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Dwyn Nudd
Leisure Mining and Supply Heimatar Fleet Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:48:00 -
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Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? |

Shadow Adanza
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:58:00 -
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If you're in faction warfare space, use the plexes to find fights. Plexes help sort out the pilots as well into your desired engagement ranges and non-faction war players can enter the plexes as well. Only frigates are allowed in novices, t2 frigs/dessies and down in smalls, t2 cruiser down in mediums, and anything in a large. Usually when looking for a fight, I'll go into a novice and most times a neutral or war target will show up to fight within 5-10 minutes. No gates guns to worry about, nothing. And the fact that they have to activate an acceleration gate gives you time to bail should it be a blob. Hey! You're no zombie! |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:02:00 -
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For a beginner, here are the areas you are most likely to find solo/small gang pvp in eve low sec.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Caldari_VS_Gallente#kills24
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Amarr_VS_Minmatar#kills24
You will find many people who you can shoot at gates, though they will probably be more experiences/skilled than you.
Also there are FW plexes that you can scan down with you on board scanner to spawn them, or d-scan to locate targets already in spawned plexes.
There is no shortage of targets in these areas, though in both of those warzones there are hot spots of activity. |

Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:09:00 -
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Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???
In addition to the plexes mentioned above you should also probably look for folks doing things in belts such as ratting or mining or in scannable anomolies (those sites you can scan without probes with your on board scanner). Realistically you wont find folks doing things like this in every system or even in most systems but if you are roaming around sooner or later you will find someone out in space who is probably in one of these. This is where you might find something expensive and shiny which you can kill with something small and cheap. Someone who is ratting or running an anom might already be tanking a bunch of npc rats when you land on them and your frigate damage might be enough to put them over the edge. Or perhaps you can hold them long enough for friends to arrive. Either way results in happiness for you and tears for them. |

Dwyn Nudd
Leisure Mining and Supply Heimatar Fleet Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.01 02:04:00 -
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thanks for the tips guys ill try them out. |

James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:56:00 -
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What you are doing wrong is going solo, CCP hate solo pvp for some reason (????) so just bring more dudes and if you have more dps than the other gang you win. Join a fw corp, don't solo if you don't have perfect skills for the ship tier you are flying (so you don't have to lower the number of targets you can engage). Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:29:00 -
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Yes CCP do hate solo PvP and have tried as hard as possible too eliminate it from the game. To the point that most of your solo fights will be duo fights with one char offgrid boosting.
I found that the best way to solo is war deccing. It eliminates a lot of the anti solo nerfs CCP made. Dec a large alliance 1000 or more, use a scout, find missioners with locator agents, kill missioners by probing them out or waiting other side of mission hub gate.
Pros - Off grid boosting less of a problem while theyre travelling Baiting less of a problem No gate gun aggro You'll always have targets and with locators you know exactly where they are In high people are more spread out and less likely to be two jumps away ready to assist Local is not a super early warning system as much, its clogged with peeps
Cons Requires intel gathering Requires access to locators Requires scout Cant shoot everyone Nuetrals You will get hunted by fleets
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:05:00 -
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Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???
Read up on faction warfare plexes
They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
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Posted - 2013.06.01 14:23:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? Read up on faction warfare plexes They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable. Like I said if he has maxed skills for the ship tier he fly (which I doubt) and good support skills he might get like 30% of fair fights, which is "viable" but why bother? Funny because most fw solo pvp heroes are just killing, most of the time, less than a year/6 months old characters or lp farmers, gee I wonder why? 3l!t3 s0l0 pVp iS vi4bl3 u b4d i U d0n7 4gr33
Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:29:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? Read up on faction warfare plexes They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable. Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003. |

Xander Det89
ROC Academy The ROC
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Posted - 2013.06.01 16:25:00 -
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Don't know what you fly, but if you're minmatar get a dualprop fleet stabber (will probably want 1 nano after odyssey launch) and you'll be able to go wherever you want until you find a choice frig/dessie to nail. It'll need the nano so it can align/warp in unlockable time when you're out their running past gate camps or even in null a fast turnaround is good when you drop in a bubble. It's done well for me... albeit only a done a few trips out but didn't really feel much in danger even when being chased by full gangs with smart tackle, can't play EVE atm while out in Kenya :P |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
961
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:28:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? Read up on faction warfare plexes They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable. Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003.
Because pvping for fun is totally a silly idea right?
As for James your opinion is invalid until you start posting with your main. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:13:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong??? Read up on faction warfare plexes They are the solo pvpers friend. Also ignore all the bads that think solo pvp isn't viable. Viable if you like fighting in frigs dessies and looting nothing worthwhile. Personally I'd rather shoot scord with a basic mining laser and I have't mined since 2003. Because pvping for fun is totally a silly idea right? Fun is fine. Claiming throw away frig or dessie consentual pvp means solo in EvE is alive and well is not though. You can solo in a cruiser and up but the odds your coming home in a pod is about 50/50 cruiser with the odds increasing as the hull gets larger so its not a viable career path in EvE.
To put it in perspective if missions / incursions / plexes / WH or whatever else people in game use to make isk had the same odds of ship destruction they would not be considered viable careers.
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The Djego
Hellequin Inc. Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2013.06.01 22:13:00 -
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Dwyn Nudd wrote:Ok so ill roam for hours and not find anyone to shoot, and when i do find someone in low sec to shoot at there at a gate and ill be taken out by the gate sentrys. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong???
Fly something that can take out targets under sentry gun agro, you know like most low sec pirates do? |

Fret Thiesant
Reavers of New Blood
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Posted - 2013.06.01 22:30:00 -
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Best bet is to use fw plexes as said above cruisers on down is fine.
For null there's a couple viable bc's if you like flying those (learning to navigate and when to engage will take practice though).
BS's tend to be to slow for solo. Back in the day they were viable but the dps smaller hulls do has gone up so much no real point in flying one solo right now. |

Taoist Dragon
No.1 Crazy Fighter Squadron Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.06.01 22:49:00 -
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Solo is far from dead and FW space is the place it is most active in!
Ignore all the bad claiming otherwise. You don't need anywhere near max skills or expensive ships or any of that **** to have fun AND be viable.
Check out any of the FW/pirate blogs and see how they have been doing this stuff for years. The metagame changes in time but you just adapt and keep on having fun. This is EVE you play it YOUR way not some bittervet's who stuck in their ways and don't have the ability to overcome problems so they just crap up the forums putting off the newer players from going out and just trying stuff! That is the Way, the Tao. Balance is everything.
We are recruiting CrAzY Pilots https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235985&find=unread |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.02 00:04:00 -
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Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. |

Taoist Dragon
No.1 Crazy Fighter Squadron Caldari State Capturing
448
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Posted - 2013.06.02 00:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.
LOL thanks for proving my bittervet syndrome perfectly 
Now for anyone who actually thinks the above is true....really you need a viagra shot to the eye's so you can take a good long hard lok at yourselves and stop taking a game too seriously!
For reference I can fly all the shiney ships I want but I gte just as much enjoyment from fighting in lowley T1 frigs where actual player skill is a larger factor in the engagement than me spend 2-3x more isk so I can chestbeat about how '1337' I'm at a game.  That is the Way, the Tao. Balance is everything.
We are recruiting CrAzY Pilots https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=235985&find=unread |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
966
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:40:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.
You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec..
Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main.
As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones.
(Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore) BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Klu Rizen
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.02 02:54:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Solo is far from dead and FW space is the place it is most active in!
Ignore all the bad claiming otherwise. You don't need anywhere near max skills or expensive ships or any of that **** to have fun AND be viable.
Check out any of the FW/pirate blogs and see how they have been doing this stuff for years. The metagame changes in time but you just adapt and keep on having fun. This is EVE you play it YOUR way not some bittervet's who stuck in their ways and don't have the ability to overcome problems so they just crap up the forums putting off the newer players from going out and just trying stuff!
Speaking of blogs, I'm a big fan of the "know your enemy" ones (google it with eve appended). Just know what ships can win over others, based on armor vs shield, range, etc. and know when to run! |

Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2013.06.02 08:34:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.
For you PvP excitiment comes from the hunt. And a hunt isn't worthy if you hunt for small game.
For some PvP excitiment comes from the fight. And the fight isn't worthy if the outcome is decided before engaging.
For some, its about both.
To demonstrate: you wouldn't get a kick from engaging in a 2 billion isk frig with a risk to lose it several times per hour, because you don't like to fight, you like to stalk.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:58:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec.. Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main. As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones. (Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore) I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
969
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:26:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec.. Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main. As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones. (Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore) I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets.
Your list of war targets in 2009?
Pro tip, if you don't want epeen crunching, don't take yours out and wave it around like you're the **** when you are basically a carebear.
There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to go for bigger targets (Although tbh high sec isn't where you get the truly big targets). But trying to lord over what is and isn't propper pvp when you have hardly pvped at all/Won't post with your main is pretty close to the definition of silly. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:58:00 -
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If solo pvp means only frig sized ships in 5% of EvE space then yeah it's pretty dead. You can do it of course but it's the same as regarding lvl 1 missions as a valid ISK income.
Most guys advertising solo pvp aren't doing it solo for the most part.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:19:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens. You sure talk a lot of trash for someone with 1 bill destroyed in total and those were relatively pathetic griefing ones in high sec.. Dare i say another pathetic forum alt? because i'm not quite sure what would be worse, lording about pvp when you know nothing about it or not having the stones to post on your main. As for a 1:1 average frig pvp.. I average about 10:1 these days and getting 20:1 on good ones. (Also, pssst, can dropping doesn't actually work anymore) I don't care about you or your opinion or epeen number crunching. I play for me, I pvp for me. You don't matter unless your on my list of war targets. Your list of war targets in 2009? Pro tip, if you don't want epeen crunching, don't take yours out and wave it around like you're the **** when you are basically a carebear. There is nothing inherently wrong with wanting to go for bigger targets (Although tbh high sec isn't where you get the truly big targets). But trying to lord over what is and isn't propper pvp when you have hardly pvped at all/Won't post with your main is pretty close to the definition of silly. What part of I dont care about your opinion don't you understand? Shouldn't you be increasing your 10:1 frig duelling stats or something ;)
My stats are 7:1 and I fight solo, entire alliances around 1000 vs me. And I do it in billion isk ships. My bio pretty much sums me up. |

Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
4
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:57:00 -
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To be a bit more "constructive" ...
@ TE You're not doing it wrong and you're doing it wrong at the same time. You just don't get many fights roaming around anymore because almost no one else does. The "vets" amongst PvP'ers rarely leave their home system and prefer to gank the sh*t out of passing travellers (be it solo PvP'er, noobs or PvE'er), therefore crippling low-sec population to where it is now. Which is the second reason for the lack of targets. Either you keep on roaming over huge distances to get a fight (where the outcome isn't determined before aka bait/cyno/blob) now and then, or you try to hunt your targets in a more aggressive manner (scanning them down) or you play the bait yourself and kill at least one of your targets before you die horribly 
You're a few years too late to get PvP by roaming through New Eden.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
976
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:55:00 -
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Mother Drone wrote:To be a bit more "constructive" ... @ TE You're not doing it wrong and you're doing it wrong at the same time. You just don't get many fights roaming around anymore because almost no one else does. The "vets" amongst PvP'ers rarely leave their home system and prefer to gank the sh*t out of passing travellers (be it solo PvP'er, noobs or PvE'er), therefore crippling low-sec population to where it is now. Which is the second reason for the lack of targets. Either you keep on roaming over huge distances to get a fight (where the outcome isn't determined before aka bait/cyno/blob) now and then, or you try to hunt your targets in a more aggressive manner (scanning them down) or you play the bait yourself and kill at least one of your targets before you die horribly  You're a few years too late to get PvP by roaming through New Eden. edit: now with less spelling errors That is just not true..
While it is true that the game is absolutely filled with faglords.. a ton of older and good newer pvpers roam every day.. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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KFenn
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
178
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:46:00 -
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If you're not getting enough fights you're simply not risking enough. When you undock a ship for PvP (for solo especially), the best way to get fights is to try and get yourself killed. I mean, you can apply some reason to this but fortune favours the bold in my experience. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade |

Durbon Groth
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:34:00 -
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Before this decends into a squabble about boosting alts, I'll drop in some geographical info that may help you out. As you've heard already, fac war space is great for getting fights. If you want to roam into nullsec, head for NPC nullsec regions such as Syndicate or curse as they're great hotspots for pvp, though finding solo fights may be more difficult. Also watch for bubble camps at the entrances to null. Use the tools available to you. In your map, you can colour starsystems by number of kills in the last hour/day and by number of people in space. If you're looking for targets that may not be prepared to shoot back, head to deep nullsec pockets with around 10-30 pilots in local. You can also see starsystems by number of jumps/hour so you can clearly see well traveled pipes, which are often good to camp. Hope this helps! |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1343
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Posted - 2013.06.04 21:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pointless frig pvp is not solo. Its not even pvp. The ultimate in bad is no risk frig pvp with a 1:1 kill average. Go hunting in a worthy ship like a 2 billion isk T3 and you'll understand. Until then you may as well be dropping cans in a rifter outside Jita or Rens.
Wow. You probably don't even know how fail your post there was, do you?
Amazing... "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
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