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Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
NightSong Directorate
321
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Posted - 2013.06.27 03:10:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:see a lot of T2 BPOs sold on forum and wonder if the owners got some leaked information about a possible nerf.
Anything?
I personally think its long overdue.
The increased rate of decrypter drops have increased the profitability of invention T2 BPC's while not adding additional value you manufacturing with T2 BPO's.
No nerf here, but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known. |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:26:00 -
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Styth spiting wrote:
but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known.
max ME is still -1, no change there. If there was no profit to make before the patch, there won't profit for the Inventor today either( in most cases at least).
The biggest buff for invention wasn`t actually the decryptor change itself, but the new hacking site that is actually fun to run now.
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Niikumi Miyu
Black Salmon
1
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:44:00 -
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I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.
And also being a douche. |
Haulie Berry
1100
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:34:00 -
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Niikumi Miyu wrote:I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.
And also being a douche.
I'll try being nicer when the rest of you try being smarter. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1367
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Posted - 2013.06.27 17:27:00 -
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Niikumi Miyu wrote:I think this thread is some kind of experiment to see if haulie can reach some sort of singularity of projecting.
And also being a douche.
She (he) is already on my extremely short list of blocked Forum posters, include Brewlar Whathisname and James432423423719283735687268273.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.06.27 19:46:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Hello, I want to inform everyone who is on my Block-List cause that matters to this topic
cool story AND valuable post. still blocked now, tho |
Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
39
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:32:00 -
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The whole ROI thing over 10 years overlooks that T2 BPOs tend to be worth more as time goes on. Those who acquired early exhumer BPOs don't even have to make/copy anything and they can sell their BPOs for hundred times more than they paid.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3565
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Posted - 2013.06.28 01:30:00 -
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Sabre Rolf wrote:Styth spiting wrote:
but the ability for T2 BPO manufacturers to sell items at a price that is unprofitable though invention as well as decreasing the gap in the profitability of T2 BPO's over invention has been decreased enough for people who own these blueprints to want and try to sell them off before their decreased value becomes known.
max ME is still -1, no change there. If there was no profit to make before the patch, there won't profit for the Inventor today either( in most cases at least). The biggest buff for invention wasn`t actually the decryptor change itself, but the new hacking site that is actually fun to run now.
If it costs less to make one run of a -1 BPC, that's a buff.
If it cost less to make any given ME of BPC, that's a buff for items where that's the most profitable decryptor to use.
And, finally, a buff to invention doesn't have to make any specific item more profitable to produce. An across the board +1 PE would be a buff to invention, so would any number of UI improvements, because inventors are not tied to any specific item.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Sabre Rolf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2013.06.28 07:34:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
If it costs less to make one run of a -1 BPC, that's a buff.
If it cost less to make any given ME of BPC, that's a buff for items where that's the most profitable decryptor to use.
~context~
I didn`t say anything else. I was just pointing out that the hard limit where a Inventor can make profit didn`t change much (only by the decreased decryptor price itself maybe)
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Felicity Love
Interstellar Booty Hunters
703
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Posted - 2013.06.28 14:53:00 -
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Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
422
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:22:00 -
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Im not really following this entire topic but to break open the discussion if its worth it or not:
Most people in the T2 production business from back in the days were semi collectors. They build up usualy collection of T2 bpo's with the profit they gained form the ones in possesion. As example, back when T2 Capacitor rechargers did cost 20 mil isk the profit from 1 such a bpo was enourmous, maybe 5-6b a week ish. Bpo's that people actuly sold and not kept where bought up for far less isk than today. Years back, 500 milion isk was alloot if isk, which you actualy could net a T2 frigat bpo with some luck. This favoured the few over the many and the smart people kept investing in new ones. Keeping bpo's where the purchage cost are alleardy earned back form is lucrative. Squeezing out pure profits a week, imaging the bigger holders creaming out 70+ bil a week or 3,6T a year in pure profits + the increasing "rarity" value. The bigger the pool of "to invest" profits (profits are to invest pppl!!!) the harder it is to find low risk investments. Ofc you can always ditch a tril in minerals but thats not the point im trying to make here. The sprial is like a good poker game where some slowly collects more fiches than the person next to him untill there is 1 or 2 players left which will have a bigger legit low risk income bigger than some mayor alliances. Kinda a natural cycle of the economic's & monitairy system in "democratic" counties on mini scale (not exact stuffs) due the natural origin of the valuta priciples, in this case: Isk.
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Miss TechOne
Ramdon Industries corporation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.28 22:15:00 -
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Eyes |
Keldor Eternia
Multnomah Interstellar Holdings Inc.
8
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Posted - 2013.09.01 01:20:00 -
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They already nerfed them. It's called new decryptors. |
Forio
Free Galactic Industry
0
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Posted - 2013.09.01 01:59:00 -
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I sold my last t2 bpo like 3 months ago. They way I figured the math, for the price I got I would have had to non-stop manufacture the item 24/7/365 for 5 years (and had the logistics and wait for sales) at the current market price to make the same ammount of isk I got by selling it to someone who wanted it for his collection.
The only way they are profitable in any short term capacity is if you were around for the lottery and you kept your originals. The ones appearing on the market for 10-30 or more billion would take the owner more time to recoupe their money by manufacturing than putting up a POS and doing the invention on the same item. |
Volundark Gallente
Intergalactic Space Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.02 12:18:00 -
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How to get t2 BPOs? sorry im still a noob
Justice Is just a matter of perspective |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
592
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Posted - 2013.09.02 12:23:00 -
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Buy off another player (for tens of billions or more). The lottery that produced them ended 6 years or so ago. |
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