Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???

Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???

Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Read up on faction warfare plexes

They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable.

Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003.

Because pvping for fun is totally a silly idea right?

Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???

Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

Solo is far from dead and FW space is the place it is most active in!

Ignore all the bad claiming otherwise. You don't need anywhere near max skills or expensive ships or any of that **** to have fun AND be viable.

Check out any of the FW/pirate blogs and see how they have been doing this stuff for years. The metagame changes in time but you just adapt and keep on having fun. This is EVE you play it YOUR way not some bittervet's who stuck in their ways and don't have the ability to overcome problems so they just crap up the forums putting off the newer players from going out and just trying stuff!

Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..

Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.

As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.

(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore)

I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets.

Your list of war targets in 2009?

Pro tip, if you don't want epeen crunching, don't take yours out and wave it around like you're the **** when you are basically a carebear.

There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to go for bigger targets (Although tbh high sec isn't where you get the truly big targets). But trying to lord over what is and isn't propper pvp when you have hardly pvped at all/Won't post with your main is pretty close to the definition of silly.

To be a bit more "constructive" ...

@ TE You're not doing it wrong and you're doing it wrong at the same time. You just don't get many fights roaming around anymore because almost no one else does. The "vets" amongst PvP'ers rarely leave their home system and prefer to gank the sh*t out of passing travellers (be it solo PvP'er, noobs or PvE'er), therefore crippling low-sec population to where it is now. Which is the second reason for the lack of targets.
Either you keep on roaming over huge distances to get a fight (where the outcome isn't determined before aka bait/cyno/blob) now and then, or you try to hunt your targets in a more aggressive manner (scanning them down) or you play the bait yourself and kill at least one of your targets before you die horribly

You're a few years too late to get PvP by roaming through New Eden.

edit: now with less spelling errors

Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you?

Amazing...

Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.

I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.

Pros -
Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling
Baiting less of a problem
No gate gun aggro
You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are
In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist
Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps

Cons
Requires intel gathering
Requires access to locators
Requires scout
Cant shoot everyone
Nuetrals
You will get hunted by fleets

and people who are still virgins over the age of 14 (just sad).

I can confirm that Shadow Cartel only ever shoots frigates and dessies (we sometimes shoot cruisers too but nothing too big and scary)

Would never get anything worth half as much as two whole billion! that would be insane!

Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.

The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards.
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I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.

Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.

Do you even read the posts written before you?
Since i'm very self centered and the person i like the most is the one in the mirror, i'd like to quote myself:




And btw. even the last sentence is true for you as well.

The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.

Okay so solo pvp isn't dead as long as you are in a t1 frigate or dessy, great. Doesn't flying the same **** you have been flying since your first week in the game get old? I know it has for me. I would love to still be able to roam around lowsec in a domi or mega or even a astarte or something again and fight small gangs or other solo dudes but it just doesn't work like that anymore and chances are no gudfights will be had and you will just be pissing your isk away dying 20v1 to a bunch of t1 frigs, dessys, and ec300s.

This game gives me diarrhea.

So basically you're a Gankbear who is scared of actual PVP and wants to farm no-risk ganks on unsuspecting PVEers?

I see.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.

The people who are saying solo pvp is dead are completely wrong and probably haven't been to the fw zone recently, or been looking at the killboards. I've been living in the fw zone for almost four months and every single time that i've gone out to solo pvp (which is basically the only thing i do now, other than fleets) ive gotten a fight within 15mins. Also, solo pvp is a great way to learn how to actually fly your ship, theres no one to back you up, you make your own desicions instead of having an fc bark orders. I suggest soloing in cheap frigs to start, it's basically 80% of what people fly in the fw zone anyways so it's perfect for getting good fair fights.

Don't let these solo pvp naysayers fool you, there is plenty of solo pvp ripe for the picking.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.

No not really. I have pirated in low. Pirated in null. Done null sec camping with Stain way back. Founded Privateers and did a bit of group roaming with that. Its boring killing randoms. High sec wars are the most interesting because the people you kill know youre hunting them, after a few easy kills you have to use skill, stealth, intelligence and guesswork to catch them. Its a lot more technical and tactical than random roaming ganking a target of opportunity while your corpmates hold your winky for you. Only real test of skill can be had solo while fighting outnumbered 1000+/1 and winning.

I'd rather kill 1 lion in a straight fight than hunt 1000 rabbits.

Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???

In addition to the plexes mentioned above you should also probably look for folks doing things in belts such as ratting or mining or in scannable anomolies (those sites you can scan without probes with your on board scanner). Realistically you wont find folks doing things like this in every system or even in most systems but if you are roaming around sooner or later you will find someone out in space who is probably in one of these. This is where you might find something expensive and shiny which you can kill with something small and cheap. Someone who is ratting or running an anom might already be tanking a bunch of npc rats when you land on them and your frigate damage might be enough to put them over the edge. Or perhaps you can hold them long enough for friends to arrive. Either way results in happiness for you and tears for them.