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Wieland II
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Posted - 2005.11.03 22:55:00 -
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I moved out of laggy Oursulaert and i am moving back in as soon as possible.
Only a few jumps away and you are like in a desert.
Stations with only 30% refining? no thx
Crappy agents that send you on 18 jump courier trips for a few coins? no thx
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no thx
I can play with lag but not without fun.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.03 22:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Wieland II
Stations with only 30% refining?
Check. Duvolle labs station in Oursulaert.
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Crappy agents that send you on 18 jump courier trips for a few coins?
Check. There's bunches of those in Oursulaert, but they're not the ones people use.
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Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market?
If you all buggered off and left Oursulaert, there'd BE a market out there, wouldn't there?
Show some initiative. Find a better agent, and maybe - just maybe - you can convince some others to follow you to a new home.
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Caldorous
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Posted - 2005.11.03 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Wieland II
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no
What about buying great amounts of supplies before starting the missions and then when you have enough loot, haul it back to oursulaert for selling it?
There is another good thing that is producing yourself your needed supplies from the resources that come from useless loot in missions. I do that with the antimatter charges M.
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2005.11.03 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Wieland II
I can play with lag but not without fun.
You should try being a pirate, then try complaining you have it hard up.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.11.04 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wieland II
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no thx
Erm, there is a market, just not the ultra-lazy hub one. Just because things aren't being sold in your station, doesn't mean you can't buy them. Just because there isn't a pile of buy orders at your station doesn't mean no-ones going to buy your stuff if you put it up for sale.
And of course of you're mission-running, you don't need huge amounts of supplies anyway. As mentioned already, building your own ammo isn't very hard, and you shouldn't need huge amounts of anything else for day-to-day operations. If all else fails, a quick shopping trip in a nanofibered indy should keep you going.
And of course by moving now, you get a headstart over all the people sitting there until they get forced to move. And they are going to be forced to move, one way or the other.
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Willo Vasquez
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Posted - 2005.11.04 11:07:00 -
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no decent agents outside of ours? you're not looking hard enough, because within 6 jumps of ours theres 1 station with 3 level 3 agents, 2 level 2, all decent ql, and theres at least 2 (that I've found) decent level 4 agents in that range too.
No market outside ours? that's a ridiculous statement to make.
Try opening your eyes a little, my friend, and broadening your horizons some. It's a big universe out there, and I know in my 4 months of playing I've barely scratched the surface, but even i can recognise the flaws in your logic.
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2005.11.04 11:35:00 -
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Well I have my agents either in high sec or low sec but prefer my low sec agent to be honest.
(both are lvl 4 agents, exept that one keeps sending me into Egghelende and Ammamake (Mafia do you by any chance have paid off that agent in Jel ???)).
Anyway ... when I get enough loot I move it to hubs for sales, I don't spend lots of time there unless when I got loads of stuff to sell on the market ofcourse.
Don't see the need to "live" there to be honest and I can't figure out why people actually are mining in those systems as well!!!!
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Melishka
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Posted - 2005.11.04 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wieland II
I moved out of laggy Oursulaert and i am moving back in as soon as possible.
Only a few jumps away and you are like in a desert.
Stations with only 30% refining? no thx
Crappy agents that send you on 18 jump courier trips for a few coins? no thx
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no thx
I can play with lag but not without fun.
LMAO
On second thought it might be best if you did stay there. You know, you did find the perfect system and that's good. Just as long as you're happy. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking the other 3000+ systems in eve are anything worthwhile exploring. That's the spirit!
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Melishka
Originally by: Wieland II
I moved out of laggy Oursulaert and i am moving back in as soon as possible.
Only a few jumps away and you are like in a desert.
Stations with only 30% refining? no thx
Crappy agents that send you on 18 jump courier trips for a few coins? no thx
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no thx
I can play with lag but not without fun.
LMAO
On second thought it might be best if you did stay there. You know, you did find the perfect system and that's good. Just as long as you're happy. Don't let anyone fool you into thinking the other 3000+ systems in eve are anything worthwhile exploring. That's the spirit!
Sarcasm doesn't help, especially when they aren't worth exploring.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard
Sarcasm doesn't help, especially when they aren't worth exploring.
Sarcasm isn't usually intended to help. At least, not the person that elicits it. It is the lowest form of wit and will, accordingly, go right over the target's head.
There are plenty of systems with good everything - and which are not Ours or Jita. Look around.
Sev
We are what we repeatedly do - Aristotle.
That has got to be a worry.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:30:00 -
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And here's me whining that the 0.0 constellation I'm operating out of might be a little on the sparse side. Shows what I know eh?
I was going to post a bit of 'how to find a new home' advice, but it's hardly worth the effort. I mean, I might just have to open a new window, and that's just one mouse click too far.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:34:00 -
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its sad that best money lies in a few high sec systems
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
And here's me whining that the 0.0 constellation I'm operating out of might be a little on the sparse side. Shows what I know eh?
I was going to post a bit of 'how to find a new home' advice, but it's hardly worth the effort. I mean, I might just have to open a new window, and that's just one mouse click too far.
It might be. Each to his own. Some people don't like the hastle, aren't power gamers, log in for a bit of NPC action with agents or whatever. I know that is true for me. I just play 1 or 2 hours a night maximum. Sometimes none. Occassionally I'll play all day on the weekend. I mostly don't want to spend my leisure time travelling from one end of space to the other.
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Karunel
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:48:00 -
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I can't believe people are *THAT* lazy... 
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Celes Tial
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Posted - 2005.11.04 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Celes Tial on 04/11/2005 12:52:18
Originally by: Nafri
its sad that best money lies in a few high sec systems
A friend of mine operates in a low sec system with 5 level 4 agents who are all quality 20, and 3 level 3 ones, also all quality 20. In the same station.
No lag, no pirates. Up to 11'000+ LP per mission, lower security gives better LP and other rewards.
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GBBUTT
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Posted - 2005.11.04 13:04:00 -
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Hmm Lets see i used to live in Ours, when it had at most 50 people in there on a weekend mid afternoon. I purposely now way point arround the system now, and have written off my assets in there.
You can keep that cursed system, i'll stay in 0.0 and kill multi million isk BS spawn's and mine Ark and Bistot thank you very much. Actually i should be thanking you. Stay there and all your friends you are taking the pressure off 0.0 and making it lag free and fun :)
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Oosel
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Posted - 2005.11.04 13:19:00 -
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dont forget that in places like ours with there being so many players you also can ask for help on missions where you need it not everyone can solo missions and we all know what happens when you gang people you dont know in 0.4 and below so instead of giving the man grief for telling you why hes gone back try and see his point of view......
as has already been said not everyone plays eve for the sake of ship pvp they get a couple of hours in which to potter about and want safe'ish space with others in it to do a few missions or mine a little.
and before i get the join a better bigger corp comeback you also need to understand people dont want to do that either sometimes and its their choice but im not about to say well you are in the wrong game go play something else because eve is there to offer something to everyone at the own pace
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2005.11.04 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Celes Tial
A friend of mine operates in a low sec system with 5 level 4 agents who are all quality 20, and 3 level 3 ones, also all quality 20. In the same station.
No lag, no pirates. Up to 11'000+ LP per mission, lower security gives better LP and other rewards.
I bet he works for the Royal Khanid Navy. I did a little searching around for which corp I wanted to mission ***** for, and they have three Qual 20 level 4 agents in Irmalin, which is 0.1 I believe.. 
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.11.04 13:59:00 -
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People who talk about no market outside of Ours are not trying. I did the same thing as soon as I moved up an agent ql.
I moved into a new system with 2 level 3 agents in the station, 50% refinery, factories and labs in the system.
Market - O yeah there is a war going on in case you haven't read anything. I can not keep the modules stocked and minerals in my hangar for the corps need equipment.
You didn't look hard enough.
Try again!
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.11.04 14:18:00 -
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Guys, it is over, read the new dev blog... people in high sec hubs was warned... CCP tried its best to solve the lag there... but no luck.. so agents will be moved form this HUBs... Oveur even stated he know CCP will lose customers with this, but solving the problem need this solution...
THB hats of to CCP that they will do this move...
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VeNT
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Posted - 2005.11.04 14:20:00 -
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I'd love to see the maths on how much better off you are running the same level agent in lower sec space, I've currently got mine in 0.5
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.11.04 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
Originally by: Celes Tial
A friend of mine operates in a low sec system with 5 level 4 agents who are all quality 20, and 3 level 3 ones, also all quality 20. In the same station.
No lag, no pirates. Up to 11'000+ LP per mission, lower security gives better LP and other rewards.
I bet he works for the Royal Khanid Navy. I did a little searching around for which corp I wanted to mission ***** for, and they have three Qual 20 level 4 agents in Irmalin, which is 0.1 I believe..
There are quite a few of these systems actually, not sure if it's bugged agent distribution or something. I'm in the 0.1 Celes Tial was referring to, with the 5 l4 q20 and 3 l3 q20, and I also know of a couple of 0.3s within 7 jumps that each have 3 l4 q20s in the same station. Very strange ¼_¼.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2005.11.04 15:15:00 -
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I've made more isk in remote sections of space than I ever have playing Isk Wars in popular space.
People will buy from you in outer areas so they dont have to travel. Oh and 20% markup is so nice. 
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Kamikazi BOB
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Posted - 2005.11.04 15:25:00 -
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Blech!!! Oursulag was horrid before the new hardware! I only went there sometimes cause i had to pick something up or i got a storyline mission there.
hi yield refining stations are common, u just have to look better and some stations are more obvious then others for hi yield refining.
hehe, ccp is gonna move some of the agents out of there (probably the best i hope) so if u wanna run those u will have no choice but to move, and if ur gonna quit just because of that, then good bye to u, 1 less person to cause lag for the rest 
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.11.04 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Oosel
and before i get the join a better bigger corp comeback you also need to understand people dont want to do that either sometimes and its their choice but im not about to say well you are in the wrong game go play something else because eve is there to offer something to everyone at the own pace
Yes, it's their choice what to do and how they play the game, but that doesn't mean they should be able to make any choice they like and still have everything open to them. Yes, even offers something to everyone at their own pace, but it shouldn't offer them everything if they choose a slow or solo pace.
Everyone has to accept some limits on what they can achieve based on their playstyle. Choosing to go it alone should mean it's harder for you to muster help when needed, and hard to access any high-end group content. Similarly, the person that joins a large corp or alliance accepts that they may have to contribute to corp toys that they don't directly get to play with, and that their aims and activities are not entirely decided by them. In return they get to access the high-end group content, territorial control etc.
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velox
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Posted - 2005.11.04 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Wieland II
I moved out of laggy Oursulaert and i am moving back in as soon as possible.
Only a few jumps away and you are like in a desert.
Stations with only 30% refining? no thx
Crappy agents that send you on 18 jump courier trips for a few coins? no thx
Nothing to buy and you cant sell anything because there is no market? no thx
I can play with lag but not without fun.
What did you do head out in one direction 3 jumps tried that system everything wasn't perfect so back to being one of the sheep.
If you want any degree of success you'll need to do a bit of home work.
Start by looking at the npc corp you do missions with and see where they have little collections of agents at what systems. then go and scout those systems out.
Its very easy within 5 jumps of Oursulaert to find a nice quiet .6/.7 with low traffic good agents and station services at a good price. It just takes homework.
I have 10 different 3 and 4 agents within 3 jumps and the average mission is at most 1 jump from the agent (i prefer the kill missions)
velox
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2005.11.04 16:21:00 -
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This is an alt but I can verify with my 1 and 3 month old character that I never been in Jita or Oursalat for more than a week.
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Longasc
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Posted - 2005.11.04 16:39:00 -
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It is rather sad that people only think they can only trade in the system 1 jump from the one they started in (Oursu, Jita, Rens...)
Amarr has less people, but Amarr, Penirgman, Tash-Murkon are frequented. There is also not such a huge difference between hub systems and the systems around.
All other races have 1 GIANT HUB and a giant pampa desert around it.
From 300 to 10 in 1 jump.
Strange. But people do not only trade in hubs, noo, they also must have an agent there, as if the corp of the agent would be endemic to Jita or Oursulaert... ^^
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