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Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 8038	Posted - 2013.05.30 02:54:00 - [61] - Quote honestly they'd evac even before tallpos.jpg is posted Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Daedlus Caine Fallen Supremacy 8	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:18:00 - [62] - Quote Good god, what happened to my thread? Well, since we're all here... I'm going to love seeing goons scramble to find new moon goo after Odyessy hits. What shall ensue? We can only wait. Goonies, try not to break each others skulls in. It kills your brain cells.
Robus Muvila GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 315	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:20:00 - [63] - Quote Daedlus Caine wrote: Good god, what happened to my thread? Well, since we're all here... I'm going to love seeing goons scramble to find new moon goo after Odyessy hits. What shall ensue? We can only wait. Goonies, try not to break each others skulls in. It kills your brain cells. We've long since rotted our brains with subpar alcoholic slop. Have you ever heard DBRB scream on a video? We're all that drunk ALL THE TIME. TMC Senior Developer http://themittani.com - Because EvE has needed a proper news site for ages
Daedlus Caine Fallen Supremacy 8	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:23:00 - [64] - Quote Robus Muvila wrote: We've long since rotted our brains with subpar alcoholic slop. Have you ever heard DBRB scream on a video? We're all that drunk ALL THE TIME. That seems to be everyone in EVE.
Jonah Gravenstein Khalkotauroi Defence Labs 9030	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:43:00 - [65] - Quote Goons... where to start. Goons were to be feared when I first started playing, they'd just dismantled BoB and were busy rampaging across nullsec. If they ever came up in conversation with corpies the general consensus was Goons are evil, avoid at all costs. Over the time I've been playing I came to realise that while Goons are seen as pure evil by the majority of people, they are in fact good for the game, they bring newbies into Eve, they produce all sorts of amusing and satirical propaganda and stage massive ingame events, some of which make for real world mainstream press, by mainstream I mean outside of the gaming press. Up until late last year I'd never personally dealt with GSF members, I've spent the last 6 or 7 months chatting with some of their members who frequent a chat channel for people with a shared interest. On the whole the guys I have spoken to are playing Eve to have fun, their definition of fun may be different from other peoples, but fun is why we game. They're knowledgeable about Eve, and devious in the way that they play it, and they're prepared to share their "expertise" with a random highsec pubbie like myself so that I can enhance the way that I play. I eat your hatred for breakfast, then wash it down with your tears.
Daedlus Caine Fallen Supremacy 8	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:47:00 - [66] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: -snip That was oddly beautiful. Well said. o7
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 989	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:53:00 - [67] - Quote We're all Goons now.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 287	Posted - 2013.05.30 03:57:00 - [68] - Quote Came here to read the question and give a neutral unbiased response about goons. Found Goon line grunts threatening to burn provi. Well done EVE-O, you caught me off guard there.
Ripblade Falconpunch State War Academy Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:05:00 - [69] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: Came here to read the question and give a neutral unbiased response about goons. Found Goon line grunts threatening to burn provi. Well done EVE-O, you caught me off guard there. Andski isn't exactly a "line grunt"..... Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' " .... or something? You pay a subscription fee to post here. F'ing elitists.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 287	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:14:00 - [70] - Quote Ripblade Falconpunch wrote: Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' " Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me! But yeah, stop badposting.
Kamden Line Eve Defence Force Tribal Band 161	Posted - 2013.05.30 04:52:00 - [71] - Quote KuroVolt wrote: Ripblade Falconpunch wrote: Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' " Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me! But yeah, stop badposting. It must be hard to be so irrelevant that you have to post to G-D to get someone to acknowledge you. To the rest of Nulsec, Providence and CVA are something of a running joke, ignored largely because Providence is literally the worst region in the game, outstripping even Syndicate for lack of good moons, good PVPers, and worst of all, good posters. Indeed, Providence truly is the only place in the game aside from high sec where I can follow around a fleet with a neutral alt and not get blown up.
RubyPorto Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 3441	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:00:00 - [72] - Quote Robus Muvila wrote: Your opinion is shared my a healthy majority of the space proletariate, usually through ignorance, defeat, opposition, bile or heresay and thats fine. You are more than free to sit in your ship, gripping your knees and crowing "GOOOOOOOOOOOONS" to your hearts content. But speculating on money is one step short of falling into the REAL tinfoil end of the spectrum where all Null powerblocs are just RMT cartels and we're all jetting round in RL corvettes bought with ill gotten ISK or whatever it is that month. And that's just not healthy. To be fair, that last bit is pretty much actually true... on the Serenity server... This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon
dark heartt I Own Four Sheep Nyratic 322	Posted - 2013.05.30 05:59:00 - [73] - Quote As someone who has had no dealings with Goonswarm beyond flying through their space a couple of times with RvB and on my own, and someone within the alliance (not the actual Goon corp) attempting to recruitment scam me (that was a lot of fun seeing how they do it), I like the swarm. They all seem to have fun playing the game. They play the game their way and don't let what anyone else says get in the way of that. I did a flight from north to south in 0.0 and the only people who had a conversation with me were Goons, and despite the fact they were hunting me trying to kill me, they still wished me luck. Like any large organisation I'm sure there are some bad guys in there who genuinely act like assholes in real life, but most them seem realise this is just a game and don't take it overly seriously. The people who think there is some sort of ~GOON CONSPIRACY~ are either trolling or really need to take off the tinfoil. No there is no plot to take over the entire game with someone from Goonswarm inside CCP - Where would the fun go if there was no targets to fight, scam or rob? The people who hate Goons simply because the others around them hate Goons, who in turn hate them because they were taught to hate them really need to take a step back and make decisions for themselves. As far as I am concerned they also bring more to the game than they take away. They provide content, conflict and an almost never ending source of good Eve stories. They bring new players from the SA forums and it wouldn't surprise me if most of those new players stay in the game for a good long while. And to the people who are still bringing up TheMittani's mistake at FF... think to yourself: if that was the leader of any other major alliance, would I care as much? Or is it because it was Mittens who said it that I continue to hold onto it? If the answer to the first question is yes, then continue holding on it, if not then just let the damn thing go already. The guy has apologised, The Wis has accepted and holds no grudge, its over. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec.
dark heartt I Own Four Sheep Nyratic 322	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:01:00 - [74] - Quote Kult Altol wrote: Anything on Mitannil is garbage. Got some proof? Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec.
Vince Snetterton 279	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:30:00 - [75] - Quote Goons... Imagine a social construct that attracts the worst that humanity has to offer. The pool (or cesspool) that the goon's draw from runs the gamut from the equivalent of the taliban, to goldman sachs' VP's, to the koch rrothers, to reality show producers. The people that enjoy the style of play that goons espouse is one that the sociopaths and psychopaths of the world aspire to. That is what the culture of the goons is all about. Don't get me wrong. Their leadership is far from stupid. In fact, they are quite intelligent. It is simply that they are evil. But overall, the kind of people that enjoy the goons' playstyle are the same ones that enjoy hurting other people in real life, and believe that their ability to hurt other people is their right, if they can pull it off. Oh, and gloating about it makes it all the more enjoyable. Their motto says it all. " we don't want to ruin THE game, just YOUR game."
Sentamon 964	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:36:00 - [76] - Quote dark heartt wrote: Kult Altol wrote: Anything on Mitannil is garbage. Got some proof? Asking for proof of an opinion. You win the thread. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Fey Ivory Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:40:00 - [77] - Quote Eve is a sandbox, cant really say their wrong or right, personally i think to many get to upset about what they think is wrong, but to sort of balance the equation, we need abit of everything in this game, and thats the beuty of eve... As long as things are kept within of the games rules, and people can keep the balance and understand whats pixels in a game, and not to let it spill ower into real life ! Its like the saga star wars, take away the empire, and it be a kinda dull saga ;P
dark heartt I Own Four Sheep Nyratic 322	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:41:00 - [78] - Quote Vince Snetterton wrote: Goons... Imagine a social construct that attracts the worst that humanity has to offer. The pool (or cesspool) that the goon's draw from runs the gamut from the equivalent of the taliban, to goldman sachs' VP's, to the koch rrothers, to reality show producers. The people that enjoy the style of play that goons espouse is one that the sociopaths and psychopaths of the world aspire to. That is what the culture of the goons is all about. Don't get me wrong. Their leadership is far from stupid. In fact, they are quite intelligent. It is simply that they are evil. But overall, the kind of people that enjoy the goons' playstyle are the same ones that enjoy hurting other people in real life, and believe that their ability to hurt other people is their right, if they can pull it off. Oh, and gloating about it makes it all the more enjoyable. Their motto says it all. " we don't want to ruin THE game, just YOUR game." I'm sorry what? The people that enjoy the Goon's playstyle are the same ones who like hurting people in real life? Seriously? So if in game I like PVP, scamming and ganking, I'm suddenly someone who wants to go and hurt someone in real life? The fact is that you clearly don't understand that people can act a certain way in a game, and no be like that in real life. I enjoy killing the hookers in GTA, but that doesn't mean I think murder is fine. I think scamming and corp theft in Eve is fine, but that doesn't mean that I think stealing in real life is acceptable. Just because I think something in a game is totally fine doesn't mean suddenly that I am mentally unstable or totally insane. That's the sort of argument that people who rally against video games use to describe all of us who play video games. And "they are evil," like you now want to compare them to someone like Osama Bin Laden or ******. They aren't evil, they simply play the game in a certain way. Your not agreeing with it certainly doesn't make them evil. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec.
dark heartt I Own Four Sheep Nyratic 322	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:43:00 - [79] - Quote Sentamon wrote: dark heartt wrote: Kult Altol wrote: Anything on Mitannil is garbage. Got some proof? Asking for proof of an opinion. You win the thread. Something like a bad article is completely provable. But thanks for declaring me victor :D. Bienator II: "You can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose." I play in highsec.
Skydell Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums 530	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:45:00 - [80] - Quote Kamden Line wrote: KuroVolt wrote: Ripblade Falconpunch wrote: Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' " Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me! But yeah, stop badposting. It must be hard to be so irrelevant that you have to post to G-D to get someone to acknowledge you. To the rest of Nulsec, Providence and CVA are something of a running joke, ignored largely because Providence is literally the worst region in the game, outstripping even Syndicate for lack of good moons, good PVPers, and worst of all, good posters. Indeed, Providence truly is the only place in the game aside from high sec where I can follow around a fleet with a neutral alt and not get blown up. While for different reasons, it's one thing CVA and Goons share. Everyone loves to hate on them and for no personal reason.
Darth Kilth Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans 96	Posted - 2013.05.30 06:55:00 - [81] - Quote Most Hi-sec players only know Goons for their hi-sec activities, gangking mining boats and freighters and blowing up Jita once in a while. It's not that special, plenty of other alliances and corps have people blowing ** up in Hi-sec but the Goons are the most obvious with it as they got the entire Burn Jita event and the Hulkageddon meaning that most people will learn about the goons trough those ways first. A lot of people doing research on the goons will quickly stumble on the SA forums and will often and wrongly come to the conclusion it's a /b/ behind a pay barrier.... So people quickly get the idea that the Goons are both elitist and enjoy blowing up defence less space ships, which explains why lots of people hate them. Combine that with the entire Blue doughnut ** that goes around and people always hearing that Goonswarm killed BoB ages back, not to mention Goons scamming idiots once in a while (not more then other aliances) and people will think Goons are hypocrites and scammers/liars/thief's. In reality they are not unlike most other alliances and got the same mix of people you find in other alliances, some hate for them might be justified but most other stuff is way overblown. Not that the goons care tough, hating them on the forum just mean you're giving them attention.
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 35	Posted - 2013.05.30 07:06:00 - [82] - Quote I read a few something aweful posts. Thats all it took.
Daedlus Caine Fallen Supremacy 8	Posted - 2013.05.30 07:55:00 - [83] - Quote Darth Kilth wrote: it's a /b/ behind a pay barrier.... Nothing but /b/ can relate to /b/ man. Nothing.
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1238	Posted - 2013.05.30 08:03:00 - [84] - Quote The Goons, as with many power groups in the history of Eve, rapidly becoming a fading force in the game, but very active on the forums. This is not a signature.
Danni stark 426	Posted - 2013.05.30 08:09:00 - [85] - Quote love them or hate them. they create content. every one likes content. Ice Mining Skill Plan.
voetius L V B Industries STELLAR CONSTELLATION 40	Posted - 2013.05.30 08:53:00 - [86] - Quote for me a better question would be : Why do people have such strong opinions about other groups ? In this case other groups of players, or groups of people that have a different playstyle. But that is rather a broad question :)
Josef Djugashvilis Acme Mining Corporation 1238	Posted - 2013.05.30 09:59:00 - [87] - Quote Danni stark wrote: love them or hate them. they create content. every one likes content. You missed out the word, 'did' The Goon planned and executed Ice Interdiction, was the single best player created event in my time in Eve. It was original, fun and had a purpose which affected the Eve universe. Burn Jita was just an attention seeking exercise in futility, with no real effect on the Eve universe. Just lots of folk sacrificing their ships to Concord. To repeat Burn Jita is evidence that the folk in the goons who can and did come up with great gameplay seem to have run out of ideas. Shame really. This is not a signature.
Capt Tenguru10 State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.05.30 10:16:00 - [88] - Quote well consider that i was trying to join a corp, and a "recruiter" dropped by to offer me a spot. well needless to say he tried to scam me. one with moving my ships. two with security deposit. when i gave him links to something aweful and showed him web pages exposing the scam. he assured me that was in the past and goons are now trustworthy. sadly this isnt the case and i didnt get taken for anything. lesson here they are still scamming and ripping off people, who just want to have fun and play a game.
Harry Forever SpaceJunkys 58	Posted - 2013.05.30 11:38:00 - [89] - Quote goons are people who have fun at the beginning and cry at the end OMG! the asteroid is depleted!
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1508	Posted - 2013.05.30 11:46:00 - [90] - Quote Its common for people to hate those at the top, or hate the bigger groups. Goons also have the inert ability to **** off(troll) anyone who isn't a goon. Which doesn't help their likability. To be fair however many goons hate other goons just as much. Its a very odd organization. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Idea for Improving NPE.

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