:
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys. The early cutoff was put in place because we intend the Alliance Tournament to be about people representing their alliances, whatever that alliance may be, instead of the kind of club-team system you see with the NEO or SCL (which help fill that need very well).
In cases where a corp or member are caught by surprise outside of *their* alliance for one reason or another, we can make exceptions to get them back in. What we don't want is people jumping from one alliance to another just for the tournament.
Look at it this way: that Alliance Tournament is essentially the Olympic Games of EVE. People can move from one country to another, but it's intended that you represent the country that you claim as your own the whole year round.
If you have a request for an exception, send a petition to the community queue and we'll take a look. But if you're trying to move from your home alliance to another one just for the tournament, I don't expect we'll grant those requests. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:31:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Wait wait wait wait. I don't even remember seeing this May 15th thing posted. Seems idiocy to post a join date before you even post the announcement of the tourney and rules and so forth. If that stands we do not have a legit team and I will be VERY disappointed.
This Devblog covered that:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/alliance-tournament-xi-announced/
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Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:31:00 -
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Laura Dexx wrote:Kumq uat wrote:Wait wait wait wait. I don't even remember seeing this May 15th thing posted. Seems idiocy to post a join date before you even post the announcement of the tourney and rules and so forth. If that stands we do not have a legit team and I will be VERY disappointed. sux 2 b u (this team padding **** is exactly what they were trying to counter)
We have a long history of running in the AT, we are just generally scattered to the wind until then. I found the announcement, under a blog post that looked like it was a call for commentators so I didn't even look at it. FML. I will not be happy if our team has to miss the tourney and not bring back the blaster Moa
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Wey'oun
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:36:00 -
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May i ask why the stricter rules on implants this year? sad panda :(
Also can we plz have a DEV team entered? :P we need more drama and conspiracy theorys when the DEV team beats a player one |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
139
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:41:00 -
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I mean, we can run with the people we have on board right now but we will be missing a couple of key people and won't be able to field a full setup. I mean the way that blog was worded was terribad. Made it look like it was just about commentator stuff. We can adapt if we have to but we won't be able to give it our all. |

Hecater
Scullthrone
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:41:00 -
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Quote:May i ask why the stricter rules on implants this year? sad panda :(
maybe ccp wanted to give a chance to poor alliances, but done it in :ccp: way. instead of moving AT to test server, where you can show just your skill, not your wallet - they hit expensive gear (and screwing the fitting of many ships without PG 6%) |

Green Gambit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:42:00 -
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Quote:Fights are limited to 10 minutes. If a fight reaches time, it will be stopped and whichever team has the higher total points value will be declared winner. See "Victory Conditions", below.
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Quote: During a match, a team scores points for each enemy ship it kills, equal to the tournament points value of that ship. The team that has scored the most points at the conclusion of the match, or that destroys the entire opposing team, is the winner.
If a team chooses to field less than 100 points, non-fielded points count towards the opponent's score.
If a fight is tied after 10 minutes, time dilation will be used to progressively speed up the tournament solar system and encourage a prompt end to the match.
In the very unlikely case that a fight is tied after 15 minutes, the victory will be awarded to the team that had more collective potential team DPS at the beginning of the match, as measured by the tournament automated GÇ£attack barGÇ¥.
are not completely clear.
The first paragraph says fights are stopped after ten minutes. Whilst the second part talks about ties without stating what you define as a tie. eg ships still on the field = still tied?
Can I suggest dropping the first paragraph I quoted and re-wording Victory Conditions something more like:
Quote: Fights run for up to 10 minutes of normal time, followed by up to 5 minutes of overtime. During overtime, time dilation will be used to progressively speed up the tournament solar system and encourage a prompt end to the match.
During a match, a team scores points for each enemy ship it kills, equal to the tournament points value of that ship. If a team chooses to field less than 100 points, non-fielded points will be added to the opponent's score at the start of the match.
Destroying the entire opposing team is an immediate win.
If there is no clear winner at the end of normal time, the team that has scored the most points will be declared winner. If points are tied, the match will continue non-stop into overtime.
In the very unlikely case that a fight is tied after overtime, the victory will be awarded to the team that had more collective potential team DPS at the beginning of the match, as measured by the tournament automated GÇ£attack barGÇ¥.
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Ophelia Aivoras
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:46:00 -
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Hecater wrote:instead of moving AT to test server, where you can show just your skill, not your wallet
Then there will be no fun seeing limited edition ships explode, big deal!!! |

Professor Clio
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:48:00 -
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The rich alliances can still lose 60B isk flagships :D |

Antoine Jordan
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:49:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:I mean, we can run with the people we have on board right now but we will be missing a couple of key people and won't be able to field a full setup. I mean the way that blog was worded was terribad. Made it look like it was just about commentator stuff. We can adapt if we have to but we won't be able to give it our all. Your lack of awareness combined with the astonishing amount of whinging from Tyrrax last topic only serves to reinforce the notion that your "tightly-knit" team is actually just one of convenience. There are still outlets for teams like that: the SCL, as well as the NEO if CCP choose to run that again. |

Green Gambit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:50:00 -
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Oh another one. Will the fights be posted promptly to YouTube?
Personally I have problems with the Twitch TV live streams, and using their service for catch-up is fairly awful. The delays getting the Fanfest stuff up on YouTube meant that I've not seen a lot of the stuff I was interested in, and it's now getting to the stage where I can't really be bothered.
If I recall correctly you had the fights up on YouTube within 24 hours last year - woud be nice to see this level of service again. |

Serum
K-Tech Innovations
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:52:00 -
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talking to space nerds about sports brackets... and them not understanding... seems about correct. |
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