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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:07:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Goons...
Imagine a social construct that attracts the worst that humanity has to offer. The pool (or cesspool) that the goon's draw from runs the gamut from the equivalent of the taliban, to goldman sachs' VP's, to the koch rrothers, to reality show producers.
The people that enjoy the style of play that goons espouse is one that the sociopaths and psychopaths of the world aspire to. That is what the culture of the goons is all about.
Don't get me wrong. Their leadership is far from stupid. In fact, they are quite intelligent. It is simply that they are evil.
But overall, the kind of people that enjoy the goons' playstyle are the same ones that enjoy hurting other people in real life, and believe that their ability to hurt other people is their right, if they can pull it off. Oh, and gloating about it makes it all the more enjoyable.
Their motto says it all. " we don't want to ruin THE game, just YOUR game."
I'm willing to assume you kill hundreds of millions of innocent NPCs that crew the red crosses you destroy.
You evil, sadistic, heartless murderer.
Throw him in a padded room and lock away the key, this man is clearly a psychopath for his actions in a game. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
58
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:14:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Goons...
Imagine a social construct that attracts the worst that humanity has to offer. The pool (or cesspool) that the goon's draw from runs the gamut from the equivalent of the taliban, to goldman sachs' VP's, to the koch rrothers, to reality show producers.
The people that enjoy the style of play that goons espouse is one that the sociopaths and psychopaths of the world aspire to. That is what the culture of the goons is all about.
Don't get me wrong. Their leadership is far from stupid. In fact, they are quite intelligent. It is simply that they are evil.
But overall, the kind of people that enjoy the goons' playstyle are the same ones that enjoy hurting other people in real life, and believe that their ability to hurt other people is their right, if they can pull it off. Oh, and gloating about it makes it all the more enjoyable.
Their motto says it all. " we don't want to ruin THE game, just YOUR game." I'm willing to assume you kill hundreds of millions of innocent NPCs that crew the red crosses you destroy. You evil, sadistic, heartless murderer.Throw him in a padded room and lock away the key, this man is clearly a psychopath for his actions in a game.
the difference is made by actions against the living OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |
John Ratcliffe
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:25:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:However, they are astonishingly poor winners who pay $10 to belong to the "winning" team. Their main tactic is to make other players so miserable that they leave the game. Their "leader" advocated driving other players to suicide. google Mittani art of war for more on that philosophy.
They do have a cool logo though...
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1233
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:26:00 -
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Daedlus Caine wrote:First of all, I'm not sure if this belongs in the general or the alliance/corp dicussions. vov I'll risk it anyway
As I have been playing actively for about a year or two now, I've been trying to figure out why I have this mental alignment to hate the Goons. Maybe it's their popularity, maybe the fact fedoras died in the 70's, or if Mister Shadoo of PL's face makes me laugh more. So I ask of any member of the Goonswarm that passes by, what's your game? I have a difficult time thinking you're pirates. It's not the usual MO of the sociopaths of low-sec. I want to hear a Goon's thought of what they are and their alignments to the EVE universe are. Let's face it though, I'll probably only get a snark comment.
Thanks for reading!
there is nothing to understand , they become part of the lore like it or not just like the neadentalers from the last iceage
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
31
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:34:00 -
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pussnheels wrote: there is nothing to understand , they become part of the lore like it or not just like the neadentalers from the last iceage
I dont know what is making my dead babies cry more, your poor use of english, or your terrible inability to create a functioning simile.
"You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
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Mulani Askiras
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:39:00 -
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Andski wrote:Mulani Askiras wrote:Goons aren't going to Providence. Quit blowing smoke.
Goons are as boring as they sound. The most they can do is attack defenseless ships via suicide ganks because the general player skill in Goon is pretty abysmal.
It's pretty well accepted why you guys turn to 'player generated content' such as jita burn, since ya'll are worthless in null. that's because your only exposure to goonswarm was losing your poorly fit hulk to a suicide gank we have always encouraged goons to go out to highsec and flog the wildlife regardless of how well we do in 0.0, even after having conquered every region in 0.0 at some point in time, except immensea and providence
Nope. I've been around since 2004 Princess. I haven't fit a hulk since the dawn of time. |
Barakach
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
158
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:50:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Daedlus Caine wrote:First of all, I'm not sure if this belongs in the general or the alliance/corp dicussions. vov I'll risk it anyway
As I have been playing actively for about a year or two now, I've been trying to figure out why I have this mental alignment to hate the Goons. Maybe it's their popularity, maybe the fact fedoras died in the 70's, or if Mister Shadoo of PL's face makes me laugh more. So I ask of any member of the Goonswarm that passes by, what's your game? I have a difficult time thinking you're pirates. It's not the usual MO of the sociopaths of low-sec. I want to hear a Goon's thought of what they are and their alignments to the EVE universe are. Let's face it though, I'll probably only get a snark comment.
Thanks for reading!
The reason for the goon hate is because they donGÇÖt respect the game or the gaming community. They exploit every aspect of the game and try to manipulate every exploitable situation to suite them regardless of how it effects the game or the people in it. With that said In any organization both good and bad people can be found, but in bad organizations you seldom see the good people in charge. The few control the many.
Goons are like Bill Gates. Ruthless when it comes to business, but a pleasure to be with for personal reasons. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8042
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:58:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:You missed out the word, 'did'
The Goon planned and executed Ice Interdiction, was the single best player created event in my time in Eve. It was original, fun and had a purpose which affected the Eve universe.
Burn Jita was just an attention seeking exercise in futility, with no real effect on the Eve universe. Just lots of folk sacrificing their ships to Concord.
To repeat Burn Jita is evidence that the folk in the goons who can and did come up with great gameplay seem to have run out of ideas.
Shame really.
burn jita 2 was "gee, with what we've learned about freighter ganking in the last year, could we pull it off better? let's see" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Doddy
Dark-Rising
848
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:18:00 -
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Andski wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:words Show me on the doll where the bad goon touched you Also when do you want Providence burned to ash?
Please do it, it would be funny. |
Mhax Arthie
86
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:42:00 -
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Robus Muvila wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:You sound like a Goon alt trying to obscure their history. Well played yourself.
However, they are astonishingly poor winners who pay $10 to belong to the "winning" team. Their main tactic is to make other players so miserable that they leave the game. Their "leader" advocated driving other players to suicide. google Mittani art of war for more on that philosophy.
Something Awful forums is a business model that has made 1.5 million + dollars on subscriptions and has a substantial add revenue due to its subscribers. Whether or not some of this money is used to help the Goons along is impossible to ascertain. However what is undeniable is that someone has a very nice life because of Goon success.
It is this probable smashentment of RL money and influence with a game that makes people despise them. Its like the obnoxious guy who buys cheat codes and then brags about how he kicks ass. Wow, there's so many idiotic statements in this post. But for now I'll function on your forum ignorance. The physical forum entity known as "Something Awful" has no link with EvE Goons. The SA forums are run by a guy called Lowtax. The $10 joining fee serves a purpose besides sweet monies. It makes for a perfect idiot filter. Trolls, spammers and career retards are not particularly keen on paying $10 again to rejoin again upon getting banned. Thats like saying that Reddit funds Dreddit through gold subscriptions. Wait... your trolling now, right? Because if not, this is the best scam.. errr.. business model evah! So you set up a forum where you ask people to pay 10 buck to pass the idiot filter. So actually even if your a complete nut, the teen buck will make you a genius. I'm not even laughing... if this is true, it's fukin brilliant! Every day I learn something new! |
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Speedkermit Damo
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
68
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Posted - 2013.05.30 13:52:00 -
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Goons fill the role of Eve's pantomime villians very well.
When the Euro-goons deployed to Provi a few months ago, many of us came to respect their skill as PvP pilots as they gave some very good fights, and won most of them.
However as human beings, the less said about some of them, the better. but I suppose all groups have their share of snide tossers. Don't Panic.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
289
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:33:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Kamden Line wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:
Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' "
Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me! But yeah, stop badposting. It must be hard to be so irrelevant that you have to post to G-D to get someone to acknowledge you. To the rest of Nulsec, Providence and CVA are something of a running joke, ignored largely because Providence is literally the worst region in the game, outstripping even Syndicate for lack of good moons, good PVPers, and worst of all, good posters. Indeed, Providence truly is the only place in the game aside from high sec where I can follow around a fleet with a neutral alt and not get blown up. While for different reasons, it's one thing CVA and Goons share. Everyone loves to hate on them and for no personal reason.
Yup, dunno what I said that could have possibly triggered a response from a Tribe grunt of all things, but there ya go! |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
751
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:36:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Andski wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:words Show me on the doll where the bad goon touched you Also when do you want Providence burned to ash? Please do it, it would be funny. I did that once. It wasn't fun after CVA literally collapsed after losing one system.
I still have nightmares about all those station grinds
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Wow really does show how pathetic Goonswarm is, u drop 8 blackops onto a logi ship in the middle of nowhere, maybe when goonswarm gets some skilled pilots then mayb just mayb you'll be able to compete with TEST. |
Stone Roses
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:41:00 -
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Kamden Line wrote:KuroVolt wrote:Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:
Also, shouldn't there be some Provi-bloc RP going on? Like... "Corey Fumishitposter roars, 'Ye foul goons are all naught but a bunch of besotted nerfherders! Begone from EVE or thou shalt feel the wrath of my Tormentor in your backsides!' "
Hey, you are pretty good! You should totally join, you sound like CVA Director material to me! But yeah, stop badposting. It must be hard to be so irrelevant that you have to post to G-D to get someone to acknowledge you. To the rest of Nulsec, Providence and CVA are something of a running joke, ignored largely because Providence is literally the worst region in the game, outstripping even Syndicate for lack of good moons, good PVPers, and worst of all, good posters. Indeed, Providence truly is the only place in the game aside from high sec where I can follow around a fleet with a neutral alt and not get blown up.
Considering the comedy alliance you are in, how did you post that with a straight face? |
Mulani Askiras
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:50:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Doddy wrote:Andski wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:words Show me on the doll where the bad goon touched you Also when do you want Providence burned to ash? Please do it, it would be funny. I did that once. It wasn't fun after CVA literally collapsed after losing one system. I still have nightmares about all those station grinds
LOL - this guy. It'd take me all week to count the times goons have failed epically in Provi compaired to the 2 minutes it'd take to count the times they've been successful. |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
289
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:53:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Doddy wrote:Andski wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:words Show me on the doll where the bad goon touched you Also when do you want Providence burned to ash? Please do it, it would be funny. I did that once. It wasn't fun after CVA literally collapsed after losing one system. I still have nightmares about all those station grinds
Judging by your employment history you were in either -A- or Engarde [lolengarde].
Either way, they dont seem to be around anymore for some unfathomable reason.
And yet here we are...
Wait, wasnt this thread supposed to be about Goons? |
Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
96
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Posted - 2013.05.30 14:57:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Lykouleon wrote:Doddy wrote:Andski wrote:Corey Fumimasa wrote:words Show me on the doll where the bad goon touched you Also when do you want Providence burned to ash? Please do it, it would be funny. I did that once. It wasn't fun after CVA literally collapsed after losing one system. I still have nightmares about all those station grinds Judging by your employment history you were in either -A- or Engarde [lolengarde]. Either way, they dont seem to be around anymore for some unfathomable reason. And yet here we are... Wait, wasnt this thread supposed to be about Goons? Well, there was that time when CVA got kicked out of Providence and someone installed the Providence Fightclub.
The only reason CVA got back from that failure was EVOKE invading and the guys who originally kicked CVA out being busy with bigger fish.
Sure CVA is still there (and I still love what they do with being the only NRDS system) but their existence has not been without failures. |
Danni stark
428
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:00:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Danni stark wrote:love them or hate them. they create content. every one likes content. You missed out the word, 'did' The Goon planned and executed Ice Interdiction, was the single best player created event in my time in Eve. It was original, fun and had a purpose which affected the Eve universe. Burn Jita was just an attention seeking exercise in futility, with no real effect on the Eve universe. Just lots of folk sacrificing their ships to Concord. To repeat Burn Jita is evidence that the folk in the goons who can and did come up with great gameplay seem to have run out of ideas. Shame really.
so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?
doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8045
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:15:00 -
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Mulani Askiras wrote:LOL - this guy. It'd take me all week to count the times goons have failed epically in Provi compaired to the 2 minutes it'd take to count the times they've been successful.
the sad part is that nobody wants providence because it's worthless, and even if we burned the whole place to ash it'd only take 3 weeks to get back to sov 3 and have jump bridges again
there is literally only one reason CVA still holds sov and that is because you hold the worst region in the game, and unless a surprising number of R64s are seeded there this June, it simply won't be worth the grind Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
318
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:47:00 -
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So much teen angst it's palpable.
The main reason I hate goons, to make goon tears. It's super easy, just make fun of goons and harvest tears.
And tipiea or whatever, I dont hate complexity, but why would I read propaganda. It would be like reading how great North Korea is if North Korea had its own publication. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Prince Kobol
761
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:51:00 -
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Typical Goon You know its true |
Mulani Askiras
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:52:00 -
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Danni stark wrote: so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?
doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.
Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context. |
Mulani Askiras
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:54:00 -
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Andski wrote:Mulani Askiras wrote:LOL - this guy. It'd take me all week to count the times goons have failed epically in Provi compaired to the 2 minutes it'd take to count the times they've been successful. the sad part is that nobody wants providence because it's worthless, and even if we burned the whole place to ash it'd only take 3 weeks to get back to sov 3 and have jump bridges again there is literally only one reason CVA still holds sov and that is because you hold the worst region in the game, and unless a surprising number of R64s are seeded there this June, it simply won't be worth the grind
I'm not in CVA you clown. I just enjoy watching goons make excuses for failings. Maybe I'm in Goons for that matter |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8045
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:56:00 -
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Mulani Askiras wrote:I'm not in CVA you clown. I just enjoy watching goons make excuses for failings. Maybe I'm in Goons for that matter
if you were in goonswarm you'd be posting from a goonswarm character, so no, you're not Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
baltec1
Bat Country
6707
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:59:00 -
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Mulani Askiras wrote:I'm not in CVA you clown. I just enjoy watching goons make excuses for failings. Maybe I'm in Goons for that matter
What failings? |
Danni stark
428
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:02:00 -
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Mulani Askiras wrote:Danni stark wrote: so what you're saying is, content is only content if you call it content?
doesn't matter how many times they burn jita, even if they did it every week and it lost all meaning it's still going to be content.
Station spinning for hours is content as well then, in this context.
we're talking about player made content, so no, ship spinning isn't content in this context. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Untanas Volmyr
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
13
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:58:00 -
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My first experience with the goons was in Age of Conan. Goonheim. Those bastards would gather oars, shovels, rakes, and your buddies severed arm and beat u with it. And there would be swarms of them! Buggers are like army ants. The tactics they use are rather hideously evil. gg |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:18:00 -
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D.J. What are you doing to the euro goons?! /0\ |
Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
18
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:33:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:You sound like a Goon alt trying to obscure their history. Well played yourself.
However, they are astonishingly poor winners who pay $10 to belong to the "winning" team. Their main tactic is to make other players so miserable that they leave the game. Their "leader" advocated driving other players to suicide. google Mittani art of war for more on that philosophy.
Something Awful forums is a business model that has made 1.5 million + dollars on subscriptions and has a substantial add revenue due to its subscribers. Whether or not some of this money is used to help the Goons along is impossible to ascertain. However what is undeniable is that someone has a very nice life because of Goon success.
It is this probable smashentment of RL money and influence with a game that makes people despise them. Its like the obnoxious guy who buys cheat codes and then brags about how he kicks ass.
Like eve goons or not, this is a really ignorant post. The mean website thing you are describing just sounds like a successful business to me, not something to become enraged over? |
Robus Muvila
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
327
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:37:00 -
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Mhax Arthie wrote: Wait... your trolling now, right? Because if not, this is the best scam.. errr.. business model evah! So you set up a forum where you ask people to pay 10 buck to pass the idiot filter. So actually even if your a complete nut, the teen buck will make you a genius. I'm not even laughing... if this is true, it's fukin brilliant! Every day I learn something new!
Everyone pays $10, idiots get their accounts banned and don't get their money back, it's not rocket science. The mods are merciless assholes. Case in point a post like yours would get you banned just for terrible spelling and grammar.
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