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Markiel
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:07:00 -
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xX1337xHoneyzXx wrote:Lai HasCake wrote:This would be great imagine the miner tears when they lose 4 days worth of Skill points after being suicide ganked in high sec. I would like to see the OP's suggestion, just for the quote above alone!
You know, I would like to say that miners wouldn't use it in hi-sec because of the lack of yield, and for the lost SP when ganked. However, I know my fellow miners can be rather dense at times, so ya.... |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.06.07 18:26:00 -
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Markiel wrote:Valid strategy. Haven't tried it myself, and might be hard with an odd number of alts.
With odd numbers you just run a chain.
A webs B, B webs C, C webs A.
Just make sure you fleetwarp so nobody gets left behind.
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Things happen sometimes, and with retrievers they happen more often than not. A retriever would barely be functional with +2 warp strength on it. I was hoping for a module that added +2 warp strength and then you could throw on a stab if you wanted. maybe have the warp strength module reduce the lock range penalty by 25% or so...numbers could always be tweaked and so could ideas.
When you screw up in EVE, you get killed.
A Retriever with 2 WCS mines about twice what a Venture does and about 90% of what a 3 MLU Retriever does. That's perfectly functional.
Quote:It kind of does. I can fairly safely mine low-sec in a venture. Its not really a viable source of income however because the ore you can get from low-sec at the rate you can get it with a venture will not make enough to justify moving from hi-sec. Conversly trying to mine with a barge or exhumer in low sec is way to risky for not enough of an increase in revenue to justify it. You could probably bring in more ISK if you were able to mine lo-sec without being disturbed...but we all know that is not going to happen. Therefore there's only about 2 ways to make miners want to mine in low. One being increase the value of the ore being mined, either through lowering the amount of low sec provided minerals throughout hi-sec, or increasing the lo-sec ores in general. Or two, make it so a miner can mine enough of the current ores just safely enough to warrent trips into low.
Hed and Hemo (both LS ores) currently provide the highest ISK/m3 of any ore but Mercoxit. 314 ISK/m3 and 309 ISK/m3 respectively.
Pyro is the best HS ore and it runs 205 ISK/m3.
Ark is 301 ISK/m3 atm.
A double (or even triple) stabbed Retriever pulls in more ISK worth of ore mining any of the 3 LS ores than a 3 MLU one does mining any HS ore.
Odyssey buffed LS an 0.0 ores.
http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore
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Markiel
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:23:00 -
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I know it buffed null, but really it just buffed production in null with a minor buff to mining, since null already had the most profitable mining to begin with. It just made it so null had to import less low end minerals in to produce stuff. |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:30:00 -
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Markiel wrote:I know it buffed null, but really it just buffed production in null with a minor buff to mining, since null already had the most profitable mining to begin with. It just made it so null had to import less low end minerals in to produce stuff.
Buffing Gneiss and Spud, which Nullsec miners are forced to mine by the mechanics of industry upgrades, is a huge buff to Null mining. Also, compression means never having to say you're sorr that exporting takes no more work than it did before.
And you seem to have missed the part where I point out the fact that they also buffed LS ores. Meaning that you make more ISK in a Stabbed Retriever in LS than a 3 MLU Retriever in HS.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Markiel
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:56:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Markiel wrote:I know it buffed null, but really it just buffed production in null with a minor buff to mining, since null already had the most profitable mining to begin with. It just made it so null had to import less low end minerals in to produce stuff. Buffing Gneiss and Spud, which Nullsec miners are forced to mine by the mechanics of industry upgrades, is a huge buff to Null mining. Also, compression means never having to say you're sorr that exporting takes no more work than it did before. And you seem to have missed the part where I point out the fact that they also buffed LS ores. Meaning that you make more ISK in a Stabbed Retriever in LS than a 3 MLU Retriever in HS.
I thought they just buffed null ores...? Can you provide the link the Dev blog saying that low sec ores got buffed? |
RubyPorto
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:05:00 -
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Markiel wrote:
I thought they just buffed null ores...? Can you provide the link the Dev blog saying that low sec ores got buffed?
http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html#site:ore
It's on the same dev blog as all the other ore changes.
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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