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...i mean, over the years one thing remains a constant, women in video games don't like to be found. wanna know why? just make an alt say a few times you are a girl on the NPC corp chat, and eventually you'll get an evemail from a dude that wants to smell your farts...

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Go with a pure male corp and you will most likely run into the people that thinks that you really DO want to sleep with anyone who says "You sound cute" while giggling on TS, find a corp with a lot of girls and you will have trouble advancing higher up and you have to be paranoid about passive aggressiveness and "competition" between the female players (in some cases you wont even know your in a competition! ).

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/06/03/96-percent-of-eve-online-players-are-male/


Takeaways:
a) GiRL is GiRL. Think about that the next time you cyber.

b) How can we, a bunch of sci-fiction addicted hyper-aggressive males with spastic trigger fingers and/or mining/missioning Carebears who enjoy repeated repetition while dwelling in our parents' basement, help CCP to increase sub numbers by attracting female players to EVE?

I, for one, am at a loss. Especially after my wife laughed when I asked for suggestions.

Wife says to add ponies. (that was a joke)

But as others have mentioned, some of the harassment that goes on towards female players from the male population is...aggravating to say it politely.
I have experienced everything from harassment, receiving nude pictures, ingame threats towards corp members, gotten the corp kicked out of alliances and so on just because i did not wish to cyber with someone.
Received real life death threats (ok only one of these), had the mandatory "OMG its a girl" comments on TS, had people rage quit the corp because "omg a female beat me in a frig fight!", been told i hold a higher position in the corp because of my better half (oddly enough i recruited him not the other way around ), had people tell me that "a married woman is more of a challenge", and some that straight forward tell me that they dont care what i say even if im a director and they will only listen to a male director.

my personal, anecdotal evidence calls bullshit on that 4%.

also, what people often fail to consider is how the interaction changes between players, once one of them reveals to be a woman... on games like world of Warcraft the socially awkward and misogynistic trend to get violent for no apparent reason, often harassing or just plain making people uncomfortable. and we are talking wow here, one of the safest as far a theme parks go....

consider now eve. a game that rewards the socially inept, and often puts them in positions of "power", or at least in a position of having enough power to affect the gameplay of others. why would a women put herself in that fix? yeah, sure if there's harassment it can be reported, but the experience has been ruined by this point.

i mean, over the years one thing remains a constant, women in video games don't like to be found. wanna know why? just make an alt say a few times you are a girl on the NPC corp chat, and eventually you'll get an evemail from a dude that wants to smell your farts, a convo from some other creep that wants you to listen to his mic, and god knows how many added you to their watchlist just to get a weird crepo feeling when you log in.

like i said, my personal experience shows a way higher than 4% number. and no, there's nothing to change in the game to appeal to women. that in on itself is already sexist.

No we don't need any of that stuff.

What we do need is CCP not pandering exclusively to males while shutting out the possibility that females may like to play the game for the game.

What we do not need are a bunch of idiots and morons in chatrooms telling us that we should just ask for isk from guys *instead* of playing the GAME.

What we do not need is to be made to feel unwelcome and unimportant as science fiction fans for being born with certain equipment.

Drop it already the joke is really, really old.

Nice troll though, grats.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/06/03/96-percent-of-eve-online-players-are-male/


Takeaways:
a) GiRL is GiRL. Think about that the next time you cyber.

b) How can we, a bunch of sci-fiction addicted hyper-aggressive males with spastic trigger fingers and/or mining/missioning Carebears who enjoy repeated repetition while dwelling in our parents' basement, help CCP to increase sub numbers by attracting female players to EVE?

I, for one, am at a loss. Especially after my wife laughed when I asked for suggestions.

I, for one, am at a loss. Especially after my wife laughed when I asked for suggestions.

It's not something that traditionally appeals to women, there's a stigma attached as well as the fact that there's not much character customisation after the creation screen.

if you want more women to play this game, you need avatar interaction within stations and vanity items for them.

Sad but true :(

And yet my girlfriend's avatars are just whatever was set, she spent only a minute or two on them because she didn't care about that. Where as I spent ages on mine...

needs moar hello kitty pink spaceships, that will bring in the girls

(that ebing said, aesthetically, i would really appreciate soemthing other than heels to wear, like actual utilitarian boots for instance)

Get a startion for E-RP, Girls love E-RP right?

Girls in Eve?

Some time ago i was flying around often with a REAL girl (confimed via teamspeak). At this point i knew her for some weeks and gender was never mentioned before. And after the first surprise that a real girl is doing fleet things with a bunch of guys, gender was not a thing we were talking about afterwards too.

Personality is what counts and at least me and theother guys flying with us knew that, and thankfully there was no moron in that group who would have spoiled our fun (and if so i would have kicked him from fleet immedeatly) for sexual reasons.

There was only one person disliking this, and that was my RL girlfriend, as she was SURE that i wil cyberxxx this girl (and she hates eve from the bottom of her heart).

Long story short, it IS possible to find a niche for a girl in this game, but it might be hard to find the right ones to go with.

[quote=My Postman]Girls in Eve?

Some time ago i was flying around often with a REAL girl (confimed via teamspeak). At this point i knew her for some weeks and gender was never mentioned before. And after the first surprise that a real girl is doing fleet things with a bunch of guys, gender was not a thing we were talking about afterwards too.

Personality is what counts and at least me and theother guys flying with us knew that, and thankfully there was no moron in that group who would have spoiled our fun (and if so i would have kicked him from fleet immedeatly) for sexual reasons.

There was only one person disliking this, and that was my RL girlfriend, as she was SURE that i wil cyberxxx this girl (and she hates eve from the bottom of her heart).

Long story short, it IS possible to find a niche for a girl in this game, but it might be hard to find the right ones to go with.

This.

The times I have flown with a woman and hearing her on comms my reaction was this:

Ooh, she is a woman. Cool.

Then continued what ever we were doing. Don't see how it matters if the person at the keyboard is a man or woman. But that is just my point of view.

I've tried to get the wife interested in EvE, she has no interest what so ever. She prefers that other game & Farmville.

Edit: I asked her again and she said it's a - "cutthroat, male testosterone dominated game and it just seems full of griefing and hatred." - direct quote.

She elaborated some more but that's the cliff notes version.