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Nycodemis
National Institute of Mental Health
18
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:27:00 -
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The simplest solution to this would have been for CCP to judge the stories or have non-EvE playing persons do so. The latter is the only way that people wouldn't be able to scream about vote coordination within power blocks or CCP favoritism. It would also have the greatest potential to highlight the best stories based on factors that CCP should have been interested in... specifically stories that would pique the interest of people that would enjoy EvE, but don't currently play it. After all, more targets is a good thing.
Thanks to everyone who submitted an entry and Gratz to those chosen, by whatever means.
Disclaimer: I submitted no works for consideration, nor did I vote. Although I have nothing against others' adventures, I'd rather experience EvE than read about it. |
Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
479
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:30:00 -
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I thought the whole point in the true stories was about describing our own special personal experiences. It would be nice to simply have your story pass a quality check just to see if it is legit but having players vote on the best ones was a bit of an oversight on CCP's behalf. Herping your derp since 19Potato --á[Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
615
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Posted - 2013.06.05 23:52:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I like how whenever something doesnt go the way someone wants its always a debacle or a conspiracy. Only sometimes...it is.
Luckily there was nothing of real world value on the line. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
493
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:38:00 -
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Emu Meo wrote:When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes. I thought to myself no matter how good a story I may write, it will never get enough votes as likely all of the votes will come from the alliance blocks as per usual in these situation.
Just as predicted, it is exactly as I suspected. Mitanni at the top spot with a pretty bland and generic take on the famous BOB disbandment. He probably just copy and pasted it from anther source and instructed all his goons to up vote it. The other stories were also pretty boring and generic, with the second place prize going to a story with literally zero literary talent displayed, more akin to a check list of events which occurred.
A wasted opportunity indeed CCP. Did you really not forsee this happening?
bitter much?
But really, CCP was smart to let players vote, otherwise CCP would've been bashed horribly with favoritism accusations.
What's happening here is far more desirable than the alternative.
I'm sure Goons would vote for your story next time if you offer enough isk as compensation
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EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3623
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:55:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:There were some really interesting small gang stories that got completely ignored in favor of those written by famous players with alliance voting power. The OP had a point, though calling it a debacle is a bit overly dramatic.
My thoughts exactly. The only debacle is that anyone could have thought that this competition wasn't going to be a freebie for a nullsec trumpet blowing article. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
194
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:07:00 -
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Emu Meo wrote:When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes.
CSM elections again???
So what Goon "true story" is going to "win"?
Allow this type of tomfoolery, you can't have elections or votes without the influence of a block vote. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Lyell Wolf
Virtues Corporation Yulai Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:13:00 -
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I have to absolutely agree with the op on this matter.
As several others have stated, it's no secret that the rather bland story that won did so because the dedicated followers wanted to support their leader. There were some pretty good stories out there that more than deserved the prize. You'd think after 10 years CCP would've known this would happen with a community like this.
Again, the outcome was more than predictable and it was a pure waste. |
I Need PLEX
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:21:00 -
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Lyell Wolf wrote:There were some pretty good stories out there that more than deserved the prize
Hey guys, if Earnest Hemingway wrote a story about a lowsec roam this one time, no one would care. This competition was about Big People who do Big Things
and highsec, lowsec, any sec that aint null still cant organize for ****
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Lyell Wolf
Virtues Corporation Yulai Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:26:00 -
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I Need PLEX wrote:Lyell Wolf wrote:There were some pretty good stories out there that more than deserved the prize Hey guys, if Earnest Hemingway wrote a story about a lowsec roam this one time, no one would care. This competition was about Big People who do Big Things and highsec, lowsec, any sec that aint null still cant organize for ****
The biased is strong with this one.
But to the matter on hand, it's about giving credit where credit is due. Not watching someone win because the followers wanted to push the "I support my leader" button |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:36:00 -
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So you're telling me 0.0 alliances are uncreative and uninteresting?
hmmm |
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Lyell Wolf
Virtues Corporation Yulai Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 04:51:00 -
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floating in space wrote:So you're telling me 0.0 alliances are uncreative and uninteresting?
hmmm
I'm sure many of the null sec alliances have good stories to tell. The BOB story is one of many stories that if actually written well, are actually worth reading.
Let me take a moment to say I am no writer and I'm not saying I would have done a better job. But we're there much better written stories? Yes.
Again the point is giving credit where it's due. Not someone winning because the loyal subjects pressed the "I support my leader" button |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:12:00 -
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Grrrr, Goons!
Don't give away truckloads of PLEX if you don't want it to get "blocswarmed". But I assume, if they didn't do that, nobody would care, this isn't about "good stories". It's bullshit either way. Blame :ccp: |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
196
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:19:00 -
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Neuntausend wrote:Grrrr, Goons!
They're the butt of every joke in EvE. Goes with the territory of naming yourselves...goons. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
13
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:23:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Just write a story about Mintchip and her experiences in EVE, make sure it's compressed into a twitter format.
Not empty quoting. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1254
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:31:00 -
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I heard mittens was going to write a good story about fan-fest, but he was so drunk he couldn't remember what the story was.
Something about him wearing a pointy hat? This is not a signature. |
Naomi Hale
Children of New Eden
148
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:32:00 -
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Emu Meo wrote:When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes. I thought to myself no matter how good a story I may write, it will never get enough votes as likely all of the votes will come from the alliance blocks as per usual in these situation.
Just as predicted, it is exactly as I suspected. Mitanni at the top spot with a pretty bland and generic take on the famous BOB disbandment. He probably just copy and pasted it from anther source and instructed all his goons to up vote it. The other stories were also pretty boring and generic, with the second place prize going to a story with literally zero literary talent displayed, more akin to a check list of events which occurred.
A wasted opportunity indeed CCP. Did you really not forsee this happening? I figured something like that would happen.
I'm more concerned with if it can make a good story for a graphic novel that needs to contain four other stories. BoB's downfalll would really fit better into a sci-fi mini-series or political/spy novel, not 45 pages of a graphic novel. I choose to believe what I was PROGRAMMED to believe! |
baltec1
Bat Country
6841
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Posted - 2013.06.06 06:40:00 -
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grr goons. |
Kinis Deren
The Nyan Cat Pirates The Retirement Club
183
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Posted - 2013.06.06 08:14:00 -
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True Stories? ...... Yawn
I ignored that site completely because the writing (excuse the pun) was on the wall from the get go. Mittani stroking his e-peen and his mind swiped followers chomping at the bit to vote was always a forgone conclusion, imho.
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baltec1
Bat Country
6841
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Posted - 2013.06.06 08:22:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:True Stories? ...... Yawn
I ignored that site completely because the writing (excuse the pun) was on the wall from the get go. Mittani stroking his e-peen and his mind swiped followers chomping at the bit to vote was always a forgone conclusion, imho.
Because it is impossible to out vote a block that makes up less than 1% of the population. |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
1839
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Posted - 2013.06.06 08:34:00 -
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Emu Meo wrote:When I first read about true stories I was intrigued. A really interesting idea I thought, and I felt encouraged to begin penning a story of my own. That is until I read about how they were going to judge the winner, namely, based upon player votes. I thought to myself no matter how good a story I may write, it will never get enough votes as likely all of the votes will come from the alliance blocks as per usual in these situation.
Just as predicted, it is exactly as I suspected. Mitanni at the top spot with a pretty bland and generic take on the famous BOB disbandment. He probably just copy and pasted it from anther source and instructed all his goons to up vote it. The other stories were also pretty boring and generic, with the second place prize going to a story with literally zero literary talent displayed, more akin to a check list of events which occurred.
A wasted opportunity indeed CCP. Did you really not forsee this happening?
A bit late to the party are we not?
I said that even before the voting started, so did everybody else that has more than 2 cells to rub together. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
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Mitzi Sayuri
The Carlyle Group
3
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Posted - 2013.06.06 11:48:00 -
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So sorry that there wasn't a plethora of stories circa 2004 of pirates that made you sing for your existence, circa Space Invaders and the like. Oh so many fond memories that are only available on vents and the like.
Those were the good old days, you never knew if you could survive.
Still looking for any Space Invader story, takes time I know.
And what about the original Ponzi, you know the guy that continually justified himself on the forums. hmmm have to to some research . |
Ben Samuels
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:11:00 -
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Cool Story, Bro |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
171
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:27:00 -
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While the point does have some legitimacy to it, there is the fact that the large powerblocs also contain by their very nature the largest pools of members and, therefore, the largest group of potentially interesting stories to tell.
OP complains about literary quality, but this contest was never about something that will be copy-pasted verbatim; they're going to be used by CCP as inspiration for a graphic novel and TV series (go watch some Fanfest).
Complain if you must about "omg it's all nullsec blocs," but unless you have some interesting highsec stories to tell - of which there are plenty, of course - try and be a little more open minded. Let's not forget that some of the most interesting highsec stories are actually staged by nullsec blocs. Core Skills - train em up train em up! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2044
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:29:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun No! I'll be reading these Tropes for like a week now! Damn you!
That's how that damn site gets you, it keeps you going "oh yea, I seen that before!!!" lol
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corporal death
The Little Guys
0
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Posted - 2013.06.16 05:32:00 -
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.... One simply needs look at the lack of response from CCP, and the responses from the forum lords. To think that this competition was in any way fair is absurd. Look at who won ALL the prizes. CCP knows they screwed up. Things like this don't help to generate a larger player base. Nobody likes a situation where the rich get richer, and nobody else has a chance. As the goon post says, this competition is worth 120 billion isk, which would go to alliance coffers.. If Chewbacca Is a wookie, and wookie's are from kashyyyk, then why is Chewbacca on endor??? It doesn't make sense... +1 to the goonion for winning |
Ghazu
597
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Posted - 2013.06.16 07:26:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*. This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster. The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?). The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?). I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. * not commenting on the quality of the winner work. write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2442
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:44:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*. This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster. The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?). The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?). I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. * not commenting on the quality of the winner work. write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt
Houm, I do know a story about someone who earned 40,000 likes in a forum thread and got a carrier paid for by his thread buddies...
As i've said elsewhere, the fact that Mittens could had won with absolutely anyhting (even : "X pressed disband button. BoB was disbanded") points a serious fault in the contest mechanics. Further, CCP will run another contest later this year and are taking suggestions on how to improve it... doesn't sounds like they're too fond on the turnout of this one, does it?
I wrote a semi-detailed post on improvements at the appropiate thread. Summarized as:
- Be sure on why they run a contest and what the result should be - Use a jury to achieve the goal defined above - Proofread on plot drafts, then ask to elaborate the more promising drafts for the actual contest - Absolutely NO voting - Absolutely NO judging by "who" wrote it but by "what" was written.
I myself will wait to have a chance if they ever make a fiction contest... The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
24572
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Posted - 2013.06.16 08:51:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:GIGO, you ask who can get more votes for a creamy fart and you get a top voted creamy fart*. This True Story issue strikes me as the exact opposite of the "design a starship" initial disaster. The first round of "design a starship" had too few EVE and too much outside talent(?). The True Story contest has had way too much EVE and null outside talent(?). I wish good luck to the Black Horse guys trying to make a comic out of BoB's demise and then earn any money with it. * not commenting on the quality of the winner work. write up that story where after months of barbie freaking cyber flirting this dude got a carrier cus his avatar was hawt
lol
It actually started as a joke but then we just went for it. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Obunagawe
138
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Posted - 2013.06.16 09:27:00 -
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I don't know why mittens even wrote anything.
Should have just said
"Once upon a time, goons won 120 bil in prizes. The end." |
Ghazu
597
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Posted - 2013.06.16 09:28:00 -
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so likes-circle jerking is more acceptible than bloc voting, lol 40,000 "earned" http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
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