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EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.10.31 21:55:00 - [1] The short bus squad - forced to kill The short bus squad has finally come to the point of its life where we have to tell the story of how every day we are being forced to kill innocent members of the eve community. We as a corp. do not see concord as the rulers of 0.4 and below and as needed we police our own space (lower domain and providence) pirating by corps in this area is rare as we generally kill and move on any unsociable types. our problem started when PIE declared that they wanted to claim the area as there space and there home and began attacking our members in our space now the short bus took action on this and we battled many battles. before being invited down into stain space to help with various problems they were having upon completion of our task we came home to find that CVA had been formed and along with huzzah had decided to move into the area and lay claims to our space and this is where the problem really started. CVA being a industrialised alliance decided to use the market in this region. before we left there was little to no trade as we the bus provided everything we needed in our space. but CVA could not do this and so set up various buy and sell orders in the area, this caused people to come into our space to trade with them this caused problems as we were actively fighting them and still our trying to remove them from the area, the easiest way for us to do this is to keep them constantly fighting and take away there source of income, The traders had to die we tried to stop them coming with various markers and the map provides Intel on killing in the area yet they still come and CVA still encourages them to come along with various others that they ask here to help them fight us (also we recon about 50% of all neutrals killed are CVA & friends Alts) So we here at the Short Bus are asking you not to see us as pirates but to see us as fighters from the oppression of an alliance who use there friends to force us away from our home Thank you for reading EXZODIER THE SHORT BUS The SUdden Death Squad <is this the end > I THINK NOT
Galvanos	Posted - 2005.10.31 22:23:00 - [2] You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions.
EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.10.31 22:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Galvanos You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions. /me looks at the 4 wars we are currently fighting dont speek unless u know what your on about - best way to win a war is take away your oponents money and weapons HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
gozetec2002	Posted - 2005.10.31 22:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Galvanos You sir, are nothing more than a terrorist. You claim loft goals as an excuse for targetting non combatants. If you truly wished to be the honorable party you would have us believe you are, then you would take the fight directly against CVA. But no, you choose the cowards way out and continue to assualt simple traders who want nothing more than to make their livelihood. I make no assumptions on whether or not CVA has done you wrong, but you are certainly doing no right in your current course of actions. Wow I remember this corp declaring on a 10 member industrial corp called Democratic Union so you can get 50 mil isk but thats not terrorism is it? You ask why we dont fight CVA Directly. Perhaps you should look at our active wars. Its also known to traders in the area the inharent risk that going into low security space entails. CVA and Huzzah know what this is about this is mainly for people who are uninformed and they can rest assured that many more wars are to come. The forums are good to keep people informed but perhaps people should do a little research before they make a post.
Galvanos	Posted - 2005.10.31 22:44:00 - [5] Originally by: gozetec2002 Wow I remember this corp declaring on a 10 member industrial corp called Democratic Union so you can get 50 mil isk but thats not terrorism is it? You ask why we dont fight CVA Directly. Perhaps you should look at our active wars. Its also known to traders in the area the inharent risk that going into low security space entails. CVA and Huzzah know what this is about this is mainly for people who are uninformed and they can rest assured that many more wars are to come. The forums are good to keep people informed but perhaps people should do a little research before they make a post. I am in no way trying to say claim a moral high ground over you. We at Lordless make no attempts to say we are anything other than Mercs and Pirates. What I am pointing out is that your claim that you wish you didn't have to kill all these innocents is absurd. If you didn't want to kill them you would find away around it. Don't try to pretend you're all high and mighty when you're actions are no better than a pirates.
0Virtu0	Posted - 2005.10.31 23:00:00 - [6] Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 31/10/2005 23:01:38 Blah, nevermind, didnt read the entire thread. ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature.
Redwolf	Posted - 2005.10.31 23:00:00 - [7] Originally by: EXZODIER our problem started when PIE declared that they wanted to claim the area as there space and there home and began attacking our members in our space It is not OUR space, It is the soverign territory of the Amarr empire, and scum like you are not welcome there.
Redwolf	Posted - 2005.10.31 23:04:00 - [8] Originally by: EXZODIER (also we recon about 50% of all neutrals killed are CVA & friends Alts) 87.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 09:53:00 - [9] Interesting. It is true, that CVA have got far too complacent in the area of space they have claimed along with their Huzzah rats. And it is also true that the only people to pirate upon UK members when down in providence was Huzzah itself. This is worth investigating. - Just a simple warrior.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 12:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Interesting. It is true, that CVA have got far too complacent in the area of space they have claimed along with their Huzzah rats. And it is also true that the only people to pirate upon UK members when down in providence was Huzzah itself. This is worth investigating. Can you pass the spliff please m8 El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
niveneh	Posted - 2005.11.01 12:33:00 - [11] Edited by: niveneh on 01/11/2005 12:34:07 Edited by: niveneh on 01/11/2005 12:33:44 I still think the name of your corp "The Short Bus Squad" suits you more then well yes....,this is a alt posting ...so what are you going to do about it ...
Oosel	Posted - 2005.11.01 13:26:00 - [12] ive always thought mista kheram and misaba were such nice places to visit and trade.......in future i will be in and out of there quick sharpish and hope to avoid any bother
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:34:00 - [13] So I guess the question is, are TSBS pirates? Pirates are traditionally a group who shoot anything that passes in 0.0 and low sec space. Territorial fighters defend their borders. A fine line seperates the two. Firstly I would say that I am an advocate of open borders where possible but realise that this is not always possible because of resource issues, undesirables etc. Secondly it is only fair to say that the view of Ushra'khan is that TSBS are pirates. Having known the effectiveness of CVA propoganda there is a slim possibility that TSBS are the victims here. What would be the criteria that would define TSBS as pirates as opposed to a territorial group like other warring alliances? - Just a simple warrior.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:40:00 - [14] Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you. Or look at the sec status of the CEO? El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Ankh'Ses	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:45:00 - [15] Thank you, Exzodier, my only wish is that people will listen, but in the end it is their choice. Those with closed minds will see the small picture, and indeed call us pirates. For those that see the larger picture, I thank you and invite you to support our cause. For me the continual fight brings a much deeper point to heart. While I applaud Ushra'Khan for their public stance against CVA and their allies, I do feel their approach is hindered politically. I myself, and many other Matari in TSDS have no such hinderance, and will shoot any "neutral" suspected of aiding the CVA or its allies. Bestowers Beware.. As a result people may call me a pirate or a griefer, I don't really care, as the Khumaak I wear and the memories I honour will always keep me on track. Ankh'Ses
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:47:00 - [16] To sa***uard our interests as an honest corp our CEO has had to take severe sec status hits forcing him to no longer be able to operate where he used to be able to. We all thank him for his good work in keeping CVA and their allies out of our home systems. Deciept as a skill was a major part of you becoming so high in the ranks of CVA was it not?
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Hans Roaming Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you. Or look at the sec status of the CEO? OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space. And then come back and tell me the difference. - Just a simple warrior.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Captain Merkin To sa*uard our interests as an honest corp our CEO has had to take severe sec status hits forcing him to no longer be able to operate where he used to be able to. We all thank him for his good work in keeping CVA and their allies out of our home systems. Deciept as a skill was a major part of you becoming so high in the ranks of CVA was it not? It sure was as I happen the lead the Huzzah alliance. El Presedente** Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 14:53:00 - [19] Edited by: Hans Roaming on 01/11/2005 14:53:00 Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Originally by: Hans Roaming Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you. Or look at the sec status of the CEO? OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space. And then come back and tell me the difference. Mista is .5 amarr and Kheram is .4 amarr space in the Domain region. Actually you can do that in CVA and Huzzah space. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 15:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Hans Roaming Edited by: Hans Roaming on 01/11/2005 14:53:00 Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Originally by: Hans Roaming Create an alt, jump in a hauler and fly from Mista to Kheram whilst they are 'guarding' the gate. Question answered in the time it takes for a sniper BS to lock and volley fire you. Or look at the sec status of the CEO? OK, You jump in an alt get in a hauler and run thru any 0.0 alliance controlled space. And then come back and tell me the difference. Mista is .5 amarr and Kheram is .4 amarr space in the Domain region. Actually you can do that in CVA and Huzzah space. OK, go over to low security in the Empire system that BOB is pounding to death and let me know how you get on? And i have been attacked by Huzzah in their space without warning. So, as of yet, i still see no difference. SBS can answer me this tho. If CVA and Huzzah sued for peace, would you still pursue assets in Empire? - Just a simple warrior.
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.01 15:13:00 - [21] Not really my place to say. Since I joined the TSBS I have been part of our defence as best I can with my limited skills.. all I have seen and heard is that we want our space back.. though that is just from my experience... CVA must have made a great many people in tsbs very bitter towards them what with rampaging around killing our members on sight since long before I joined. If I had put up with this kind of treatment like the elder members have I am sure I would wish for some kind of renumeration. Please forgive me if I missed your point there and dont take what my opinion is for granted, there are far wiser people in the corp to answer your question than me.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 15:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino OK, go over to low security in the Empire system that BOB is pounding to death and let me know how you get on? And i have been attacked by Huzzah in their space without warning. So, as of yet, i still see no difference. SBS can answer me this tho. If CVA and Huzzah sued for peace, would you still pursue assets in Empire? Bob have said Arida is off limits, so an alt wouldn't survive their, Ushra'Khan wouldn't open fire in the low sec space they control and niether do CVA or Huzzah. In fact the coridoor is open to all except pirates and hostiles, other alliances I cannot speak for. You have been fired upon since Ushra'Khan have been KOS for a while, lets not go into the reasons back and forth here as they have been covered, but that is why you got shot at. Our policy has been publically posted on this, it's what we stand by and practice. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 15:20:00 - [23] Actually we have fired in low security space we patrol, and we have fired in high security space. I remember being chased around by concord for killing a slaver in Amarr. Slavers get theirs in the end no matter where they are. So, the definition of a pirate is someone who fires on neutrals in Empire space? - Just a simple warrior.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 15:34:00 - [24] It's a good start, there would be more to it than that as the motive is what makes a pirate however in order to accomplish their goals they have to fire upon neutrals to do it. In your case you consider Amarr slavers to be an enemy and thus when you fire upon them you are not commiting piracy per say for profit you are freeing slaves and thus are not pirates. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 16:16:00 - [25] In this case the motive being destroying your ships and neutrals the suspect of being aligned to you? If they did this in 0.0 it would be fine (as most of the 0.0 alliances do so) but as its in Empire its not? Not that im agreeing with either party here. Just trying to find the truth under all the propoganda. - Just a simple warrior.
Maggot	Posted - 2005.11.01 16:20:00 - [26] Members of the established empire training corporations and universities, but with no employment or bounty hunting history clearly have something to hide when travelling in 0.0 or low sec space. I would not blame any alliance for shooting them out of the sky. I would do the same if I felt it was putting a fleet at risk.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 16:28:00 - [27] Try any member of any corp in a hauler, don't take our word for it ask around the corps who live or pass through there or look on their killboards, why do you think this is the third war between TSBS and Huzzah? El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 16:41:00 - [28] killboard linky? - Just a simple warrior.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.01 16:48:00 - [29] This is the TSBS website am not sure if it's set to public access or not but the killboard link is on the left. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.01 17:01:00 - [30] wow!! we have a website... thanks for the link I was wondering where that was!
Galvanos	Posted - 2005.11.01 18:22:00 - [31] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Actually we have fired in low security space we patrol, and we have fired in high security space. I remember being chased around by concord for killing a slaver in Amarr. Slavers get theirs in the end no matter where they are. So, the definition of a pirate is someone who fires on neutrals in Empire space? No, they are firing on ANYONE entering that space because they MIGHT be helping out CVA. It's not like they have a list of corps and alliances to ignore and a list to attack, they just shoot first and don't even bother to ask questions.
EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.11.01 19:48:00 - [32] 1 - u can see our website - or the 1 that is in development here THE SHORT BUS 2 Quote: the easiest way for us to do this is to keep them constantly fighting and take away there source of income, The traders had to die we tried to stop them coming with various markers and the map provides Intel on killing in the area yet they still come and CVA still encourages them to come along with various others that they ask here to help them fight us ai i say here - we do not claim not to shoot non-agressors or war targets in our space - But i do say that we do this with reason - it is a simpel seige situation - cut of local supplies and they have to go out to get them - it is simpel as this if u look at the map for kills it will show u whats going on and take this post as a warning - IF U GO IN TO LOWER DOMAIN U WILL GET SHOT BY TSBS FORCES - the only time this will not happen is if u have permision to go there Thanks for readin EXZODIER TSBS TSDS (sorry for spelling - and thanks for the limit of smack in this post) HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Gaven Lok'ri	Posted - 2005.11.01 20:39:00 - [33] First. TSBS has always been a pirate organisation. The CVA only targeted them because they moved in and proceeded to shoot anyone that moved. For example, they have in the past attacked one Shira, of anti-slavery movement fame. I dont see her helping PIE... ever. PIE took exception to this and kicked TSBS out of Amarran space this time last year. They went and joined the newly forming Stain Empire. PIE took them off the KoS list. A few months later, they returned and immediately started shooting everyone they could without any words. It is only recently that they have tried to change tact from calling themselves pirates to calling themselves freedom fighters. Second. I suggest Khaldorn you review your allies policies. You see, many huzzah run missions for Amarr. Some of your allies are a tad indiscriminate when targeting people they see as Amarran supporters. As a result they see your illustrious alliance as pirates and shoot you. If TSBS says they only started shooting non-war enemies with their engagement with PIE, they are lieing to you. They shoot neutrals, because they are sociopathic scum who like bloodshed and are too stupid to realise that shooting everyone just makes more enemies than you can handle. God is with us.
Graelyn	Posted - 2005.11.01 20:43:00 - [34] HAAHAAHAAHAAHAA! finally stops My money says U'K are dumb enough to believe it too. Wow...hehheh....hoo.... Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia Fleet Admiral/CEO - The Aeternus Crusade
EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.11.01 21:35:00 - [35] Quote: PIE took exception to this and kicked TSBS out of Amarran space this time last year. They went and joined the newly forming Stain Empire. PIE took them off the KoS list. LOL - kicked us out LOL - we moved out to help stain of our own reasoning and for an alliance that lays claims to our space and has declared war on us we dont see u around much anymore- where are CVA hideing ? HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2005.11.01 21:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I suggest Khaldorn you review your allies policies. You see, many huzzah run missions for Amarr. Some of your allies are a tad indiscriminate when targeting people they see as Amarran supporters. As a result they see your illustrious alliance as pirates and shoot you. They are Amarrian supporters then. Which has shown itself to be only to obvious by now. We could argue forever about who shot who first. They are your direct supporters now. That is all that matters. - Just a simple warrior.
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2005.11.01 22:12:00 - [37] Interesting to read the POW of a TSBS member regarding the history of lower Domain and the connecting patch of Providence. I was there when the first shots of this long conflict were fired, and have been heavily involved in enforcing loyalist control in the area, so I guess it is only fair I add another POW to the thread for the neutrals. Before we initiated Operation Deliverance, the strategic relocation of PIE fleet into lower Domain, reports had been coming in regularily concerning the high levels of lawlessness in and around the Misaba system, trailing all the way through the low sec systems up to Mista and Gemodi. At the time, PIE was growing in strength, our other conflicts were proceeding well, and we saw our chance to strike at this nest of vipers, a chance to open up a part of the Amarr Empire for the common citizen. The initial push into the Deliverance area was a great success, and within no more than a week or two, we had stamped our authority on the area, crushing all who opposed us. Our demands were simple. All piracy in the Deliverance area, including the closest connecting patch of 0.0 space in Providence, would cease. The area was to be opened up for all to travel freely and industrial explotation by anyone who wished. Race or standing was never even mentioned, we did this for the Empire, to turn a desolate and lawless part of the Realm into a place where trade could again take place, and the laws of the Emperor would be respected. Those who chose not to agree to our terms can claim no other stance than one of low greed, and a complete lack of nobility or respect for the Imperial Throne. It is amusing then to read EXZODIER's POW, confirming our initial classification of TSBS, and the now defunct Soul Cartel as pirate elements, to be correct. I am certain my former brethren in PIE will not mind me informing the public of some of our strategic goals concerning the Campaign we undertook, as time has pretty much made this obvious by now in any case. For a period of time PIE would patrol and police the systems of lower Domain, inviting honest corps to the area, organising the locals together to better be able to combat the lowlifes who inevitably will seek out low sec space to pursue their own malicious intents. After a few months, Huzzah Federation approached the CVA, moving into the area before transforming into an actual alliance. In essence, PIE had reached its goal, after months of constant conflict with roaming marauders, those who would see space open and free for all were now better prepared than ever to defend the area. The overall goal of the Operation Deliverance campaign would change however, as CVA presence was still very much needed to keep the balance of power firmly on the side of the righteous. The CVA claimed R3-K7K, the neighbouring systems, and the pocket beyond X-R3, in essence initiating the start of Operation Citadel, the fortification of lower Domain and Providence. Ironically, our longtime friends and allies in the Huzzah Federation came into conflict with the Ushra'Khan, a sworn enemy of the CVA. The reason for this, despite the spin some might try to put on it, was members of the HF being fired upon by U'K pilots due to their high standing with the Amarr Empire. The irony of this situation still frustrates me, as both alliances claim a strict anti-piracy stance, and today stand on opposite sides of the conflict. As of today I am not directly involved in what goes on down in lower Domain, or the running of the CVA, but I hope the POW from a former PIE member might help neutrals make up their minds on who to support in the struggle for control of the area in question. If there is one conflict in EVE that can be classified black and white, Good vs Evil, it is this one. I will leave the reader to make up his own mind as to who is what. Long live the Empire. ---------------------------------------------- Sic Transit Gloria

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EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.11.02 09:10:00 - [39] Quote: In essence, PIE had reached its goal, after months of constant conflict with roaming marauders, those who would see space open and free for all were now better prepared than ever to defend the area. If PIE's Goal was to remove Us being the people you have earlier refered to us pirates (wich were not- we just dont want people setting up a market or supplying CVA and there hand holding girlie friends with stuff) - then you are far from it, this is your 1st war with us and yet we only see the same 5-10 members of CVA in and around our space - and with your friends loseing 4 corps from there alliance since the start of OUR major war campign, i can see your battle is far from over, if u dont want them to die, TELL THEM NOT TO COME, Lower domain is TSDS space, you are not welcome here, people dont go into hed-gp or pf-346 becasue it has people that will shoot them - kherham i the same just dont get there and you wont get shot, we arent hunting them - they come to us, THE MARKET IS CLOSED ! HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
KIATolon	Posted - 2005.11.02 10:43:00 - [40] I'd be interested to know how my noob alts shuttle in syndicate was oppressing you to the point you (well one of your corp members) felt the need to use lethal force?
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.02 10:55:00 - [41] Originally by: KIATolon I'd be interested to know how my noob alts shuttle in syndicate was oppressing you to the point you (well one of your corp members) felt the need to use lethal force? The CVA/Huzzah cronies and slavers constantly have spy shuttles in our home systems.. these must be removed on sight to protect our fleets.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.02 11:22:00 - [42] Some corps and players leave, some corps and players join, war does that and I've noticed churn in our enemies too, it isn't over until it's over. To those on both sides that join and stay my respect goes to you. To all who are intested, look at the TSBS kill lists and make your own mind up as to them being pirates or not, they don't want anyone but themselves and Priory in the area. Alliances are self sufficient and there are ways to smuggle high tech items past any blockade so the market argument is mute also the potential market in hush sec is huge compared to any in low sec and so the claim of starving producers of income is a fallacy. TSDS and The Priory pirate in the area as per their agression pact, we are the anti thesis of that and hence the war. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2005.11.02 15:03:00 - [43] Originally by: EXZODIER [f PIE's Goal was to remove Us being the people you have earlier refered to us pirates (wich were not- we just dont want people setting up a market or supplying CVA and there hand holding girlie friends with stuff) - then you are far from it, this is your 1st war with us and yet we only see the same 5-10 members of CVA in and around our space - and with your friends loseing 4 corps from there alliance since the start of OUR major war campign, i can see your battle is far from over, if u dont want them to die, TELL THEM NOT TO COME, Lower domain is TSDS space, you are not welcome here, people dont go into hed-gp or pf-346 becasue it has people that will shoot them - kherham i the same just dont get there and you wont get shot, we arent hunting them - they come to us, THE MARKET IS CLOSED ! you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you need to form up an alliance to face us.... you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... why don't you just stop "closing the market", retract the war and lead a law abiding life like all the others around? because as long as you don't there will always be CVA pilots to punish you for your deeds. being a window licker is no excuse!
Garreck	Posted - 2005.11.02 15:12:00 - [44] Edited by: Garreck on 02/11/2005 15:12:24 chuckles Surely the arrogance of these pirates knows no bounds. The increasing number of engagements in Mista (vice Kheram) speaks volumes to me of our progress in this war. Such discussions are purely academic, though. Empty claims in a public setting accomplish little...I'll be content to understand the strategic reality of this war, and I'll be content to continue my patrols against these villians. Make no mistake who the hunted are. Come and die, pirates. Garreck Aku. Soku. Zan.
EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.11.02 15:18:00 - [45] Quote: you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you need to form up an alliance to face us.... you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... why don't you just stop "closing the market", retract the war and lead a law abiding life like all the others around? because as long as you don't there will always be CVA pilots to punish you for your deeds. being a window licker is no excuse! Now this is where i fall of my chair and smack my head on the floor and not realy care coz im laughting so much 1- you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you need to form up an alliance to face us.... 1- the allaince has been on the go for some time just needed the skills trained to form it 2- you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... 2- 3- you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... 3-a you decalred on us (fool) 3-b we dont shoot innocent haulers - they are told not to go in our space if they listen then they dont go pop - 3-c u guys die just as easy as the haulers we have always shot at u guys sentry guns or not why don't you just stop "closing the market", NO as its an easy way of stoping u guys getting isk and supllys easy retract the war NO u declared on us and lead a law abiding life like all the others around? NO why should we live by your rules because as long as you don't there will always be CVA pilots to punish you for your deeds. well for an alliance with many members there dosent seem to be that many pilots in the space they claim to rule over (i wouldent say its there space coz its not it is ours - we just want them to leave ) being a window licker is no excuse (please retarct this comment as i find it offensive) HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Garreck	Posted - 2005.11.02 15:29:00 - [46] Methinks Master Bromide struck a chord... Garreck Aku. Soku. Zan.
Ethidium Bromide	Posted - 2005.11.02 15:36:00 - [47] Originally by: EXZODIER 2- you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... 2- ha, the last word was mine on that point at least infidel! Originally by: EXZODIER 3- you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... 3-a you decalred on us (fool) aehm... well you have the last word on that one then infidel... Originally by: EXZODIER well for an alliance with many members there dosent seem to be that many pilots in the space they claim to rule over (i wouldent say its there space coz its not it is ours - we just want them to leave ) looks like we don't need more than 5-10 around lower domain tbh.. oh and it's amarr space and as you might have realized we take our role as defenders of the amarr empire, its people and assets very serious! Originally by: EXZODIER being a window licker is no excuse (please retarct this comment as i find it offensive) done that as there is a soft heart in every slavers breast...
EXZODIER	Posted - 2005.11.02 16:32:00 - [48] Quote: Originally by: EXZODIER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2- you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... 2- WOOPS - copy pate dident work - WE shoot u all the time thats why u declared war on us - so u can shoot back - if anything its u guys that are soft coz u wont face the sentry guns to get at us - and as for shooting haulers see original post HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Solusar	Posted - 2005.11.02 16:36:00 - [49] Originally by: Captain Merkin Originally by: KIATolon I'd be interested to know how my noob alts shuttle in syndicate was oppressing you to the point you (well one of your corp members) felt the need to use lethal force? The CVA/Huzzah cronies and slavers constantly have spy shuttles in our home systems.. these must be removed on sight to protect our fleets. Please send any proof of CVA members using neutrals to scout and im pretty sure they will be removed from the alliance within about 3 seconds, we do not stoop to such levels to gain victory. However we do have your alt in a cov ops following us around most of the time, and we dont come here to moan about it. As for it only being 5-10 of us, look at your kills and loses and rethink your statement, after last week I think you should be praying more CVA do not come down to Lower Domain in the near future.
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.02 17:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Solusar Edited by: Solusar on 02/11/2005 17:04:38 Originally by: Captain Merkin Originally by: KIATolon I'd be interested to know how my noob alts shuttle in syndicate was oppressing you to the point you (well one of your corp members) felt the need to use lethal force? The CVA/Huzzah cronies and slavers constantly have spy shuttles in our home systems.. these must be removed on sight to protect our fleets. Please send any proof of CVA members using neutrals to scout and im pretty sure they will be removed from the alliance within about 3 seconds, we do not stoop to such levels to gain victory. However we do have a neutral in a cov ops following us around most of the time, and we dont come here to moan about it. As for it only being 5-10 of us, look at your kills and loses and rethink your statement, after last week I think you should be praying more CVA do not come down to Lower Domain in the near future. Oh dont be a chump my dear slaver.. How would it be possible to provide evidence that can be so easily denied.. There are constantly shuttles (I struggle to remember the names of them whilst offline), that sit 150km off from the gates of Mista to Kheram and also Mista gate - Murzi. I have gone through a gate before only to see the shuttle pilot come through behind me some 30 seconds later and then follow me to station only to see 4 or 5 Huzzah appear 15km from him at a range from the station (not docking range) Now as these pilots are in Neutral corps it is impossible for us "prove" that they are your alts other than by witnessing their actions and scouting. I have not had the pleasure of an even fight (either way) though when not outnumbered the fights have been great fun :)
Solusar	Posted - 2005.11.02 17:46:00 - [51] Please note I am CVA not Huzzah. Also you were there in the fight the other day when we went up against bigger ships than we had and came out ontop rather easily. Id talk to your friend FKN Cire about his associate FKN Arson that continually follows us around in a Covert Ops.
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.02 17:50:00 - [52] Originally by: Solusar Please note I am CVA not Huzzah. Also you were there in the fight the other day when we went up against bigger ships than we had and came out ontop rather easily. Id talk to your friend FKN Cire about his associate FKN Arson that continually follows us around in a Covert Ops. Was that the fight when the server crashed? If it was then I recall we only had 3 cruiers and a bs, against a rather mixed lot of crusiers. Good fight till it crashed however, never did see what happened after I changed missile types :(
Chiralos	Posted - 2005.11.03 01:53:00 - [53] Originally by: EXZODIER CVA being a industrialised alliance decided to use the market in this region. before we left there was little to no trade as we the bus provided everything we needed in our space. but CVA could not do this and so set up various buy and sell orders in the area, this caused people to come into our space to trade with them this caused problems as we were actively fighting them and still our trying to remove them from the area, the easiest way for us to do this is to keep them constantly fighting and take away there source of income, The traders had to die we tried to stop them coming with various markers I was slightly concerned that trading on the open market down near Misaba might be aiding TSBS. But if you're actively trying to destroy trade then obviously I have nothing to worry about. Thank you for clearing this up.
Redwolf	Posted - 2005.11.03 10:44:00 - [54] Originally by: Captain Merkin Originally by: Solusar Please note I am CVA not Huzzah. Also you were there in the fight the other day when we went up against bigger ships than we had and came out ontop rather easily. Id talk to your friend FKN Cire about his associate FKN Arson that continually follows us around in a Covert Ops. Was that the fight when the server crashed? If it was then I recall we only had 3 cruiers and a bs, against a rather mixed lot of crusiers. Good fight till it crashed however, never did see what happened after I changed missile types :( Your posts make me laugh. You had 2 BC (ferox and Proph) a rupture and a sniping megathron. We had 2 frigs (1 AF) and 3 cruisers. We were on our way back to the gate to collect the loot when the server died.
Captain Merkin	Posted - 2005.11.03 11:58:00 - [55] hmmm not exactly how I remember what I was of it but hey whatever... we lost ;)
Robocop	Posted - 2005.11.03 21:57:00 - [56] Short Bus 4tw i Ride It every day to misaba to Fight Huzzah
aim9xcite	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:51:00 - [57] Quote: No, they are firing on ANYONE entering that space because they MIGHT be helping out CVA. It's not like they have a list of corps and alliances to ignore and a list to attack, they just shoot first and don't even bother to ask questions. I died laughing at that one......first of all we are friends with Stain Empire and Stain Alliance as well as the Red Alliance, The Five, and certain corps that come through the area......all of which are blue to us. And I will admit we have shot at some alt haulers of friends, which we corrected. As for being pirates I dont think we ever denied it, but we were never kicked out of that area. The Short Bus left that area to join the Stain Empire with the help of MASS. After the fall of CA we got bored and all mutually agreed to move back to kheram. When I left that area (at the time i was in Celestial Cartel) I didnt even know who CVA or Huzzah was. Never even seen them in that area. Also at the time I had a character who was in Stain Allaince (before the exodus patch) and had not ever heard of CVA or Huzzah. As for the tactics of these two alliances I respect some and others I do not, some members of Huzzah are almost outlaws and have bountys. Explanation is all in the name of the Amarr Empire. Now I take responsibility for my security status and know that I am a free target for anyone to shoot at, however (since I cant post kill mails) I warped to the mista gate in kheram (misnamed a bookmark) and was fired upon by one Huzzah member in a Taranis and a member of Aegis Militia also in a Taranis. Being the tard that I am I set off my smart bomb before the Aegis Militia member agressed me forcing the sentrys to take action. I was held there until my ship blew up and was also podded. This really didnt bother me as the kill mail stated the Amarr Navy laid the final blow. I posted it on our kill sight and awhile later checked the Huzzah forums and there was the kill mail with the Huzzah member being named as the one who laid the final blow. I do not repsect people who have to alter kill mails to make themselves look better. Believe what you want about us, this is a game and we are here to have fun. Respect to certain pilots in Huzzah, CVA on the other hand Im still not to sure about. saddest day in EVE by far is when my sec rating went positive..(but not anymore)......giggles
Fkn Arson	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:59:00 - [58] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you need to form up an alliance to face us.... I thought I told you guys they were doing that long before the war started O_O, information must flow easily, you guys need to get your network together. Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... They've podded me a few times, its what being a pirate is about in this game I would think, war targets or not. Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... I'll have to ask, but they declared war on Huzzah I believe, you guys and that other shadow corp have declared on them. Originally by: Solusar Id talk to your friend FKN Cire about his associate FKN Arson that continually follows us around in a Covert Ops. Me and Cire don't get along, friends is a tentitave word, ask cire if you want, he hates me though, I whoop him at UT2k4 :P. Also, you guys should update your TSBS member/alt list, he's getting tired of you calling me his alt.
Fkn Arson	Posted - 2005.11.03 22:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you need to form up an alliance to face us.... I thought I told you guys they were doing that long before the war started O_O, information must flow easily, you guys need to get your network together. Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us all the time, still you start shooting innocents as you won't face us.... They've podded me a few times, its what being a pirate is about in this game I would think, war targets or not. Originally by: Ethidium Bromide you say you only see 5-10 of us, still you need to declare war on us as you cannot gank us as you can innocent haulers.... I'll have to ask, but they declared war on Huzzah I believe, you guys and that other shadow corp have declared on them. Originally by: Solusar Id talk to your friend FKN Cire about his associate FKN Arson that continually follows us around in a Covert Ops. Me and Cire don't get along, friends is a tentitave word, ask cire if you want, he hates me though, I whoop him at UT2k4 :P. Also, you guys should update your TSBS member/alt list, he's getting tired of you calling me his alt.
Golan Trevize	Posted - 2005.11.04 02:28:00 - [60] From:TES Maelstrom Zealot Class. Location:New Caldari *EVIL CHUCKLE* Ha ha ha the delusions of these crimininals.. Well said my Protege¦Kador.........you hit the nail on the head..i hope soon i will have a moment to spare so i can come and teach these weaklings a lesson....ill even do it for free....or let us say my own satisfaction.... Golan Trevize The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Krystian	Posted - 2005.11.04 06:16:00 - [61] TSBS fighters and not pirates? Amusing. I have met very few among them that would be considered pure fighters. Hmm come to think of it I have never met any that would be considered "just" that. They have been pirates since our corp came down to lower domain/providence. We were not even allied with any organizations and they opened fire upon us. They care not whom they fire upon and twist words in a pale effort to persuade UK to join their cause now. It amuses me that their Minmatar member starts openly speaking of himself as Matari. You can thank your pestery firing TSBS as a factor of our corp joining Huzzah. They helped us against TSBS as did CVA. We never wanted to join the "Fighter" corp, ie TSBS. Well good work, keep up your amusing propaganda as always gentlemen, TSBS never stops to make me laugh. Your the modern day jesters for Amarrian royalty. Ceo Kahn Krystian The Blood Moon Horde
aim9xcite	Posted - 2005.11.04 11:32:00 - [62] Hans you guys really need to get a spokesman for the forums because some members of Huzzah and CVA dont know how to answer a forum without bashing, which sounds really....childish. Keep it on the battlefield in the game, not on the forums. If you feel the need to respond to this post you need to take a break from eve. saddest day in EVE by far is when my sec rating went positive..(but not anymore)......giggles
Thermal	Posted - 2005.11.04 11:40:00 - [63] Edited by: Thermal on 04/11/2005 11:46:44 Sometime people sleep threw life with out ever waking from it. There was an organization called the mafia, they did what they did, lived by their code and died by their code, people would call them criminals simply because they did not understand them and their way of life. Does that make it wrong because you or others deem their actions to be wrong ? No, they believed in what they did and lived by their code as we (TSBS) do. You nor anyone else has any right or justification to say what we do in our world is wrong. If you do not like it then do not come around our systems. We have many alliances and corps that are friends to the bus and enjoy flying freely threw our space at will. You choose to condemn us while others know and accept us the way we are. Hippocrates in your own right, we do not log off during fights, we do not claim to be a superior race (and race specific) then turn around and use other races technology (sad to see CVA flying around in gellente ships). It would seem we all have questionable actions here, stop casting stones slaver dogs until you clean up your own backyard. See you in space, Bring a ship that can stay connected this time.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.04 11:58:00 - [64] After becomeing leader for the past week I really do need a break from eve, never had so many convo's in my life Firstly I'm going to make a seperate announcement about your kill mail, I've been unable to get hold of a third party to confirm or deny and our guy said he posted as he got it, however will publically apologise to you and TSDS anyway as no one has a motive to lie and I've known you and BTK for a while now and you're sound people, anyway that is for another thread so please hold your comments on the subject until I post it later today. Huzzah has a spoksmen on the forums in the form of Angry Dan and myself and you know my policy on smack and bashing, my opnion is if someone has to smack or bash an opponent then they belittle themselves and the alliance. CVA is a seperate entity from Huzzah who we are allied with, their communication policies are their own. Thermal likening oneself to the Mafia says it all as they might have had all the qualities you said however they persued their goals with disregard to the laws set down in their host society. If you guys didn't pirate we'd have to persue peace between our two organisations and where would be the fun in that. And stop calling us slavers, my personal assistant's youngest sister Hearee Minjita has a Matari boyfriend called D''haft' 'K'hun't'' and such a relationship is hardly consistant with an alliance that is pro slaver. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2005.11.04 12:41:00 - [65] Edited by: Yarek Balear on 04/11/2005 12:42:41 Originally by: Hans Roaming Huzzah has a spoksmen on the forums in the form of Angry Dan and myself and you know my policy on smack and bashing, my opnion is if someone has to smack or bash an opponent then they belittle themselves and the alliance. CVA is a seperate entity from Huzzah who we are allied with, their communication policies are their own. Is that the leader of Huzzah implying that CVA are smacktards outwith the control of Huzzah and not under their anti-smack policy ? Hmmmmm... Originally by: Hans Roaming If you guys didn't pirate we'd have to persue peace between our two organisations and where would be the fun in that. So by definition Huzzah support piracy, because peaceful life is boring. Interesting stance - I agree completely
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Yarek Balear Is that the leader of Huzzah implying that CVA are smacktards outwith the control of Huzzah and not under their anti-smack policy ? Hmmmmm... Originally by: Hans Roaming If you guys didn't pirate we'd have to persue peace between our two organisations and where would be the fun in that. So by definition Huzzah support piracy, because peaceful life is boring. Interesting stance - I agree completely It's the leader of Huzzah saying that CVA are not under under the control of Huzzah policies and have their own polices, nothing more and nothing less, I don't recall ever hearing of CVA pilots smacking in local to be honest. We're an anti pirate organisation and the observation that having no one to fight with would be boring doesn't condone piracy. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:28:00 - [67] Heading up an anti-pirate organisation who are supposed to believe that pirating is something that should be erradicated should mean that if pirates were completely dissolved that you would have won outright and achieve your goals. It sounds to me that the false logic being applied by Huzzah is that pirates are necessary for you to survive in your current anti-pirate guise and by definition you do not actually wish to achieve your own goals as this would mean self-distruction. Indeed, defining your existance by theirs is truly what is going on here. The stronger pirates are, the stronger the need for the mothering breast of the anti-pirate alliance, increasing your own strength. What the proles in your organisation fail to see is that you feed off the strength of the pirates and the fear of your own people to further your own ambitions and have no intention of destroying that which feeds you the most - piracy.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.04 13:42:00 - [68] There will always be pirates and those that fight them, as long as there are those that prey on the weak there will be a need for the likes of us to exist. If we eradicate piracy in the regions of domain, tash-murkon and Providence well there is a whole galaxy to eradicate piracy from. If that is accomplished it doesn't mean the end of the reason for the alliances existance. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
BaD PaPPa	Posted - 2005.11.06 17:53:00 - [69] i'm afraid to bust your bubble. TSBS is nothing but a bunch of gate camping gankers. They careless what corp you are in they just won't a place they can gank and not worry about being attacked by a equal numbers and Huzzan is doing the right thing and running them out of the area. TSBS run and ss unless they out number you 6-1
Xavier W	Posted - 2005.11.06 18:48:00 - [70] post with your main, then talk smack... ok? --------------------------------------------------
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2005.11.06 21:10:00 - [71] Originally by: BaD PaPPa i'm afraid to bust your bubble. TSBS is nothing but a bunch of gate camping gankers. They careless what corp you are in they just won't a place they can gank and not worry about being attacked by a equal numbers and Huzzan is doing the right thing and running them out of the area. TSBS run and ss unless they out number you 6-1 I'm afraid I disagree, they may lack discrimination when selecting targets and be our enemy but they don't lack courage when it comes to battle, we've had some very good fights with them. El Presedente Anti Pirate? Tired of sec hits? Join us for free wars!
Luminara Jedrick	Posted - 2005.11.06 23:12:00 - [72] fine words from a respectable adversary.... *Luminara Jedrick salutes Huzzah Federation
gozetec2002	Posted - 2005.11.07 18:39:00 - [73] àa wise general makes a point of foraging on the enemy as one load of enemy provisions is worth 20 of his own and likewise a pound of his provisions is worth 20 from his own storeà Sun Tzu Ancient Earth Warrior
Krystian	Posted - 2005.11.07 18:52:00 - [74] As a master of the better part of valor (lmao) I have to agree in this case. TSBS are difficult opponents but I am never bored fighting them. Infact I only go after them when I can either find them and I have a chance in hell or they are in strong enough numbers to wake me up from my usual ratting and form a hunting gang. In the art of war you must at least believe you have a numerical/tactical adventage, something both sides seem to understand. Ceo Krystian The Blood Moon Horde
Kreeper	Posted - 2005.11.07 20:14:00 - [75] Good fights with Huzzah! havent played much but everytime we do fight it is a good one. ----------------------------------------------- Smother another Failur Lay this to rest...
LordMordred	Posted - 2005.11.09 00:29:00 - [76] I have just returned from a deep learning sleep of 6 months (Iraq). I was a member of the Soul Cartel in the Nympho Space Badgers during the first conflicts with PIE. NSB was reasonable at that time for the patrol of the Hibi to Mamet route. Fought many battles and had great fun. But Legion fell apart, and the Short Bus was taking up the call to arms sent by MASS. Having flown with many Short Bus members I left of own free will for a even greater, and far more costly conflict. But the reward of nonstop action and gaining experience against some of the best EVE can to throw at you was more than worth it... it was true fun. Once CA fell though we became bored and shortly before Mordred went into a deep sleep we decided that it was time to go home. When the move took place though I was already gone. The first day I awoke ( logged in) a few days ago; I hopped in my Raven and Zealot and few from KP-FQ1 60 some jumps deep in Stain straight to Kheram and engaged the enemy with all intent to kill. The last four days have seen gains and loses. But I added up my mails and the patrols I have lead gave more than we have gotten all engagements combined. As I shake off the rust and get use to the new changes in warfare (such as the EW) you can except termination to come quicker and with increasing efficenticy. The bottom line is, think of us as you will. I'll still kill you if I see you in our space or die trying. Lord Mordred Director of the Window Licking. So many Pods.... AAArrrrrh Ship max targeting limit reached. ~Lord Mordred Short Bus.... YAAAAAAAAAAAAY Just because my wingmen have left, does not mean I will surrender. To the death for the Empire! Stain Empire
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2005.11.09 04:24:00 - [77] Edited by: Frakri Hogsto on 09/11/2005 04:24:12 LOL... Can I have permission to travel through CVA space please? From TSBS that is......
Kreeper	Posted - 2005.11.09 15:25:00 - [78] Hey Frak! ----------------------------------------------- Smother another Failur Lay this to rest...
Mah Kraah	Posted - 2005.11.09 18:58:00 - [79] thy for the deeper insight of this conflict. the UK council is always in demand of information to base our decisions on.
Angry Dan	Posted - 2005.11.15 23:31:00 - [80] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I suggest Khaldorn you review your allies policies. You see, many huzzah run missions for Amarr. Some of your allies are a tad indiscriminate when targeting people they see as Amarran supporters. As a result they see your illustrious alliance as pirates and shoot you. They are Amarrian supporters then. Which has shown itself to be only to obvious by now. We could argue forever about who shot who first. They are your direct supporters now. That is all that matters. Well, we wanted to stay neutral, but [UNITY] seemed to think otherwise. Our pilots can operate and subcontract to any lawful organisation they choose, be it Amarrian, Caldari, Gallente or even Minmatar. We encourage freedom of choice, freedom of expression and the freedom to live lawfully as you choose. As an allaince, our mutual defence agreement only covered anti piracy activity in Domain and Providence. That was until Ushra'Khan attacked us in force. At no point has Ushra'Khan tried to open a diplomatic channel with Huzzah Federation on any matter. We actually let Ushra'Khan corps move unmolested ofr about a week, till they blew the crap ouit a supply convoy in S9X-AX. Thats when Ushra'Khan got themsleves made KOS about a year ago. All the pushing towards getting us involved in your dispute has been from [UNITY]. We were applying diplomatic pressure with regards to slavery. Given Ushra'Khans attitude and unrequited piracy, Thats going to change. And would you like to know what the most important thing is? It's the truth. Try and spin it any way you want, but the truth is the truth. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Ulath Safire	Posted - 2006.01.02 14:14:00 - [81] ok you say all this tripe and bluster, you say your freedom fighters, then why, why have your decleared on tcor? you say you can't declear on other alliances cause your at war with so many others, well then why don't you bunch of pirates undeclere on small corps like tcor ans then you'll be able to fight the other alliances.
aim9xcite	Posted - 2006.01.02 19:53:00 - [82] Originally by: Ulath Safire ok you say all this tripe and bluster, you say your freedom fighters, then why, why have your decleared on tcor? you say you can't declear on other alliances cause your at war with so many others, well then why don't you bunch of pirates undeclere on small corps like tcor ans then you'll be able to fight the other alliances. If you want to know why convo our ceo BornToKill, he would be happy to explain. And we are not at war with any "big alliance" atm, but those that we are at war with like mom and pop are very good opponents and deserve respect for their tactics and willingness to fight, stay in the game, and not whine. saddest day in EVE by far is when my sec rating went positive..(but not anymore)......giggles
Klyde	Posted - 2006.01.02 21:58:00 - [83] Edited by: Klyde on 02/01/2006 21:59:10 Quick.. To the Bat Cave!!! .......................... Any posts made by me are by me and should never reflect those of my corp unless otherwise specified.
Layrex	Posted - 2006.01.03 01:00:00 - [84] From my recollection of when I played down in Prov, you guys just sat there on a gate with priory all day long just killing everything you could.
Logan Xerxes	Posted - 2006.01.03 01:04:00 - [85] Edited by: Logan Xerxes on 03/01/2006 01:03:13 Originally by: Klyde Edited by: Klyde on 02/01/2006 21:59:10 Quick.. To the Bat Cave!!! No, to the bus stop! And Layrex, look at the TSBS vid before you flame them for doing nothing but gate camps ok? Originally by: Balrog Valarauko Iknew a guy back in high school that was from Romania I think. His name was Anus. No joke...poor kid.[/qu
Ange1	Posted - 2006.01.03 01:53:00 - [86] Originally by: Layrex From my recollection of when I played down in Prov, you guys just sat there on a gate with priory all day long just killing everything you could. I've seen them roam. ======================= The Establishment is at your service...
Layrex	Posted - 2006.01.03 02:03:00 - [87] Edited by: Layrex on 03/01/2006 02:02:32 Of course they did, and they were great guys to play with. But they shouldnt say bullsh** like they were forced into the position of being gankers, cos for 70% of the time they gatecamped with priory.
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2006.01.03 15:16:00 - [88] Originally by: Graelyn HAAHAAHAAHAAHAA! finally stops My money says U'K are dumb enough to believe it too. Wow...hehheh....hoo.... they are dumb in that they think their actions don't make THEM look like pirates. plus they might want work with short bus against their enemies. so if they can prove to their few non-pirate members that short bus aren't rat-brats then they can work with short bus if the time comes. UK aren't dumb per-say, just not good at hiding their pirate member corps. Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=242744
Maggot	Posted - 2006.01.03 15:35:00 - [89] Provide your Evidence No pirates in U'K. TSDS however is most definitely operating a closed border policy to anyone other than their allies. U'K is currently on their KOS list and vice-versa.
TeamBETAalpha	Posted - 2006.01.03 23:55:00 - [90] Originally by: Frakri Hogsto Edited by: Frakri Hogsto on 09/11/2005 04:24:12 LOL... Can I have permission to travel through CVA space please? From TSBS that is...... Well holy ** if it isnt my buddy, think you could email me back sometime you nubbit. And I agree, ever since our corp joined tsbs I havent gotten bored yet, they tend to fight anything and are very couragable. Never thought Id meet a group as crazy as ours but guess I was wrong, maybe not insane but hey I will give them crazy. As for you frak, you unloggin *, HOW THE HELL R YA! YAR MATEY, come to kbp and northern prov sometime and hang out with me and TeamBETAzeus sometime dude, sit back, kill , talk ** maybe and have a good time sometime! WOOT, and btw Your beloved raven (Frakri's Lover) finally bit the dust dude, I flew her well but got stupid Ever seen my sister, looks like me...would ya like a kiss?
TeamBETAalpha	Posted - 2006.01.03 23:58:00 - [91] Edited by: TeamBETAalpha on 03/01/2006 23:59:20 Yar, hats off to Battle Angels, some tough Biznatches, but I sure love to fight them. Same with mommies as well. Not everyday you get to fight someone who fights back. I am gettin tired of handing my raxes to dee though, but hey whats a rax or two right, gave ya my raven the other day as well...and the new one I got after that to mommies, can somebody say scout But give credit where to, TSBS are a good group, they fight when needed no matter what. And Im no pireet, Im a roid protector Ever seen my sister, looks like me...would ya like a kiss?
LordMordred	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:44:00 - [92] SAVE A ROID TODAY! Pirates? Where be pirates? (Yarrrr!) Cough.
Marko Debreault	Posted - 2006.01.04 06:49:00 - [93] The moment Sally entered his office Marko knew something was wrong. She looked normal to the casual observer, but years of partnership had given Marko insight into her moods. A slight tension in her shoulders betrayed her. Under her arm she carried a contract dossier. But the Battle Angels weren't on contract. What was this, then? Wordlessly she handed it to him. Their eyes met for a second, and he knew without being told that the Battle Angels were at war. He flipped open the dossier and saw the Concord sanctioned war announcement. The SUdden Death Squad Alliance had declared war on the Battle Angels. His brow furrowed incredulously. The Angels had been keeping their fighting skills up between contracts by destroying Pod Pilots with outlaw status, and that had included a fair number of members of The SUdden Death Squad. But their response was unforeseen. A war declaration on the Battle Angels? It was a very bold decision. And a very foolish one, he thought. "Well . . . this is unexpected." He studied the dossier. "They're based out of Assah and Dihra? Very well. Distribute this dossier to the Angels. I want ships moved immediately. Purchase bookmarks for Derelik as well." "Do you want to get an office near Assah?" she asked. "Yea, lets do that." He paused to think. "Make sure it has a cloning facility. This one is going to get messy."
Redwolf	Posted - 2006.01.04 13:19:00 - [94] Have fun Battle Angels, I know we did

Eshtir	Posted - 2006.01.04 16:16:00 - [95] Last reminder before you i will take actions. Stay In-character and follow the forum rules. forum rules \| [email protected] Yulai, we have a problem!

Captain Merkin	Posted - 2006.01.04 18:30:00 - [96] Although I have not encountered many of the battle angels myself as I have been busy elsewhere, the corp talks about you with respect for your willingness to engage and combat ability. We look forward to more engagements and the corpse collectors will be working overtime in space this year.
LordMordred	Posted - 2006.01.04 21:29:00 - [97] As Lord Mordred walks angerly down the halls of the Imperal Armaments Station is Assah, he is informed by a member of his flagships crew that another ship was just destroyed in G-5EN2. "That damnable Covert Ops ship keeps setting us up, picking off stranglers. Inform the CEO at once, and notify all other fleet commanders of their position. Also, prepare to undock, I will be returning the POD shortly." "Yes sir." Lord Mordred is disturbed by the striking efficenticy at which the Battle Angels have been able to use their Covert Ops in tandum with a device that allows them to seemly disappear from the universe althougher and reappear at will to pick off fleet stragglers. .... Now jacked into the POD he sets a course for the G-5EN2 system to attempt to engage the Battleangles. As the ship drops out of warp to enter the jump gate he recieves a transmission stating they are gone again. A loud thump is heard coming from within the pod, as if someone had hit the side. .... To be continued.
Randay	Posted - 2006.01.04 22:06:00 - [98] Ninja... VANISH! A puff of smoke swallows Randay and carries him off on the winds. An evil cackle can be heard from high above... ------------------------------------------- "Det hSr kan betyda krig!"
Leilani Solaris	Posted - 2006.01.05 10:42:00 - [99] After a month break from the killing to regather her head Leilani walks in to the Battle Angels office. With a few "welcome back" message left on the answer phone, she knew it was time to kick some pirate ass. ps. im not so good at role play http://bapwn.eve-killboard.net/
Siobhan	Posted - 2006.01.05 15:28:00 - [100] Good luck Battle Angels - I am sure you won't need it however -------------- Avenging Angel --------------
Crzycnck2	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:35:00 - [101] Edited by: Crzycnck2 on 05/01/2006 20:43:15 Walking down the corridors of the Battle Angels Offices, Crzycnck2 enters her office. She is alerted to a flashing red light on her communications computer. Ignoring that for now, she walks over to her well stocked and very well hidden bar, grabs a tumbler and fills it with ice. She then fills the glass with the very strong but smooth Amarrian Ice Whiskey. She reaches her comm. Computer and sees there is a message from Marko Debreault. Caption ôWar!!ö Crzycnck2 thinks ôWARà weÆre not on contract.ö With an amused smile she opens the transmission while taking a big gulp of her drink and sure enough there is MarkoÆs image. ô The Sudden Death Squad Alliance has declared war on the Battle Angels..." As Marko is going over the 'finer' details of our preperations Crzy notices a contract dosier in her "in tray" which turns out to be the war declaration "... Mobilize at once and prepare to move ships to our outpost. Due to possible integrity issues we will disclose our outpost location over our TS Communications System. This is NOT a Drill!!!ö Crzycnck2 speaks to herself. ôWell, well, they got tired of us killing their pirate members, this will be fun.ö With a big grin and a small laugh she sets out eagerly to prepare for the upcoming war with a toast. ôTo all that will fight and die in this war, I salute you.ö Crzy logs onto her communications computer and sees that her clone is up to date and all her ships are indeed insured. As she downs her second glass of Amarrian Ice Whiskey in one shot she downloads all her maps for the Deviod and Povidence regions and set off to her ships. As she leaves the office she sees Scorps walking down the hall, they both speak quickly regarding the war, give each other a high five and smile looking forward to the upcoming carnage. Battle Angels Gather, They Warp In, Guns Engage, Ships Die.
Jezala	Posted - 2006.01.05 21:51:00 - [102] Just out of curiosity, how many war decs does TSDS have going at the moment and with whom? Anyways, glad to have you all in Providence. Hope you're here to stay for a bit. Please include exotic dances, the blue pills, and amarrian slaves in your cargo hold as it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Osiris Occido	Posted - 2006.01.05 22:29:00 - [103] In the dark, Osiris Occido ponders to himself. These****y bastards, ganking us in KBP and G-5 and then jumping back into empire for safety. It seems we have uncovered some new resistance. Osiris flushes the toilet and leaves the washroom, torn with rage and frustration he cannot remember if he washed his hands or not. Well no matter. He approaches his CEO's office, and flags down BTK in the hall. "BTK, I wanted to talk to you about this Battle Angels situation..." "No need to say anything," BornToKill remarks, "I've got it all taken care of." BTK with a smirk, hands Osiris a freshly printed doctrine of war. Osiris reads the news to himself below the TSDS letterhead. Osiris's eyes raise from the doctrine and meet BTK's, a sinister smile covers both of their faces. "Oh hell yes." Word is quickly spread, and all the directors quickly sign off on the doctrine, as BTK submits it to the Concord representative visiting onsite from the Yulai solarsystem.* "Please expedite this, and here is a little something for yourself." The representative from Concord thanks BTK for his offering, but being a man of unbias professionalism, refuses profusely. Though as the room thickens with BTK's heralded staff of directors, and other no-good-cut-throats tards, the gentleman from Concord releases a sigh, gives a convincing smile, thanks TSDS for their hospitality, and accepts BTK's offering. Shortly thereafter, the news hits alliance mail like a shot. "The SUdden Death Squad declares war against Battle Angels Inc." Cheers as far away as Dihra and Dital are faintly heard within the halls of TSBS HQ. Osiris chuckles to himself thinking about at what these so-called great paid pirates could be thinking as they received the urgent mail from Concord regarding our sanctioned war declaration against their kind. Mixed images of panic and*****iness run through Osi's his mind. As he leans back in his desk chair, he reaches down and pulls out his new hi-tech video capturing devise from his bottom drawer. "This should be a series of remarkable battles," he says out loud to no one in particular. Making sure the power supply checks out, he approaches his private hanger and checks to insure all ships are fitted, insured and equip with the latest in video capturing technology. Even a small capsule-cam is fit within the walls of the escape hatch. Radioing to his cryogenics representative in Nakah, he receives confirmation that his biogenetic replacements are in order. Osiris returns to his quarters for a well-needed rest. "Their arrogance will be their undoing," he reminds himself. Knowing full well the depth of talent that his enemy possesses, he knows it will take all his and his alliance's knowledge and skill to defeat them. Our guard cannot be let down. Osi peacefully drifts to sleep, for tonight at least, filled with confidence in knowing where his place will be when the final shellcase floats out to the great galaxy unknown TSBS Video Vault \| 24 videos to date, and counting \| clickage
Osiris Occido	Posted - 2006.01.05 22:33:00 - [104] Originally by: Jezala Just out of curiosity, how many war decs does TSDS have going at the moment and with whom? Anyone can pull this up ingame. Just click on the Corporation icon in your neocomm, and there should be an political or war tab, i forget. You can search for any alliance/corporation to see who is at war with whom. TSBS Video Vault \| 24 videos to date, and counting \| clickage
Sable Terrick	Posted - 2006.01.06 01:39:00 - [105] Originally by: Thermal Edited by: Thermal on 04/11/2005 11:46:44 Sometime people sleep threw life with out ever waking from it. There was an organization called the mafia, they did what they did, lived by their code and died by their code, people would call them criminals simply because they did not understand them and their way of life. Does that make it wrong because you or others deem their actions to be wrong ? No, they believed in what they did and lived by their code as we (TSBS) do. You nor anyone else has any right or justification to say what we do in our world is wrong. If you do not like it then do not come around our systems. Oh that has got to be the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard....right after Exzodier claiming that Short bus werent pirates. In point of fact...i think it was things like shooting storekeepers who wouldnt pay the insurance money to prevent such accidents,Shooting police officers whose only "crime" was trying to prevent the gambling,illegal drugs,gun running and prostitution that the mafia was so prevelantly involved in. I know you Short buggers are stupid....but thermal....you just stole the crown for biggest moron of them all. I wonder how many of these mouthy F*cks would have the stones to say that without a keyboard to hide behin
ScoRpS	Posted - 2006.01.06 07:10:00 - [106] I think thermal was referring to the IGC known as "MAFIA" who are outright pirates and proud of it and furthermore every post here should be in game/character anyway.
Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.01.06 12:02:00 - [107] Good luck to all involved, TSDS were a joy to fight and were honerable, we even had ten minute truces to disengage when the local space time continuum experiend massive tau distortion due to the number of combatants in system causing pilots ship systems to crach and they drop from local. El Presedente Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Jagaroth	Posted - 2006.01.06 13:44:00 - [108] Originally by: Hans Roaming We even had ten minute truces to disengage when the local space time continuum experienced massive tau distortion... Well that might have been what you told them. You told us you urgently needed to go to the bathroom - something about "curried slaver hound kebab"... Not that we keep slaver hounds of course. Or slaves. Or kebabs. ------
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2006.01.06 20:53:00 - [109] Dash staggers into the Battle Angel Inc office, a rather lacklustre affair consisting mostly of deck chairs, empty beer cans and a widescreen television hard-wired into 'Gallente Chixx'. Adorned with a rather terrible shirt with a blow up doll under his arm, he makes a rather uninspiring impression. One wonders how he ended up in his position of CEO... "Honey, I'm home! Holidays are overrraaaaARRRGHHH!" Tripping over a plastic table leg, he falls onto the concrete floor with a crunch. Probably another bone broken. Dusting himself off, he stands up straight and looks around. Not a single God-damned sound. How odd, you can usually hear at least one angel making unpleasant biological noises. Out of the corner of his eye, slowly swelling thanks to the fall, he notices the flashing Announcement Monitor by the HANGAR ACCESS airlock. He scans the screen with some difficulty, before turning towards the ready room and breaking into a stride. "They left me out again!!!" The Firing Range
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2006.01.10 13:29:00 - [110] The Battle Angels offices are alive once again following the annual Christmas party, an event so sordid and exhausting that pilots generally donÆt return to duty for weeks. The smell of beer hangs in the air, and the warm sounds of muffled laughter fill her cold steel corridors. Reclining in his deck chair, Dash is once again at peace with the world. Gin and tonic in one hand and yoyo in the other, he is the quintessential ideal of relaxation. As Marko approaches him from across the room, he canÆt help but smile. He knows exactly what heÆs got to show him. ôOperational report for you there bossö Dash eyes the brown paper folder before neatly lifting and turning over the front cover. He takes a generous sip of his beverage before responding, looking up from the page as he does so. ôOver a billion in insured losses on their side already, and nearly that in salvaged equipment? Nice work soldier. Keep it up and maybe IÆll install the paddling pool you all so desperately seem to wantö Marko nods. ôThank you sir û itÆs been a great ride so far. Can I get you any more ice?ö Movie Trailer
EXZODIER	Posted - 2006.01.10 17:12:00 - [111] please lock/delte this tread as it has gone off topic and is out of date and is just being used to smack wich is ghey HMMMMMMMM the end ? i think not
Ukiah	Posted - 2006.01.11 01:36:00 - [112] Originally by: Dash Ripcock The Battle Angels offices are alive once again following the annual Christmas party, an event so sordid and exhausting that pilots generally donÆt return to duty for weeks. The smell of beer hangs in the air, and the warm sounds of muffled laughter fill her cold steel corridors. Reclining in his deck chair, Dash is once again at peace with the world. Gin and tonic in one hand and yoyo in the other, he is the quintessential ideal of relaxation. As Marko approaches him from across the room, he canÆt help but smile. He knows exactly what heÆs got to show him. ôOperational report for you there bossö Dash eyes the brown paper folder before neatly lifting and turning over the front cover. He takes a generous sip of his beverage before responding, looking up from the page as he does so. ôOver a billion in insured losses on their side already, and nearly that in salvaged equipment? Nice work soldier. Keep it up and maybe IÆll install the paddling pool you all so desperately seem to wantö Marko nods. ôThank you sir û itÆs been a great ride so far. Can I get you any more ice?ö None to steady on his feet at the best of times, Ukiah nearly causes himself real harm falling over laughing at Marko's CLEARLY tongue in cheek reference to servicing Dash's needs. To a man, the rest of the Battle Angels know who clearly wears the pants in THAT relationship...
Leilani Solaris	Posted - 2006.01.11 09:06:00 - [113] Originally by: Ukiah Edited by: Ukiah on 11/01/2006 03:35:58 Originally by: Dash Ripcock The Battle Angels offices are alive once again following the annual Christmas party, an event so sordid and exhausting that pilots generally donÆt return to duty for weeks. The smell of beer hangs in the air, and the warm sounds of muffled laughter fill her cold steel corridors. Reclining in his deck chair, Dash is once again at peace with the world. Gin and tonic in one hand and yoyo in the other, he is the quintessential ideal of relaxation. As Marko approaches him from across the room, he canÆt help but smile. He knows exactly what heÆs got to show him. ôOperational report for you there bossö Dash eyes the brown paper folder before neatly lifting and turning over the front cover. He takes a generous sip of his beverage before responding, looking up from the page as he does so. ôOver a billion in insured losses on their side already, and nearly that in salvaged equipment? Nice work soldier. Keep it up and maybe IÆll install the paddling pool you all so desperately seem to wantö Marko nods. ôThank you sir û itÆs been a great ride so far. Can I get you any more ice?ö None too steady on his feet at the best of times, Ukiah nearly causes himself real harm falling over laughing at Marko's CLEARLY tongue in cheek reference to servicing Dash's needs. To a man, the rest of the Battle Angels know who clearly wears the pants in THAT relationship... rofl. http://bapwn.eve-killboard.net/

Eshtir	Posted - 2006.01.11 15:35:00 - [114] Locked on behalf of the thread starter. forum rules \| [email protected] Yulai, we have a problem!


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