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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2507
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:42:00 -
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Hi everybody!
As some of you may have noticed, the King of Lowsec event did not go off without some controversy. We declared Pandemic Legion the winner of the event and were prepped to fly their flag over CCP HQ. However, some people rightly complained about this decision. According to in-game kill reports, Urine Alliance appeared to be in the lead, thanks to their destruction of numerous CCP pods from the Dev Roam that were fitted with highly expensive Crystal implants and hardwirings.
Our initial intention with the King of Lowsec event was to encourage PVP and get players to blow each other up. We like seeing players explode. But in that last sentence you will see a very important word that we forgot to include in our rules (hint: it's the word "player"). Because of this, our intent did not square with our published rules. Compounding this was the fact our rules contained the clause "All kills which adhere to these guidelines will count, regardless of the circumstances surrounding them."
Once again, our intention there was to cover certain cases. For instance, if some alliance had decided they had a few extra Titans laying around and were willing to sacrifice them for this event to friendly fire, we were all for that. Or if there was a loss due to a bug or other issue, we were still going to count it, even if there was a reimbursement. And, once again, our intention was not clearly reflected in the actual rule.
Therefore, after a long bit of internal discussion, we have decided the only fair thing to do is revise our original announcement and instead announce the Kings of Lowsec:
Pandemic Legion AND Urine Alliance
We have already received a logo from Urine Alliance that we are in the process of having made into a flag. But because it's not done yet, we are going to have to delay putting up either flag until it is finished. Our original goal was to put the flag up June 1st and fly it until July 1st. We're not exactly sure how long it will take to get the flag printed, but we're hoping not too long.
In the end, both flags will be flown side-by-side for 1 full month. It may be from June 14th to July 14th, or whenever, but it will happen.
We apologize to everyone who has been negatively affected by this and we've definitely treated it as a learning experience for when we put together contests like this.
New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Raziphan Rebular
Blue Sky Labs
67
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:46:00 -
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Bah, how can one share the Tritanium throne? This is definitely going to cause a succession war. |
Threestep
Aperture Harmonics K162
8
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:50:00 -
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Given the name of the other alliance, couldn't you just pee on the PL flag and fly it? |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
103
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:59:00 -
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There is only one Lord of Lowsec, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power. |
IamBeastx
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
95
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:01:00 -
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Lets get it right.
PL Kings of Player vs player lowsec pvp.
Urine kings of some other stat padding method. All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific. |
EdFromHumanResources
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
131
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:05:00 -
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How polite of CCP to fly the runner up's flag as well as our own. |
xXxWirtyXDoorxXx
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
32
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:05:00 -
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PL just got a plate full of buttmashed potatoes put on their doorstep. |
Raziphan Rebular
Blue Sky Labs
67
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:05:00 -
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EdFromHumanResources wrote:How polite of CCP to fly the runner up's flag as well as our own.
Actually urine was like 5th, or something like that. |
Morrow Disca
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
64
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:06:00 -
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That's some nice spineless backpedaling there CCP. Well done.
How does this change the top 10? https://twitter.com/SniggWaffe |
EdFromHumanResources
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
131
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:07:00 -
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Raziphan Rebular wrote:EdFromHumanResources wrote:How polite of CCP to fly the runner up's flag as well as our own. Actually urine was like 5th, or something like that. That just goes to show how benevolent they are, willing to recognize not only a losing alliance, but someone that's barely in the top 5.
Props to CCP. |
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Steelrattty
Broski North Black Legion.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:09:00 -
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PL in the company of their equals and the liquid they are no better than. |
Zakn Tawate
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
29
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:12:00 -
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Where does one apply for a participation trophy? I think I killed something in lowsec. Probably a Poco |
Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
168
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:15:00 -
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It's cool PL, you can be our queens.
IamBeastx wrote:Lets get it right.
PL Kings of Player vs player lowsec pvp.
Urine kings of some other stat padding method.
U mad?
http://static.cdn-seekingalpha.com/uploads/2013/1/2/261750-13571728719621577-George-Acs.jpg |
IamBeastx
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
95
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:19:00 -
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Since urine where so far down the list, this most likely means the king (Elendar) and his jester (grarr dex). All my life i wanted to be someone, now i know i should have been more specific. |
Dark Flare
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:27:00 -
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I see it didn't take the PL misguided damage control long to arrive |
Yugo Reventlov
Hax. Game Over.
21
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:30:00 -
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Now everybody gets to win! Let's sing happy songs around the campfire together! |
Dark Flare
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:31:00 -
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also you should totally post the new line-up of results |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
2535
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:31:00 -
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The real question however is what order will the flags be on the flag pole? Pretty sure we only have one flag pole, so one of those flags has to be above the other...
Just saying... Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Larkonis Trassler
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
216
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:32:00 -
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IamBeastx wrote:Lets get it right.
PL Kings of farming noobs in a lagged out system for 3 hours.
Urine kings of Lowsec.
FTFY.
Hugesmug.gif High sec war dec? Tired of having bullies kick sand in your face? L Trassler, mercenary for 'hire' |
Verys
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
31
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:34:00 -
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Pee goes down and not up. Therefore to comply with the laws of physics it is clear that the urine flag should be one top. |
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Amantus
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
300
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:34:00 -
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lmao |
Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
168
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:35:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:The real question however is what order will the flags be on the flag pole? Pretty sure we only have one flag pole, so one of those flags has to be above the other...
Just saying...
I'll send you guys a broom you can fly the PL flag on, you're going to have to find a stand yourself though. |
Dark Flare
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:35:00 -
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Verys wrote:Pee goes down and not up. Therefore to comply with the laws of physics it is clear that the urine flag should be one top. first thing in the morning i can do a pretty good job of peeing up |
David Magnus
199
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:35:00 -
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When I was in 5th grade there was a boy in my class named Adam with some form of autism. I don't think many people knew about autism at the time, but they understood that something was different about him, that he didn't learn the same way and that he needed extra attention and help. There wasn't really a name for what was wrong with him back then I think, but looking back I'm pretty sure he had a pervasive development disorder.
Anyway, once a year we had a track and field day where all the students could choose to compete in different activities to earn ribbons. You could get excellent, gold, silver, bronze and participation ribbons. The kids participating weren't ranked into first, second, or third place or anything, but if you hit a certain achievement level you won a ribbon. I was naturally athletic, but never really trained for anything and mostly got silver or bronze ribbons. I was, however, very proud of my speed.
In the "100 meter dash" race, I got an "Excellence" ribbon and was quite thrilled. The running events were easy to compete in and so almost everyone did, including the few children in our schooled like Adam. Adam ran hard and was genuinely a pretty fast kid, but tripped over his own awkward feet and fell about half-way through the race. Instead of getting up and continuing to run, he laid there and cried. He wailed! He lay in the dirt, with snot and tears mixing into mud as he sputtered and choked and whined and sobbed. Several teachers came over to try and comfort him, to make sure he was ok and attempt to quell his anguish, but he would not abate.
Eventually, when it looked like the school would have to call his mother to come get him as had so often happened in the past, a kind yet misguided teacher offered him a ribbon for his hard work. She had a bright and shiny Excellence ribbon in her hand as she told him that "It was alright," and "If you hadn't tripped I'm sure you would have earned this!" I was shocked. I had run hard and earned my ribbon, but Adam was given things he didn't earn because he was "special" and because he cried enough.
I went home that afternoon after school was over and told my parents the whole story. My dad sat down next to me, and told me I truly deserved the Excellence ribbon and Adam did not. But, Adam very different and he didn't understand that getting something you didn't earn was meaningless. He told me that the teacher who gave him the ribbon was kind-hearted but also didn't understand that her choice devalued the achievements of everyone else - but not to fault her for wanting Adam to stop crying and to feel like he earned something even if he truly did not. He told me to be proud of myself and not let the actions of others change how I feel about myself.
That day I learned a very valuable life lesson. Some people earn what they have, and others have things given to them which they do not deserve - but that doesn't mean you should stop trying to earn things for yourself. The next day I went over to Adam, who I'm sure was picking his nose and eating the result, and congratulated him on the "Excellent" ribbon he received the previous day. I did it without a single hint of sarcasm and without a snide remark, but looked him in the eyes and told him I was happy for him.
And so now I do the same.
Congratulations URINE, I genuinely hope you enjoy your flag being flown over the CCP headquarters next month. It's a unique honour and I think your Snuffbox logo is quite cool looking - I hope that's the one that you chose to fly!
Have a great day, I'm sure we'll see you guys around in low-sec again :) http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/fight-us-maybe http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/winterupdate http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/supercaps http://soundcloud.com/davidkmagnus/pandemiclegion |
badermans
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:36:00 -
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Well done Grarr
We love you |
Verys
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
31
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:36:00 -
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Dark Flare wrote:Verys wrote:Pee goes down and not up. Therefore to comply with the laws of physics it is clear that the urine flag should be one top. first thing in the morning i can do a pretty good job of peeing up
That is still the minor part of 24 hours. |
Dark Flare
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:37:00 -
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David Magnus wrote:When I was in 5th grade there was a boy in my class named Adam with some form of autism. I don't think many people knew about autism at the time, but they understood that something was different about him, that he didn't learn the same way and that he needed extra attention and help. There wasn't really a name for what was wrong with him back then I think, but looking back I'm pretty sure he had a pervasive development disorder.
Anyway, once a year we had a track and field day where all the students could choose to compete in different activities to earn ribbons. You could get excellent, gold, silver, bronze and participation ribbons. The kids participating weren't ranked into first, second, or third place or anything, but if you hit a certain achievement level you won a ribbon. I was naturally athletic, but never really trained for anything and mostly got silver or bronze ribbons. I was, however, very proud of my speed.
In the "100 meter dash" race, I got an "Excellence" ribbon and was quite thrilled. The running events were easy to compete in and so almost everyone did, including the few children in our schooled like Adam. Adam ran hard and was genuinely a pretty fast kid, but tripped over his own awkward feet and fell about half-way through the race. Instead of getting up and continuing to run, he laid there and cried. He wailed! He lay in the dirt, with snot and tears mixing into mud as he sputtered and choked and whined and sobbed. Several teachers came over to try and comfort him, to make sure he was ok and attempt to quell his anguish, but he would not abate.
Eventually, when it looked like the school would have to call his mother to come get him as had so often happened in the past, a kind yet misguided teacher offered him a ribbon for his hard work. She had a bright and shiny Excellence ribbon in her hand as she told him that "It was alright," and "If you hadn't tripped I'm sure you would have earned this!" I was shocked. I had run hard and earned my ribbon, but Adam was given things he didn't earn because he was "special" and because he cried enough.
I went home that afternoon after school was over and told my parents the whole story. My dad sat down next to me, and told me I truly deserved the Excellence ribbon and Adam did not. But, Adam very different and he didn't understand that getting something you didn't earn was meaningless. He told me that the teacher who gave him the ribbon was kind-hearted but also didn't understand that her choice devalued the achievements of everyone else - but not to fault her for wanting Adam to stop crying and to feel like he earned something even if he truly did not. He told me to be proud of myself and not let the actions of others change how I feel about myself.
That day I learned a very valuable life lesson. Some people earn what they have, and others have things given to them which they do not deserve - but that doesn't mean you should stop trying to earn things for yourself. The next day I went over to Adam, who I'm sure was picking his nose and eating the result, and congratulated him on the "Excellent" ribbon he received the previous day. I did it without a single hint of sarcasm and without a snide remark, but looked him in the eyes and told him I was happy for him.
And so now I do the same.
Congratulations URINE, I genuinely hope you enjoy your flag being flown over the CCP headquarters next month. It's a unique honour and I think your Snuffbox logo is quite cool looking - I hope that's the one that you chose to fly!
Have a great day, I'm sure we'll see you guys around in low-sec again :) this one time a [edited] came and made a post in a thread and then i posted about it
i learned that ur [edited]
congrats on ur [edited] |
Dark Flare
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:40:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:The real question however is what order will the flags be on the flag pole? Pretty sure we only have one flag pole, so one of those flags has to be above the other...
Just saying... well since PL probably came second (or worse) then you only have to put one flag up anyway
i mean it is the winners flag that goes up
and pl didnt win |
Ryan Air
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
41
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:40:00 -
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IamBeastx wrote:Lets get it right.
PL Kings of Player vs player lowsec pvp.
Urine kings of some other stat padding method.
Your right.
PL, most kills with a SB in a system with a completely controlled environment
Urine King of Low Sec due to ACTUAL fighting people.
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Amantus
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
300
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:42:00 -
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David Magnus wrote:When I was in 5th grade there was a boy in my class named Adam with some form of autism. I don't think many people knew about autism at the time, but they understood that something was different about him, that he didn't learn the same way and that he needed extra attention and help. There wasn't really a name for what was wrong with him back then I think, but looking back I'm pretty sure he had a pervasive development disorder.
Anyway, once a year we had a track and field day where all the students could choose to compete in different activities to earn ribbons. You could get excellent, gold, silver, bronze and participation ribbons. The kids participating weren't ranked into first, second, or third place or anything, but if you hit a certain achievement level you won a ribbon. I was naturally athletic, but never really trained for anything and mostly got silver or bronze ribbons. I was, however, very proud of my speed.
In the "100 meter dash" race, I got an "Excellence" ribbon and was quite thrilled. The running events were easy to compete in and so almost everyone did, including the few children in our schooled like Adam. Adam ran hard and was genuinely a pretty fast kid, but tripped over his own awkward feet and fell about half-way through the race. Instead of getting up and continuing to run, he laid there and cried. He wailed! He lay in the dirt, with snot and tears mixing into mud as he sputtered and choked and whined and sobbed. Several teachers came over to try and comfort him, to make sure he was ok and attempt to quell his anguish, but he would not abate.
Eventually, when it looked like the school would have to call his mother to come get him as had so often happened in the past, a kind yet misguided teacher offered him a ribbon for his hard work. She had a bright and shiny Excellence ribbon in her hand as she told him that "It was alright," and "If you hadn't tripped I'm sure you would have earned this!" I was shocked. I had run hard and earned my ribbon, but Adam was given things he didn't earn because he was "special" and because he cried enough.
I went home that afternoon after school was over and told my parents the whole story. My dad sat down next to me, and told me I truly deserved the Excellence ribbon and Adam did not. But, Adam very different and he didn't understand that getting something you didn't earn was meaningless. He told me that the teacher who gave him the ribbon was kind-hearted but also didn't understand that her choice devalued the achievements of everyone else - but not to fault her for wanting Adam to stop crying and to feel like he earned something even if he truly did not. He told me to be proud of myself and not let the actions of others change how I feel about myself.
That day I learned a very valuable life lesson. Some people earn what they have, and others have things given to them which they do not deserve - but that doesn't mean you should stop trying to earn things for yourself. The next day I went over to Adam, who I'm sure was picking his nose and eating the result, and congratulated him on the "Excellent" ribbon he received the previous day. I did it without a single hint of sarcasm and without a snide remark, but looked him in the eyes and told him I was happy for him.
And so now I do the same.
Congratulations URINE, I genuinely hope you enjoy your flag being flown over the CCP headquarters next month. It's a unique honour and I think your Snuffbox logo is quite cool looking - I hope that's the one that you chose to fly!
Have a great day, I'm sure we'll see you guys around in low-sec again :)
lmao
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