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EXZODIER
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:55:00 -
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The short bus squad - forced to kill
The short bus squad has finally come to the point of its life where we have to tell the story of how every day
we are being forced to kill innocent members of the eve community.
We as a corp. do not see concord as the rulers of 0.4 and below and as needed we police our own space (lower domain and providence)
pirating by corps in this area is rare as we generally kill and move on any unsociable types.
our problem started when PIE declared that they wanted to claim the area as there space and there home and began attacking our members in our space
now the short bus took action on this and we battled many battles. before being invited down into stain space to help with various problems they were having
upon completion of our task we came home to find that CVA had been formed and along with huzzah had decided to move into the area and lay claims to our space
and this is where the problem really started. CVA being a industrialised alliance decided to use the market in this region. before we left there was little
to no trade as we the bus provided everything we needed in our space. but CVA could not do this and so set up various buy and sell orders in the area, this caused
people to come into our space to trade with them this caused problems as we were actively fighting them and still our trying to remove them from the area, the easiest
way for us to do this is to keep them constantly fighting and take away there source of income, The traders had to die we tried to stop them coming with various markers
and the map provides Intel on killing in the area yet they still come and CVA still encourages them to come along with various others that they ask here to help them fight us
(also we recon about 50% of all neutrals killed are CVA & friends Alts)
So we here at the Short Bus are asking you not to see us as pirates but to see us as fighters from the oppression of an alliance who use there friends to force us away from our home
Thank you for reading
EXZODIER
THE SHORT BUS
The SUdden Death Squad
<is this the end >
I THINK NOT 
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Galvanos
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Posted - 2005.10.31 22:23:00 -
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You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions.
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EXZODIER
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Posted - 2005.10.31 22:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Galvanos
You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions.
/me looks at the 4 wars we are currently fighting
dont speek unless u know what your on about - best way to win a war is take away your oponents money and weapons
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gozetec2002
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Posted - 2005.10.31 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Galvanos
You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions.
Wow I remember this corp declaring on a 10 member industrial corp called Democratic Union so you can get 50 mil isk but thats not terrorism is it? You ask why we dont fight CVA Directly. Perhaps you should look at our active wars. Its also known to traders in the area the inharent risk that going into low security space entails. CVA and Huzzah know what this is about this is mainly for people who are uninformed and they can rest assured that many more wars are to come. The forums are good to keep people informed but perhaps people should do a little research before they make a post.
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Galvanos
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Posted - 2005.10.31 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: gozetec2002
Wow I remember this corp declaring on a 10 member industrial corp called Democratic Union so you can get 50 mil isk but thats not terrorism is it? You ask why we dont fight CVA Directly. Perhaps you should look at our active wars. Its also known to traders in the area the inharent risk that going into low security space entails. CVA and Huzzah know what this is about this is mainly for people who are uninformed and they can rest assured that many more wars are to come. The forums are good to keep people informed but perhaps people should do a little research before they make a post.
I am in no way trying to say claim a moral high ground over you. We at Lordless make no attempts to say we are anything other than Mercs and Pirates. What I am pointing out is that your claim that you wish you didn't have to kill all these innocents is absurd. If you didn't want to kill them you would find away around it. Don't try to pretend you're all high and mighty when you're actions are no better than a pirates.
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 31/10/2005 23:01:38
Blah, nevermind, didnt read the entire thread.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: EXZODIER
our problem started when PIE declared that they wanted to claim the area as there space and there home and began attacking our members in our space
It is not OUR space, It is the soverign territory of the Amarr empire, and scum like you are not welcome there.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: EXZODIER
(also we recon about 50% of all neutrals killed are CVA & friends Alts)
87.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 09:53:00 -
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Interesting.
It is true, that CVA have got far too complacent in the area of space they have claimed along with their Huzzah rats. And it is also true that the only people to pirate upon UK members when down in providence was Huzzah itself.
This is worth investigating.
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Just a simple warrior.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Interesting.
It is true, that CVA have got far too complacent in the area of space they have claimed along with their Huzzah rats. And it is also true that the only people to pirate upon UK members when down in providence was Huzzah itself.
This is worth investigating.
Can you pass the spliff please m8
El Presedente
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niveneh
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Posted - 2005.11.01 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: niveneh on 01/11/2005 12:34:07
Edited by: niveneh on 01/11/2005 12:33:44
I still think the name of your corp "The Short Bus Squad" suits you more then well  
yes....,this is a alt posting 
...so what are you going to do about it ...  |
Oosel
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Posted - 2005.11.01 13:26:00 -
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ive always thought mista kheram and misaba were such nice places to visit and trade.......in future i will be in and out of there quick sharpish and hope to avoid any bother
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:34:00 -
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So I guess the question is, are TSBS pirates? Pirates are traditionally a group who shoot anything that passes in 0.0 and low sec space. Territorial fighters defend their borders. A fine line seperates the two.
Firstly I would say that I am an advocate of open borders where possible but realise that this is not always possible because of resource issues, undesirables etc.
Secondly it is only fair to say that the view of Ushra'khan is that TSBS are pirates. Having known the effectiveness of CVA propoganda there is a slim possibility that TSBS are the victims here.
What would be the criteria that would define TSBS as pirates as opposed to a territorial group like other warring alliances?
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Just a simple warrior.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:40:00 -
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Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you.
Or look at the sec status of the CEO? 
El Presedente
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Ankh'Ses
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:45:00 -
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Thank you, Exzodier, my only wish is that people will listen, but in the end it is their choice. Those with closed minds will see the small picture, and indeed call us pirates. For those that see the larger picture, I thank you and invite you to support our cause.
For me the continual fight brings a much deeper point to heart. While I applaud Ushra'Khan for their public stance against CVA and their allies, I do feel their approach is hindered politically. I myself, and many other Matari in TSDS have no such hinderance, and will shoot any "neutral" suspected of aiding the CVA or its allies.
Bestowers Beware..
As a result people may call me a pirate or a griefer, I don't really care, as the Khumaak I wear and the memories I honour will always keep me on track.
Ankh'Ses
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:47:00 -
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To sa***uard our interests as an honest corp our CEO has had to take severe sec status hits forcing him to no longer be able to operate where he used to be able to.
We all thank him for his good work in keeping CVA and their allies out of our home systems.
Deciept as a skill was a major part of you becoming so high in the ranks of CVA was it not?
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you.
Or look at the sec status of the CEO?
OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space.
And then come back and tell me the difference.
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Just a simple warrior.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Merkin
To sa***uard our interests as an honest corp our CEO has had to take severe sec status hits forcing him to no longer be able to operate where he used to be able to.
We all thank him for his good work in keeping CVA and their allies out of our home systems.
Deciept as a skill was a major part of you becoming so high in the ranks of CVA was it not?
It sure was as I happen the lead the Huzzah alliance.
El Presedente
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Hans Roaming on 01/11/2005 14:53:00
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you.
Or look at the sec status of the CEO?
OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space.
And then come back and tell me the difference.
Mista is .5 amarr and Kheram is .4 amarr space in the Domain region.
Actually you can do that in CVA and Huzzah space.
El Presedente
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 01/11/2005 14:53:00
Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you.
Or look at the sec status of the CEO?
OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space.
And then come back and tell me the difference.
Mista is .5 amarr and Kheram is .4 amarr space in the Domain region.
Actually you can do that in CVA and Huzzah space.
OK, go over to low security in the Empire system that BOB is pounding to death and let me know how you get on?
And i have been attacked by Huzzah in their space without warning.
So, as of yet, i still see no difference.
SBS can answer me this tho. If CVA and Huzzah sued for peace, would you still pursue assets in Empire?
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Just a simple warrior.
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:13:00 -
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Not really my place to say. Since I joined the TSBS I have been part of our defence as best I can with my limited skills..
all I have seen and heard is that we want our space back..
though that is just from my experience... CVA must have made a great many people in tsbs very bitter towards them what with rampaging around killing our members on sight since long before I joined.
If I had put up with this kind of treatment like the elder members have I am sure I would wish for some kind of renumeration.
Please forgive me if I missed your point there and dont take what my opinion is for granted, there are far wiser people in the corp to answer your question than me.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
OK, go over to low security in the Empire system that BOB is pounding to death and let me know how you get on?
And i have been attacked by Huzzah in their space without warning.
So, as of yet, i still see no difference.
SBS can answer me this tho. If CVA and Huzzah sued for peace, would you still pursue assets in Empire?
Bob have said Arida is off limits, so an alt wouldn't survive their, Ushra'Khan wouldn't open fire in the low sec space they control and niether do CVA or Huzzah. In fact the coridoor is open to all except pirates and hostiles, other alliances I cannot speak for.
You have been fired upon since Ushra'Khan have been KOS for a while, lets not go into the reasons back and forth here as they have been covered, but that is why you got shot at.
Our policy has been publically posted on this, it's what we stand by and practice.
El Presedente
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:20:00 -
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Actually we have fired in low security space we patrol, and we have fired in high security space. I remember being chased around by concord for killing a slaver in Amarr. Slavers get theirs in the end no matter where they are.
So, the definition of a pirate is someone who fires on neutrals in Empire space?
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Just a simple warrior.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 15:34:00 -
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It's a good start, there would be more to it than that as the motive is what makes a pirate however in order to accomplish their goals they have to fire upon neutrals to do it.
In your case you consider Amarr slavers to be an enemy and thus when you fire upon them you are not commiting piracy per say for profit you are freeing slaves and thus are not pirates.
El Presedente
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:16:00 -
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In this case the motive being destroying your ships and neutrals the suspect of being aligned to you?
If they did this in 0.0 it would be fine (as most of the 0.0 alliances do so) but as its in Empire its not?
Not that im agreeing with either party here. Just trying to find the truth under all the propoganda.
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Just a simple warrior.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:20:00 -
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Members of the established empire training corporations and universities, but with no employment or bounty hunting history clearly have something to hide when travelling in 0.0 or low sec space. I would not blame any alliance for shooting them out of the sky. I would do the same if I felt it was putting a fleet at risk.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:28:00 -
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Try any member of any corp in a hauler, don't take our word for it ask around the corps who live or pass through there or look on their killboards, why do you think this is the third war between TSBS and Huzzah?
El Presedente
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:41:00 -
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killboard linky?
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Just a simple warrior.
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.11.01 16:48:00 -
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This is the TSBS website am not sure if it's set to public access or not but the killboard link is on the left.
El Presedente
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2005.11.01 17:01:00 -
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wow!!
we have a website... thanks for the link I was wondering where that was!
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