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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:32:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've been pulling together the patch notes from all our teams and getting them formatted ready for release. Given the sheer number of bullet points, its safe to say there's a bit more than "tweaking the scanning system and changing the way it works slightly." 
In the early 1800s, the Spanish king Ferdinand VII (one of the worst kings to ever walk the face of Earth in any country) was worried that a anti-French militia was still active. He ordered to have it dismissed, and some time later he was visiting a new royalist militia and noticd that many of the militia men were known faces fromt he old militia. Unimpressed by this, he said "What do we have here? Those are the same dogs, with a different collar". Since then, the idiom was adopted in other languages, and means the disappointment caused by how an apparent change it's just cosmetic.
Bulletpointing 1,000 collars won't make the old dogs of EVE look any younger.
That's not bad when you're essentially re-selling the game to people who already had bought it in the last 10 years, but it's not exactly exciting to those who didn't bought it for the same period.
And that includes many people who still are playing the game despite of your efforts to mess with their interests, rather than because of the unexistant efforts to please those same interests...
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Jacabon Mere
Capital Storm.
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.05.31 23:28:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Koj 'Jok wrote:I'm just here to argue that we are indeed paying for these expansions. No, you're paying for the privilege of using CCP's servers to play the game. CCP is not under any contractual obligation to deliver expansions to you because you pay your subscription fees, and there are no fees for expansions. You don't really even have to have ever paid a subscription fee to receive the expansion, since you'd still get them if you were on your 14 day trial for example.
CCP are under the obligation to fix their game, they just call them expansions.
As for people saying we complained about big features and now they just tweak stuff and we still complain. The issue is we wanted CCP to stop ignoring the little things. now they are ignoring the big things to fix little things.
Half this patch looks like it will be GUI changes........something we can all get excited about.
Admittedly this one is better than the last 3 or 4, but pathetic small expansion is still that however CCP try make it into a million dot points.
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kosswomen Mckay
Fight Club Outfit
19
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:32:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:Saorlan wrote:
Time for some real expansions. Time to realise the original goal of Eve. Time to open that freeking station door!!!
Pretty sure the "original goal of Eve" is about as far from WiS as you can get.
Nope. I played Eve back in early Beta and the discussion was that the game would follow the development of PC hardware and when it was technical;y possible to add in walking on planets and getting out your ship more then that is where it would expand into.
We are stagnated by just being in space STILL 10 YEARS LATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion the OP has itright |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices
Petition Blizzard
45
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:35:00 -
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kosswomen Mckay wrote:Haulie Berry wrote:Saorlan wrote:
Time for some real expansions. Time to realise the original goal of Eve. Time to open that freeking station door!!!
Pretty sure the "original goal of Eve" is about as far from WiS as you can get. Nope. I played Eve back in early Beta and the discussion was that the game would follow the development of PC hardware and when it was technical;y possible to add in walking on planets and getting out your ship more then that is where it would expand into. We are stagnated by just being in space STILL 10 YEARS LATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In my opinion the OP has itright
Have you ever heard of a copy called Bullfrog? and a developer called Peter Molyneux?
If not, this explains why you are confusing 10 year old brainstorming and conjecture sessions with reality.
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Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:38:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Er... is that it?
You (CCP) have tweaked the scanning system and changed the way it works slightly and are selling this as an expansion.
Does anyone else feel the same way as me after each supposed expansion - utterly dejected and depressed with the progress this game is making. When are CCP going to actually move the game on a bit ie open that station cabin door for our avatar.
There was a brilliant post about a prototype exploration game made in Unity engine that CCP had been protyping. You actually got out of your ship and explored the site, other players could come and hunt you. It was FPS love in space. Where is that? We get a few changes to exploration and call it an expansion.
Oh and you add some new system travel animation....
Man this is the only game that is worth playing at the moment but you guys really need to grow a pair and release something more than tweaks.
Please hurry the **** up CCP.
They move at a glacial pace. One of the highlights of Odyssey is the new jumpgate animation - which everyone will turn off after a month - that was described at Fanfest by a dev as inducing "nerd boner". Nerd boner. Something I never want to experience.
Anyway, the majority of CCP's developers have been working on not-EVE projects for at least :18months:. Part of me wants Dust to crash and burn inside of 6 months so they can re-focus on EVE. The other part thinks that if Dust fails then CCP (and EVE) gets dragged down the tubes with it.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
685
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:43:00 -
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Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing.
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Roisin Connor
Born Imperialism
Defiant Legacy
57
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:48:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing.
Ok so why even bother having a game at all then? Lets just play in the virtual sand box....what an ******* comment Vaju.
By adding more sand into the sandbox ie expanding the game can only be a good thing.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
685
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:56:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing. Ok so why even bother having a game at all then? Lets just play in the virtual sand box....what an ******* comment Vaju. By adding more sand into the sandbox ie expanding the game can only be a good thing.
Again, if you don't like it, go play a themepark mmo-rpg, you will get alot of "content" in that type of kindergarten games.
In the meanwhile, CCP is on fire with 4 amayzing expansions in a row. EvE Online is in its best shape ever.
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Roisin Connor
Born Imperialism
Defiant Legacy
57
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:58:00 -
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Slutvana Khorkina wrote:Not a good thing or a bad thing, but CCP is putting most of the money and effort into other projects. You want WiS, I give you DUST 514 and whatever the heck the vampire game is called (which I sure hope works out better for CCP than Secret World did for Funcom).
What I would like is a game that does spaceships the way Eve does and ground/station content the way SW:TOR did (does, I guess its still around). But alas, apparently we can't have that.
Star Citizen might be what it takes to get Eve more focused. I'm an early backer of it. But also every time I read something from the SC team it screams themepark/carebear to me so I hope I'm wrong. But SC also doesn't seem like its going to have much/any personal content -- just spaceships. I love spaceships -- especially exploding mining barges -- but there is nothing wrong with wanting to walk around a bit as an actual person. Before you discount all that as space barbies you might want to look at all the hard work people put into their profile pictures. Some of you guys actually used isk and even real money to buy goggles and monocles. That goon guy who only shows the top of his head is about the only one I would accept as a legitimate, "I don't want any sort of avatar in my spaceship game" player.
For those of you who sit in station all day scamming (and Erotica 1 who is legit), I bet you would love to sit, avatar like, across the table from someone while you took everything they had.
Odyssey isn't an 'expansion'. Its a huge patch of existing things. Things that need to be fixed. But hardly an expansion.
This is the best post on this topic so far. Thanks for existing Slutvana :)
I can not actually see why anyone would argue with my original statement that this game needs to have proper development added to it soon, some proper expansions.
Obviously some people in CCP agree. Look at fan fest. There was a twitch based combat simulator using the Oculus Rift. Look at the Unity Engine prototype they developed with Avatars exploring deserted space stations. Look at all the You Tube footage of what Incarna might have been.
We seem to have a vocal minority that are running the show and stopping even discussion about "opening the door" (metaphorical meaning Avatar development). CCP have listened to this for 2 years now and produced 4 patches adding nothing new to the game apart from some tweaks to game play. Good tweaks but tweaks all the same.
But who exactly is this vocal minority? They slang thing like space barbies and wow in space and **** like that. Can they honestly say the as the post above commented that they would not like to see a physical representation of themselves sat discussing an idea in a bar in a station? Can someone explain how that can possibly a negative? No you can not.
Yes Dust was made and that is good but it is not a replacement for expanding Eve into Avatar stuff which I fear CCP has been pushed into leaving Eve as a space only game.
My plea is to the developers to please let us know if you have any plans at all (near term) to start really expanding the game or is it all just game play patches from now on.
For the sake of our sanity please tell us if the door is ever going to open!!!
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Roisin Connor
Born Imperialism
Defiant Legacy
57
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:02:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Roisin Connor wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing. Ok so why even bother having a game at all then? Lets just play in the virtual sand box....what an ******* comment Vaju. By adding more sand into the sandbox ie expanding the game can only be a good thing. Again, if you don't like it, go play a themepark mmo-rpg, you will get alot of "content" in that type of kindergarten games. In the meanwhile, CCP is on fire with 4 amayzing expansions in a row. EvE Online is in its best shape ever.
What you have just said does not even address my reply. How can me wanting more to the sandbox, more sand for players to do their own things (ie the opposite of theme park) lead to me possibly wanting to play a themepark game???!!
Get a brain Vaju or do not "argue" in these forums. If you are happy with the 4 patches in a row then good for you. I am happy as well but I want to encourage the team to make more drastic and better additions to the game. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
337
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:06:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_pack
Hmmm, sounds like an expansion to me.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
686
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:15:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Roisin Connor wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing. Ok so why even bother having a game at all then? Lets just play in the virtual sand box....what an ******* comment Vaju. By adding more sand into the sandbox ie expanding the game can only be a good thing. Again, if you don't like it, go play a themepark mmo-rpg, you will get alot of "content" in that type of kindergarten games. In the meanwhile, CCP is on fire with 4 amayzing expansions in a row. EvE Online is in its best shape ever. What you have just said does not even address my reply. How can me wanting more to the sandbox, more sand for players to do their own things (ie the opposite of theme park) lead to me possibly wanting to play a themepark game???!! Get a brain Vaju or do not "argue" in these forums. If you are happy with the 4 patches in a row then good for you. I am happy as well but I want to encourage the team to make more drastic and better additions to the game.
Get a brain? Oh the irony.....
You clearly are a member of the two digit iq club, you are asking for barbie dolls irrelevant avatar "content", "content" that almost killed EvE online in the past, when CCP neglected the game to deliver that trash. Their nothing you can't do within the current game that you would do with the avatar "content".
So sims online ---->
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brinelan
The Flying Dead
Ethereal Dawn
40
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:26:00 -
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Saorlan wrote:
Time for some real expansions. Time to realise the original goal of Eve. Time to open that freeking station door!!!
lol I hear the sims is coming out with a new game if you like to walk around and look at things and calling it a game. Give us iterations on spaceships and nullsec and posses ... |
Roel Yento
Black Rain Cartel
11
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:43:00 -
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A few points, you aren't paying for expansions, you are paying to play the game. If ccp chose to stop making patches/expansions and left the servers running you would still be able to play. Currently they choose to reinvest into the game buy making major patches/expansions. All it takes is them to stop advertising that you get expansions for free and you won't get jack.
Most other mmo's expansions have lots of visible content, i.e. new areas, gear, bosses, playable characters is because they are pve focused games. Sure they may have pvp but almost none of them are pvp focused. Environments are way different too. Easier to make a new landmass feel like a large expansion because it will have its own astetic. You expect ccp to add more space wich is mostly empty with some areas that have matter? By the way this is a goal of theirs, to let people build stargates to unknown systems. Do people want more pve content or something? Many people that play would probably like the pve content to be improved, ships to be ballanced, more ships, module ballance and additions, and lots of quality of life changes.
I'm gonna guess many people that complain about not having new stuff to do have not found what they enjoy doing in game or have tried everything extensively and want something new. Somehow i have a feeling that more people probably haven't found something they enjoy doing. If they did, they would want patches/expansions to improve in those areas.
As for WiS, sure it may be cool to be able to do but i'm sure many people won't bother since they are undocked and out doing things. Also if you live in a wormhole, you won' get to experience WiS much since you can't dock in your POS. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:57:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Got love people that cry about lack of "content" on sandbox mmo-rpg games, they really think they are playing some themepark mmo-rpg, it's really funny lol
In this type of games, players are the content, what EvE Online needs is constant iteration on existing systems, the last 3 expansions were amayzing.
Every sandbox comes with tools so players make content.
I guess that to some people, coloring the Red Spade into the Blue Spade is terribly exciting and worth their monies, but some other people just would like to get a bucket along with the spade.
I've been playing this game intermitently for over 4 years, and currently in 2013 there is nothing that interests me that wasn't already there in 2008. That's kind of uninspiring and makes the game look very old and tired.
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Vawd
Tax Evasion Ltd
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:32:00 -
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There is more than the scanning changes, however I was hoping walking in stations would have been put in by now, I would be willing to pay for an expansion that allows me to walk in the stations, and explore stations that are ruins. The people who dont want it, wouldnt have to pay for it, and get no access to it. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
771
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:37:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:I've been pulling together the patch notes from all our teams and getting them formatted ready for release. Given the sheer number of bullet points, its safe to say there's a bit more than "tweaking the scanning system and changing the way it works slightly."
Jam the crap out of OP !!
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Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research
Epsilon Fleet
341
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:01:00 -
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I'm starting believe that many members in the eve community are more entitled that wow players.
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites
United Federation of Commerce
898
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:12:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:I'm starting believe that many members in the eve community are more entitled that wow players.
you know what, I also think that such a thing is happening.
worst of all is, it's not the bittervets, altho there are some bitter vets, and it's not the noobs, altho there are some noobs.
I think it's more visible in the 1-3 year character bracket.
I shall now dub these the entitled bitter noobvettes, or nublarettes for short.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
108
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:13:00 -
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Wormholes was the last true expansion. Possibly incursions too. Everything since has been tweaks to existing systems. Necessary but nothing new.
CCP needs to add something new. I bet the next thing will be player-built gates, hopefully to new systems.
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BoSau Hotim
Whale Whatchers
5362
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:35:00 -
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Roisin Connor wrote:Er... is that it?
You (CCP) have tweaked the scanning system and changed the way it works slightly and are selling this as an expansion.
Does anyone else feel the same way as me after each supposed expansion - utterly dejected and depressed with the progress this game is making. When are CCP going to actually move the game on a bit ie open that station cabin door for our avatar.
There was a brilliant post about a prototype exploration game made in Unity engine that CCP had been protyping. You actually got out of your ship and explored the site, other players could come and hunt you. It was FPS love in space. Where is that? We get a few changes to exploration and call it an expansion.
Oh and you add some new system travel animation....
Man this is the only game that is worth playing at the moment but you guys really need to grow a pair and release something more than tweaks.
Please hurry the **** up CCP.
You obviously don't read the launcher links that say what is coming.
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