Just to add my 2 cents,

I've loved exploring since the moment I tried it and have spent countless hours scanning 1/2 of eve enjoying enery minute of it. Was great, so is the new mini game, bit out of place and pointless but good fun so what the hey. the loot spew has killed it for me completly. I finally figured out where the loot was going (i was to lazy to travel to the tutorial agent to have it explained to me :)) only to discover more than 1/2 of what ever i find is lost lo space no matter how fast i am and to top it off what i do get is total rubbish unless you win the lottery.

Totally gutted, docked up after this sold my scanning ships and took the rigs out to free up room for something useful.

This is pretty depressing as my favourite pastime now is not, and to top it off I don't enjoy anything besides the old exploration, the rest of eve's to boring solo.

Just to add my 2 cents,

I've loved exploring since the moment I tried it and have spent countless hours scanning 1/2 of eve enjoying enery minute of it. Was great, so is the new mini game, bit out of place and pointless but good fun so what the hey. the loot spew has killed it for me completly. I finally figured out where the loot was going (i was to lazy to travel to the tutorial agent to have it explained to me :)) only to discover more than 1/2 of what ever i find is lost lo space no matter how fast i am and to top it off what i do get is total rubbish unless you win the lottery.

Totally gutted, docked up after this sold my scanning ships and took the rigs out to free up room for something useful.

This is pretty depressing as my favourite pastime now is not, and to top it off I don't enjoy anything besides the old exploration, the rest of eve's to boring solo.

Yes, some of the containers are larger than the others. But you need to scan it to find out which cans you need to primary anyways. It sounds like people don't like it because they just suck at collecting the right containers. 2 minutes of scanning and 5 minutes hacking/looting nets 50-100mil. There is nothing to complain about. I love this new system. You just can't be an idiot when doing it.

Okay, I'm not really questioning the profits to be made, I just don't like how you get those profits into your ship after you are done hacking.



And upon thinking further, for an exploration expansion, CCP really dropped the ball.

1. Where are all the hacking specific skills and mods? You know, stronger viruses, better attack/defense vs defensive nodes, a skill or mod that increases your virus strength every turn.
2. Where's defensive systems that let everyone know where the node is and that you are hacking it (more for low and null if you failed to hack it or are taking too long)? A failed hack would be a great reason to spawn a few NPCs to put the hurt on the player.
3. Where are skills, ships, or mods that allow you to tracker in more than one container at a time?
4. Where are hacking drones that will hack for you or loot drones that'll take your loot to your hold for you automatically.
5. Why couldn't have CCP redesigned the imicus? That thing is ugly as heck and I'd like to look at a more attractive ship.
6. The Genosis is a big hit, why can't every faction (or ORE) put up a version of it?
7. Why didn't they add more things to do for exploration? Why can't we have new combat sites or ships sending distress calls that you need to rescue or give us a mission from a local corp that pops up when we warp to the area? Why can't we find a site of a recent battle where we can just salvage and loot?


They could have done any of those things to make exploration cool and instead they make loot spew, loot bukkake, loot diarrhea, or whatever you call it.

Loot bukkake!

Plus think about this logically. Who in the bloody right mind would spend all that money to hide 2 pieces of carbon and a blank data sheet in the middle of nowhere? That makes no sense when you think about it logically. If you are taking time to set up something like that, you're putting something in it that worth your time and effort.

1) Cargo scan before you hack to see IF it is even worth it and to find out wich cans to go for.

2) I like this ejection thing - should be applied to ship losses and POS bashing as well.

I am doing these things as I'm typing it and I really enjoy it. Doing it with another person and I lose very little loot.

but it's always been the nature of exploring, only now it's more visually obvious and taunting.

Out of interest (I've not done much exploration and certainly none of the post-Oddysey type), how do you determine which containers are likely to contain better loot? Do they look different/have a different coloured bracket?

2) I like this ejection thing - should be applied to ship losses and POS bashing as well.

Mr Tinfoil Hat says...

This was done to get explorers spending more time uncloaked and on site longer, to increase the chance of getting pointed and shot by someone. While you are hacking a site you can't be cloaked. While dicking around with can spew you arent cloaked. AND with the added bonus of getting you to bring a buddy along to get shot also (to grab all the drops).

More active thought time spent dicking around on a site equals less attention paid to local and less mashing of d-scan.

This was done to turn explorers into better targets IMHO, because as you point out it can't seriously have been designed as compelling gameplay (at least the can spew part)

Loot bukkake!

I love the bukkake if you know what to grab it's easy to get the good stuff. They should add this mechanic to asteroid mining and I would probably like 'roid bukkake too.