EVE Search - Vindicator bonus

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Vindicator bonus

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.10.30 00:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Soulie and i still think that most of Vindicator pilots use it for NPC'ing.......... ??????? Judging by this topic you are either wrong or most of them are to ashamed of themselves to publicly admit such a sin ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 01:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Soulie and i still think that most of Vindicator pilots use it for NPC'ing.......... ??????? Judging by this topic you are either wrong or most of them are to ashamed of themselves to publicly admit such a sin ehehehehe
Doc Brown	Posted - 2005.10.30 02:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Soulie Is there a chance it can get a AfterBurner bonus instead of the MWD... Only reason is that nobody use i for pvp.. and complex/deadspace dont allow MWD's... all agree? I wouldn't mind keeping the present bonus when a MWD is on and adding a +5% per level speed bonus when an AB is on. Other than that it's good as it is (though about 1-2% more CPU and Power would be nice). _________________________________________________ There are no bad ideas, only bad implementations.
Doc Brown	Posted - 2005.10.30 02:59:00 - [34] Oh.. and people do use it for PvP _________________________________________________ There are no bad ideas, only bad implementations.
ElCapitan	Posted - 2005.10.30 07:42:00 - [35] why would you use a faction bs for npcing. Like it isnt easy enough already with regular vanilla bses..... in pvp however bonuses and extra slots/hp give you a nice advantage over people. and 600mil is not exatly super expensive.
Agricola Augusta	Posted - 2005.10.30 07:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Thomas Torquemada If all you do is simple deadspace stuff or complex's why would you use or risk a vindicator in the first place over a normal megathron. doesnt matter if its pvp or in a complex/pve'ing the ship is at risk, that 600+mil can go bang just as easily in pvp as it can in pve. i disagree - pve action is much more predictable than pvp... most of the time Ever heard of the "lag beast"? Many times have I been taken unawares whilst npcing. Would be nasty to lose a 600mil ship to lag and remember Athene say "**** happens!".
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 30/10/2005 09:19:14 Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Gabriel Karade Sorry but your idea is terrible. Afterburners and blasters don't mix, sure you light up like a Christmas tree when you burst fire your MWD, but at least you will get into contact with the enemy. The Vindicator bonus is awesome; awesome to the point where you can start to think about non-cap booster setups with high skills. i said replace the MWD bonus with a AB bonus. it can be speed or cap... Unless you make the ship 2x as fast as a normal megathron when using an AB then its a pointless exercise. If you really want to take your Vindicator into deadspace stick 425mm's and an AB on it (using that extra mid-slot) and pick apart the aggro groups from range. There's more to Eve than just deadspace you know... (\_/) (O.o) (> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on"
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:21:00 - [38] Why not just get a Machariel. ~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon Biomass fears me. Sovereignty 2.0
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:27:00 - [39] Originally by: Soulie Is there a chance it can get a AfterBurner bonus instead of the MWD... Only reason is that nobody use i for pvp.. and complex/deadspace dont allow MWD's... all agree? "give blasters some loOve!"# ...and nerf the ultimate short range battleship? heavens no! you on drugs? ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:47:00 - [40] Originally by: Gabriel Karade Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 30/10/2005 09:19:14 Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Gabriel Karade Sorry but your idea is terrible. Afterburners and blasters don't mix, sure you light up like a Christmas tree when you burst fire your MWD, but at least you will get into contact with the enemy. The Vindicator bonus is awesome; awesome to the point where you can start to think about non-cap booster setups with high skills. i said replace the MWD bonus with a AB bonus. it can be speed or cap... Unless you make the ship 2x as fast as a normal megathron when using an AB then its a pointless exercise. If you really want to take your Vindicator into deadspace stick 425mm's and an AB on it (using that extra mid-slot) and pick apart the aggro groups from range. There's more to Eve than just deadspace you know... Yeah i guess i will have to go for long range... but that's not what this thread is about - I want it to be a better blaster ship
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:52:00 - [41] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Soulie Is there a chance it can get a AfterBurner bonus instead of the MWD... Only reason is that nobody use i for pvp.. and complex/deadspace dont allow MWD's... all agree? "give blasters some loOve!"# ...and nerf the ultimate short range battleship? heavens no! you on drugs? DoH.. dont you understand that if the Vindicator gets a AB bonus it will probably be speed... and last time i checked AB's are nicer to cap.. so actually it will be better (and from my point of view more useful )
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Agricola Augusta Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Thomas Torquemada If all you do is simple deadspace stuff or complex's why would you use or risk a vindicator in the first place over a normal megathron. doesnt matter if its pvp or in a complex/pve'ing the ship is at risk, that 600+mil can go bang just as easily in pvp as it can in pve. i disagree - pve action is much more predictable than pvp... most of the time Ever heard of the "lag beast"? Many times have I been taken unawares whilst npcing. Would be nasty to lose a 600mil ship to lag and remember Athene say "**** happens!". Lag beast? never heard of it.. only makes me wonder if you have tried... 1) upgrade your computer 2) send a petition to CCP
Ithildin	Posted - 2005.10.30 09:57:00 - [43] You don't realize that an MWD on a Vindicator works like a +15% capacitor battery? AB is nicer on capacitor? Not really. (This at level 5 Gal BShip) Also, you fit MWD because you need to get into possition. For the AB to be a valid replacement the AB bonus would have to be in the region of +40% per Gal BShip level (for a total speed boost of 300% to 400% at level 5 and dependent on AB used). This is not really balanced for anything but a guaranteed BLASTERicator, and even then it's a bit over the top. If you fit it with railguns you'll have a very overpowered ship. The reason is the sig penalty of the MWD. Face it, the Thorax hulls, and the Vindicator are PvP ships, not PvE ships. Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there.
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 10:02:00 - [44] Originally by: Doc Brown Oh.. and people do use it for PvP yeah apperently
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2005.10.30 10:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Gabriel Karade Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 30/10/2005 09:19:14 Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Gabriel Karade Sorry but your idea is terrible. Afterburners and blasters don't mix, sure you light up like a Christmas tree when you burst fire your MWD, but at least you will get into contact with the enemy. The Vindicator bonus is awesome; awesome to the point where you can start to think about non-cap booster setups with high skills. i said replace the MWD bonus with a AB bonus. it can be speed or cap... Unless you make the ship 2x as fast as a normal megathron when using an AB then its a pointless exercise. If you really want to take your Vindicator into deadspace stick 425mm's and an AB on it (using that extra mid-slot) and pick apart the aggro groups from range. There's more to Eve than just deadspace you know... Yeah i guess i will have to go for long range... but that's not what this thread is about - I want it to be a better blaster ship You just don't get it do you? It already is the supreme blaster ship, getting rid of the MWD bonus for an AB one would would make it worse (it would be too slow, and it would lose the extensive capacitor benefit) (\_/) (O.o) (> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on"
Ithildin	Posted - 2005.10.30 10:11:00 - [46] Originally by: Soulie Originally by: Doc Brown Oh.. and people do use it for PvP yeah apperently I'm not allowed to post killmails, but if you go to our killboard (coalition.killboard.net/?p=ship&s=Vindicator) and serch for the Vindicator by ship type, you'll see we do have those in PvP. That particular ship record isn't pretty for us, though. Also, do the same for 5, bob (killboard.net/?p=ship&s=Vindicator), etc. you'll find quite a few of these rarities having been lost and killed. Granted, some were forced into PvP, but that's EVE. Far from all PvP Apocs choose to PvP - they were forced to. Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there.
Soulie	Posted - 2005.10.30 10:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Ithildin You don't realize that an MWD on a Vindicator works like a +15% capacitor battery? AB is nicer on capacitor? Not really. (This at level 5 Gal BShip) Also, you fit MWD because you need to get into possition. For the AB to be a valid replacement the AB bonus would have to be in the region of +40% per Gal BShip level (for a total speed boost of 300% to 400% at level 5 and dependent on AB used). This is not really balanced for anything but a guaranteed BLASTERicator, and even then it's a bit over the top. If you fit it with railguns you'll have a very overpowered ship. The reason is the sig penalty of the MWD. Face it, the Thorax hulls, and the Vindicator are PvP ships, not PvE ships. Thanks.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2005.10.30 11:12:00 - [48] Edited by: Luc Boye on 30/10/2005 11:12:51 Originally by: Soulie using a 600 mill BS for pvp is crazy! and i'm not counting the equippment cost - i doubt these "many people" are a big percentage of the total number of Vindicator pilots... can Vindicator pilots pls say something here too.. thanks What else is there to use it for? Oh and about afterburner bonus... why? It's not like AB is cap hungry. MWD on the other hand is, and its needed in pvp.
The Hanz	Posted - 2005.10.30 11:17:00 - [49] Edited by: The Hanz on 30/10/2005 11:17:26 I don't agree with what the original idea was, but if you want it to work for both worlds you could give a 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level of Minmatar BS thus effectively doing the same thing but giving you an advantage if you don't us an MWD.....but I do like the bonuses as it is. - edit - spelling -
madaluap	Posted - 2005.10.30 11:23:00 - [50] Edited by: madaluap on 30/10/2005 11:24:34 Originally by: Soulie Is there a chance it can get a AfterBurner bonus instead of the MWD... Only reason is that nobody use i for pvp.. and complex/deadspace dont allow MWD's... all agree? "give blasters some loOve!"# NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..DIEDIE i didnt spend 1.2 bil to use it as a ab bs in pvp...jezus wtf edit: i cant remember who said this, but: "you dont need teh edge in npcing" couldnt agree more.
Ithildin	Posted - 2005.10.30 11:28:00 - [51] Originally by: madaluap NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOO..DIEDIE Use it. Don't fight in Jita. That system is bugged to hell and back. The most unusual things can happen there.
madaluap	Posted - 2005.10.30 11:28:00 - [52] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: madaluap NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO[LINEBREAK] OOOOO..DIEDIE Use it. allready did

Pages: 1 [2] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.