Too bad it's ugly ..

I think this is a neat concept and will find its own niche in the game.

Also, BS DPS with BC tank? Tornado is primary, tornado is primary.

Too bad it's ugly ..

I think this is a neat concept and will find its own niche in the game.

I foresee the amarr and gallente ones being underpowered compared to the caldari and minmatar ones. Why? Because you can fit shield extenders much more easily than plates, so you'll end up with the latters having like 25-40% more EHP than the armor tankers.

I foresee the amarr and gallente ones being underpowered compared to the caldari and minmatar ones. Why? Because you can fit shield extenders much more easily than plates, so you'll end up with the latters having like 25-40% more EHP than the armor tankers.

Whilst being somewhat epic, I suspect that these are going to be ridiculously priced.

We had new T3 ships promised some time back, and T3 battlecruisers was suggested. That given that these are coming mean that these are going to be new T3 ships?

GIven that T3 cruisers are 400-500m+ (a cheap Tengu puts you out about 450m at the moment), T3 battlecruisers will probably be about double that. All the people predicting blobfests are either very rich or er... stupid...

Whilst being somewhat epic, I suspect that these are going to be ridiculously priced.

We had new T3 ships promised some time back, and T3 battlecruisers was suggested. That given that these are coming mean that these are going to be new T3 ships?

GIven that T3 cruisers are 400-500m+ (a cheap Tengu puts you out about 450m at the moment), T3 battlecruisers will probably be about double that. All the people predicting blobfests are either very rich or er... stupid...

I foresee the amarr and gallente ones being underpowered compared to the caldari and minmatar ones. Why? Because you can fit shield extenders much more easily than plates, so you'll end up with the latters having like 25-40% more EHP than the armor tankers.

Will this mean these ships have MASSIVE powergrids or a powergrid reduction bonus to large turrets?

cause then you'd just easily fit mediums on the ship then a MASSIVE tank.

Will this mean these ships have MASSIVE powergrids or a powergrid reduction bonus to large turrets?

cause then you'd just easily fit mediums on the ship then a MASSIVE tank.

Will this mean these ships have MASSIVE powergrids or a powergrid reduction bonus to large turrets?

cause then you'd just easily fit mediums on the ship then a MASSIVE tank.

You sort of answered your own question. It's bound to be a powergrid usage bonus on weapons, or you might as well downgrade one gun to medium size and free the powergrid for a massive buffer tank.

If its as fast a cane.....

YES PLEASE

Gimme a nano cane with some 1200mm arty loving and watch me work.


(and it looks like an upside down myrm...sweet)

Suicide gankers have national holiday to celebrate their new toy of doom. Hisec is safe no more.

This also means that the concept of ships having larger guns than usual is possible so this opens a new can of worms at the yards though already doing this with the super batttleships. Who knows maybe ill make a destroyer with cruiser weapons.

Wow, suicide ganking just got a whole lot easier

Good work CCP ( not)

Again a useless ship comming to eve

Just rename the ship to like vagabond 1.6

Good hull bad idea's

Make it a damn armor ship.

battlecruiser with battleship guns........... great, now we'll have even more overuse of alpha fleets.......

Nah they will make gallante shield ( I hope) so you can feel the pain that minmatar suffers:D

... which will get eaten up by smaller ships the BS guns can't hit or track very well.

My god, it is the god damn hi-sec Apocalypse.

does this means i'll get a drake using Torpedoes/cruise missiles?

Good work CCP ( not)

Again a useless ship comming to eve

Just rename the ship to like vagabond 1.6

Good hull but bad idea's

Make it a damn armor ship.

please please please please please PLEASE make the Caldari ship a gunboat!

please please please please please PLEASE make the Caldari ship a gunboat!

1 Drake 125764
2 Hurricane 75625
3 Abaddon 41534
4 Maelstrom 23334
5 Tempest 21203
6 Armageddon 19211
7 Scimitar 15704
8 Dramiel 13395
9 Tengu 11886
10 Cynabal 11416
11 Sabre 11240
12 Hound 10980
13 Rifter 10223
14 Vagabond 9999
15 Zealot 9878
16 Rapier 9524
17 Harbinger 8393
18 Manticore 8291
19 Loki 7464
20 Capsule 7455

I have bolded the pain for you. Those poor Minmatar Shield Bastards are so bad Gallente has refused to show up on the list in protest.

All wormholes to C1 systems just collapsed in fear.

Oh-oh and while we're at it let's add a faction version of said super drake with an extra launcher, mmmm.... (i think i might have just wet myself)

Tier 3, not tech 3.

They will be capable of similar damage output as a battleship but obviously all that damage comes at a price.They wonGÇÿt be able to tank like a battleship, but what they lack in the tanking department the right pilot should be able to somewhat make up for with speed and distance management.

A Battleship with Dread weapons

Why would they be ridiculous, these are tier 3 BCs, they'll have BPOs and BPCs, production will be like any other tech 1 ship.

Also from the dev blog


But a shield hurricane is already ridiculous DPS with little tank but it can actually get this....HIT BCs with medium autos instead of larges.

Yup called an arsenel ship at the yard Beatrix Armed with 1 capital gun and 1 capital launcher.

... which will get eaten up by smaller ships the BS guns can't hit or track very well.

RIP mining industry


Expect a lot of miners to cry.

Nice.

I remember seeing a gallente hull in that ship contest which had a sleek heavy bow... hope they went with that model... where's the contest entries again??

nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?

nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?

Lol,

I just saw high sec get a nerf :D Cheaper ships to gank Freighters and Shiny Faction ships. I like.......

battleship damage output with low tank? What is the point about having that? If I want that, I put Rails on Hyperions without hardeners

Yeah because the tier 3 BC's will totally cost 150m a hull.... and they will totally move at 104m/s

You're thinking of the Naru-Kami, I believe.

RIP mining industry


the tornado and its 3 counterparts will now see the death of the mining industry............ a cheaper suicide ganking ship that can alpha hulks......even well tanked hulks.....

Expect a lot of miners to cry.

Why would these be any better than actual battleships at ganking hulks? BSs are already cheap enough after insurance.

And a helluva lot more costly.

nice boost to jita freighter gankers.

any other uses for those things?

you can fit a BC in an orca, can't fit a BS in an orca

so yes, yes they are

You're thinking of the Naru-Kami, I believe.

Lamest Devblog I have seen in quite some time .. has no content other than confirmation of a rumour. It is the sort of information that should have been a regular dev reply to a relevant thread, not a 'blog'.

Sincerely hope they realise what it will do to Eve to have BC speed/size BS damage/range ships running around at close 100% insurance return. Only way I can see it not breaking everything is if they are made into BC sized destroyers (loads of guns but laughable tanks) and even then its going to upset a crap-load of areas.

Now THAT is a damned nice ship

Me wants, badly.

The Tornado will be a Balltecruiser that fits Battleship Guns.

Read About It:

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3001

So Awesome.

Oh yes please

As for the new BCs being the end of high sec transit... Chances are these new ships will not be doing a large amount more damage than current BCs. Instead the large guns will be more of a tradeoff,sacrificing the cap consumption and tracking advantages of the medium turrets in favor of higher alpha and longer ranges provided by the larger weapons.

CCP needs to be very careful with the introduction of these new ships. Battle Cruisers are probably the most widely used class of ship at the moment while also being very unbalanced tier to tier when compared to battleships and many other ship classes. What I worry about is that tier3s may outclass tier 2s in the same manner that tier 2s outclassed tier 1s. Lets hope CCP goes through the entire BC lineup when introducing these ships to ensure that all BCs retain niche role that is competitive in today's pvp environment

for example: the Drake

What do the Caldari get? Cruise missiles on a BC?

Lamest Devblog I have seen in quite some time .. has no content other than confirmation of a rumour. It is the sort of information that should have been a regular dev reply to a relevant thread, not a 'blog'.

Sincerely hope they realise what it will do to Eve to have BC speed/size BS damage/range ships running around at close 100% insurance return. Only way I can see it not breaking everything is if they are made into BC sized destroyers (loads of guns but laughable tanks) and even then its going to upset a crap-load of areas.

wow this is fail. BC really? Dumbest thing i have ever seen. We need more Battleships since most of pvp is done in BC now ne ways.

the world of eve really needs another vessel whitin the iwinship class to totaly rule them all..... *sigh* such stupidity

before implementing something new you might think they should "balance" and fixa whole lot of things whit the client, spaceshipsstuffs and stuffs?

That's sort of what everything else in this expansion is geared towards?

e,g, cap balancing, new font, FW fixes...

Nice, cant wait to fly one of them.

Med ship with Large guns?

Why would I fly anything else?

To shoot the smaller ships you can't shoot with your medium ship with large guns?

Meh, it's got webs, as well as all your buddies in these things.

Come now. Given a choice of flying this thing, a cane, cyclone,.. What would you fly?

Those fun T1 cruiser gangs peeps take out now for lols? It'd be silly to continue that.

From Amarr I guess we could expect to see neut/nos bonuses. Why bother with a Curse.

Gallente, probably a cheaper and better tanking WD platform,.. ugh.

And the Caldaris, torps &,.. oh God... umm, please tell me CCP are trolling us.

I am hoping to christ for the amarr one to have a neut/nos bonus particularly if it allows you to put heavy neuts on the thing. That'd be a nasty ship.

At first I'm excited. Than I realize it sort of like the sacrilege, but in reverse. Just another sexy ship you'll never undock in. Sure super DPS is nice, but after you lose a couple to rifters it will collect dust.

Oh-oh and while we're at it let's add a faction version of said super drake with an extra launcher, mmmm.... (i think i might have just wet myself)

RIP Nanopest?

Making HAX fleets the weapon of choice against them :)

oh god...

Those Black Legion Muninn gangs would **** them

Nice - I actually suggested BCs with BS weaponry in the old forums a while ago

You're thinking of the Naru-Kami, I believe.

RIP Nanopest?

As one who has experimented with various funny fits, it takes up a lot of PG to fit BS weaponry on a BC. How much? I once put a cruise missile bay into a Cyclone and that took PG upgrade in the lows and there was little else left high-slot wise.

Not a workable fit but it was funny. That's the idea.

Now a BS-sized weapon on a BC?

This is going to be good.

Let's think about this:

1. A BC that can go into most wormholes (depending on the armor or shield modules - hate finding that out that the wrong time) and deal more damage to sleepers. I don't think that this will make BCs able to solo wormhole Classes higher than 1 to 3 (T2 BCs can do 4 and I have heard 5 solo) but will make it much easier.
2. A Tier 3 BC will not be able to rat in 0.0 much more effectively.
4. If you have the skills to solo a level 4 in a Drake or Myrm, imagine what you can do with a Tier 3?

What I am hoping for are two things:

1. That the weapons capability is not specific to a weapons bonus, leaving those of us who want more tank than spank - or more afterburner - with the extra power to do it.
2. That this also means BS-sized missile bays.

more important issues(shouts) LIKE FIXING THE GODDAM GAME!