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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
998
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:01:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you? Amazing... 
I can confirm that Shadow Cartel only ever shoots frigates and dessies (we sometimes shoot cruisers too but nothing too big and scary)
Would never get anything worth half as much as two whole billion! that would be insane! BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?
I see.
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Major Killz
200
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:50:00 -
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Solo is dead and never existed in this game. SOLO is a STATE OF MIND for true eve on-line sciencetologist.
Also if you're bad at something. Why not cut your losses and do something else? After-all. Trying is for failures, people with low self esteem and people who are still virgins over the age of 14 (just sad).
- killz |

Alien Youth
Exiter Corp
15
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:52:00 -
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IDK what you are doing but i find plenty of ppl to die to in ls. |

JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
112
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Posted - 2013.06.05 02:30:00 -
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Major Killz wrote: and people who are still virgins over the age of 14 (just sad).
held it together until this |

Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
118
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:33:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you? Amazing...  I can confirm that Shadow Cartel only ever shoots frigates and dessies (we sometimes shoot cruisers too but nothing too big and scary) Would never get anything worth half as much as two whole billion! that would be insane!
You guys couldn't even kill an FCON Titan if you tried!
QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |

Leper ofBacon
HELP GRANDMA SMASH HER LEGS IN
20
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Posted - 2013.06.05 08:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.
Attention everyone not pvping in a Tengu or other very expensive ship, it's all over go home Infinity Ziona says you are not really doing pvp. |

Jibin Hok
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.06.05 09:31:00 -
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The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.
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Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
5
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:35:00 -
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Jibin Hok wrote: The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. blah blah I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Do you even read the posts written before you? Since i'm very self centered and the person i like the most is the one in the mirror, i'd like to quote myself:
Mom wrote: If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.
Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.
And btw. even the last sentence is true for you as well.
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Jibin Hok
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
5
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Posted - 2013.06.05 12:11:00 -
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Mother Drone wrote:Jibin Hok wrote: The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. blah blah I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Do you even read the posts written before you? Since i'm very self centered and the person i like the most is the one in the mirror, i'd like to quote myself: Mom wrote: If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.
Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.
And btw. even the last sentence is true for you as well.
Okay yes, maybe it's dead in most parts of space, but it deffinately is not in the warzone. So if someone wanted to do solo pvp, then theres a place for that, so it isn't completely dead. And when i solo pvp, i do it solo. Otherwise i wouldn't be calling it that.
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Hieren Andven
Liberated Planet Development
0
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Posted - 2013.06.05 12:33:00 -
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Well... going by my experience, you will have much success if you start mining in low-sec in a procurer.
So far, this week I've had two people suicide into my drones while trying to attack my 60k tank procurer... |

Voi Lutois
The gaping maw
36
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:12:00 -
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Jibin Hok wrote:The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.
Okay so solo pvp isn't dead as long as you are in a t1 frigate or dessy, great. Doesn't flying the same **** you have been flying since your first week in the game get old? I know it has for me. I would love to still be able to roam around lowsec in a domi or mega or even a cyclone or something and fight small gangs or other solo dudes but it just doesn't work anymore and chances are no gudfights will be had and you will just be pissing your isk away dying 20v1 to a bunch of t1 frigs, dessys, and ec300s.
This game gives me diarrhea. |

Skelee VI
Wraithguard. BricK sQuAD.
26
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:16:00 -
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move to 0.0, no rules! |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1001
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:38:00 -
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Voi Lutois wrote:Jibin Hok wrote:The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.
Okay so solo pvp isn't dead as long as you are in a t1 frigate or dessy, great. Doesn't flying the same **** you have been flying since your first week in the game get old? I know it has for me. I would love to still be able to roam around lowsec in a domi or mega or even a astarte or something again and fight small gangs or other solo dudes but it just doesn't work like that anymore and chances are no gudfights will be had and you will just be pissing your isk away dying 20v1 to a bunch of t1 frigs, dessys, and ec300s. This game gives me diarrhea.
This game isn't wow
You don't progress from frig to battleship like going from lvl 1-60.
And you can roam in a BS, its just hard and a bit based around luck. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
55
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:19:00 -
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Squatdog wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers? I see. No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Pointless and stupid killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1004
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Squatdog wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers? I see. No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.
It doesn't actually work like that though. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Herr Dengler
Turalyon Plus
0
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Posted - 2013.06.24 02:24:00 -
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Jibin Hok wrote:The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.
Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.
True, mate - true. Solo is alive. Faction Warfare space is the place to get a good fight within 15 mins. |

Raptors Mole
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
140
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:04:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Squatdog wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers? I see. No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.
I'd rather kill 1 lion in a straight fight than hunt 1000 rabbits. |

Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
412
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:29:00 -
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STFU you're terrible and you know it.
Infinity Ziona wrote: No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.
http://thewaysofthemew.blogspot.com We are recruiting - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1823364&#post1823364 |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
130
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:36:00 -
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Raptors Mole wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Squatdog wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers? I see. No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning. I'd rather kill 1 lion in a straight fight than hunt 1000 rabbits. Do what floats your boat I guess. Finding a lion thats willing to straight fight you without dropping a whole pride on top of you is gonna be tough though. |

Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
77
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:40:00 -
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Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???
Its normal. Low sec just isnt that heavily populated in most places other than on high sec to low sec entry gates. Then it is often too populated for solo pvp. If you want to roam solo prepare to spend a long time looking for targets. There are some. They are just few and far between.
If you are looking for solo ratters/miners you might be better heading up to a sov holding null sec alliances space. The farther from high sec the more likely you will find people out in space doing things alone. You can also engage people on gates with no consequences. |

Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
975
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:55:00 -
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Disastro wrote:Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? In addition to the plexes mentioned above you should also probably look for folks doing things in belts such as ratting or mining or in scannable anomolies (those sites you can scan without probes with your on board scanner). Realistically you wont find folks doing things like this in every system or even in most systems but if you are roaming around sooner or later you will find someone out in space who is probably in one of these. This is where you might find something expensive and shiny which you can kill with something small and cheap. Someone who is ratting or running an anom might already be tanking a bunch of npc rats when you land on them and your frigate damage might be enough to put them over the edge. Or perhaps you can hold them long enough for friends to arrive. Either way results in happiness for you and tears for them.
Do the npcs start shooting the pirates now? I have a very high amarr standing and still noticed the amarr npcs stop shooting the minmatar mission runner and start shooting me when I enter fw missions. I'm not sure if this is just fw or all rats. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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