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Kimentor
Sneaky Bastards. Mildly Intoxicated
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Posted - 2013.06.06 22:18:00 -
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This sounds like it'd be alot of fun
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
105
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:20:00 -
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Here's my idea for this:
Instead of having every match have identical ruleset (bring anything and everything), why not have set ship size guidelines that ramp up over the entire tournament? Instead of just playing these showmatches in the time between the Bo5 finals, spread them between the two studio weekends during as a start to the intermission (a halftime show if you will), culminating in the final day showmatches where everything is allowed.
Basically, the way it is now I dont think we will see anything particularly interesting or entertaining like 12v12 noobships or 12v12 t1 cruisers because everyone will just bring out their big guns. Adding in more matches with more specific rule guidelines both gives interested groups with smaller budgets an opportunity to compete without getting totally wrecked, as well introduces more parity so the matches are more entertaining for both the players and viewers.
I think it is perfectly feasible to have 2+ showmatches per day, even if you just do one at the start of the intermission and after the end of the scheduled broadcast, without having too big of a drain on the EVEtv resources. Just get a couple of the backup casters/community devs to cast these so the main ones can have a break.
Something like this perhaps:
July 27 [Frigate Frenzy]: Match1 - Noobships Only /// Match2 - Frigates and below only July 28 [Cruiser Calamity]: Match1 - T1 cruisers and below only /// Match2 - All Cruisers and below
August 3 [Battle Royale]: Match 1 - Battlecruisers and below /// Match2 - Battleships and below August 4 [Capital Cataclysm]: All Matches - Whatever you want (If 3 matches are able to go, maybe do first one without supercapitals)
If even more matches than this are able to go through, you have fun options like Industrials only (with TiDi) or mono-race throwback matches like 12v12 in Thoraxes or Rifters. The possibilities really are endless for this thing and it seems really really fun.
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Psychotic Monk
Evil Trade Market
1264
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Posted - 2013.06.07 00:15:00 -
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My friends and I have evolved beyond the alliance structure, but I'm sure we would find an interesting team to field for this if you'd let us. [url]http://belligerentundesirables.com/[/url] |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
6386
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Posted - 2013.06.07 00:28:00 -
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Destoya wrote:Here's my idea for this:
Instead of having every match have identical ruleset (bring anything and everything), why not have set ship size guidelines that ramp up over the entire tournament? Instead of just playing these showmatches in the time between the Bo5 finals, spread them between the two studio weekends during as a start to the intermission (a halftime show if you will), culminating in the final day showmatches where everything is allowed.
Basically, the way it is now I dont think we will see anything particularly interesting or entertaining like 12v12 noobships or 12v12 t1 cruisers because everyone will just bring out their big guns. Adding in more matches with more specific rule guidelines both gives interested groups with smaller budgets an opportunity to compete without getting totally wrecked, as well introduces more parity so the matches are more entertaining for both the players and viewers.
I think it is perfectly feasible to have 2+ showmatches per day, even if you just do one at the start of the intermission and after the end of the scheduled broadcast, without having too big of a drain on the EVEtv resources. Just get a couple of the backup casters/community devs to cast these so the main ones can have a break.
Something like this perhaps:
July 27 [Frigate Frenzy]: Match1 - Noobships Only /// Match2 - Frigates and below only July 28 [Cruiser Calamity]: Match1 - T1 cruisers and below only /// Match2 - All Cruisers and below
August 3 [Battle Royale]: Match 1 - Battlecruisers and below /// Match2 - Battleships and below August 4 [Capital Cataclysm]: All Matches - Whatever you want (If 3 matches are able to go, maybe do first one without supercapitals)
If even more matches than this are able to go through, you have fun options like Industrials only (with TiDi) or mono-race throwback matches like 12v12 in Thoraxes or Rifters. The possibilities really are endless for this thing and it seems really really fun.
This is the kind of thing that would be great if we could fit matches into earlier days, but since we're compressing the tournament into 3 weekends we won't have any time to spare until the final day.
At most we'll be looking for 2-3 matches, all on the last Sunday. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
106
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Posted - 2013.06.07 03:05:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
At most we'll be looking for 2-3 matches, all on the last Sunday.
Welp
Still think controlling the shiptypes would be the better/more fun option, just because I want to see an outright brawl without any of the theorycrafting and metagame from the main tournament, not just see some poor battleships get demolished by carriers or something similar. |
Largueles Amarr
La Famille Amarr
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:55:00 -
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Why is there only 1 like button ? I'd need a thousand. Can't wait to see that happening. |
Wey'oun
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2013.06.07 09:10:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Jonas Sukarala wrote:mm... besides 15 RR carriers and whole Capital fleets it could be fascinating watch.. how about a no caps rule i can't imagine them being interesting or fun to watch. Caps at 20x TiDi would be fun
PLZ PLZ PLZ let PL bring titans.
Then ill bring 12 Armor machs and bump them out one by one. :D |
Slutty Underwear
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 10:26:00 -
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@CCP Fozzie
Can you confirm if I can be in a match even of I am not part of an alliance? I Really want to see a Revenant |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6664
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Posted - 2013.06.07 10:46:00 -
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I think we may make an appearance to this one! It looks insane :)
P.S. Can we cyno in to the field with this? Or is that not allowed? |
Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
63393
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Posted - 2013.06.07 10:58:00 -
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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:23:00 -
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Garmon wrote:Holy **** I love you, this is hilarious, I am very impressed with everything this year, everything is getting better and it can only get better in the future
Every one appreciates everything that is being done
Hopefully you can put the dudes that decide to field supers against each other, would you have any control at all in terms of having team x fight team y based on what comps they bring?
Maybe there could be some sort of application process where teams could submit what setup they plan on using a few days before the finals, that way, you could screen the applications so that we'd only see the best fights possible, using your tourney experience you could pair up the teams that you expect to be the closest/fun match, otherwise there might be too many white washes
To guarantee that people bring what they tell you and show up with it, you could have some sort of plex requirement to be considered to get rid of any potential time waster
This is exactly what we are looking for input on. This is something we want to do for the community so we want the community to have input on how we do this. I like this idea a lot!
As for the number of matches. Essentially we will look at how many matches we have slots for and then look at how many teams we have volunteering to take part. If we have 4 lists of 12 people ready to take part we will do 2 matches. |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:27:00 -
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Slutty Underwear wrote:@CCP Fozzie Can you confirm if I can be in a match even of I am not part of an alliance? I Really want to see a Revenant We won't necessarily place an alliance requirement on this match in the sense of you having to be in the alliance, but the team would be an alliance team and you would simply have to convince the participating volunteer alliance to let you fly with them.
I think that best solves this issue and allows for interested individuals with deep pockets that don't belong to an alliance to take part should they want to wave their epeen a bit. |
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CCP Veritas
C C P C C P Alliance
743
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:46:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:P.S. Can we cyno in to the field with this? Or is that not allowed? I'll killjoy this one and say no. We have to ensure that we can account for all people we move so we ensure they get moved back and cynos make that difficult. CCP Veritas - Senior Programmer - EVE Software |
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6686
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:47:00 -
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Can we cloak Black Ops on field? |
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CCP Veritas
C C P C C P Alliance
743
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:51:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Can we cloak Black Ops on field? I don't see why not. CCP Veritas - Senior Programmer - EVE Software |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:51:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Can we cloak Black Ops on field? Well.... No holds barred? I guess the best way to tackle this question is with more questions. Do you think cloaked black ops should be allowed? If so, on what grounds? What will it add/subtract from the entertainment value of the match? What potential problem do you see with allowing it?
I would like to stress that we don't want to be the guys on this that just straight up hand you the rules. By posting in this thread you are helping us create the rules for this. At this time, there are very few rules that we have thought about and that is where you guys come in. |
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Bob Shaftoes
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:00:00 -
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I would love to so something cool like a cruiser or frigate FFA right there in the middle of the arena. Screw the teams, every man for themselves :P |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
22682
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:21:00 -
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Bob Shaftoes wrote:I would love to so something cool like a cruiser or frigate FFA right there in the middle of the arena. Screw the teams, every man for themselves :P
That would be something RVB could provide.
So what do you say, Bob? RVB and Rote doing a 24man FFA? I am pretty sure I can talk the leadership into that idea :) We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:03:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Bob Shaftoes wrote:I would love to so something cool like a cruiser or frigate FFA right there in the middle of the arena. Screw the teams, every man for themselves :P That would be something RVB could provide. So what do you say, Bob? RVB and Rote doing a 24man FFA? I am pretty sure I can talk the leadership into that idea :) What about a 100 man FFA? Or better yet, a 4 team 12 man battle royale? |
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Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
197
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:12:00 -
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or twelve four man teams Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
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Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1272
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:19:00 -
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My problem with this situation is two-fold.
The natural part of the game where Super Caps are win buttons is going to come out. Then they're going to meet in an unwieldly stalemate scenario.
It's going to be basically impossible to kill a group of supers in under 15 minutes, not to mention 10.
I would LOVE to see a Super die on live EVE TV on TQ, don't get me wrong.
So, this is what I recommend.
A) You can field ONE Titan and ONE Supercarrier max. B) You can not field Triage carriers.
Other than that, it is a complete no-ships barred exhibition match.
Where I am. |
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1272
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:22:00 -
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I like the idea that the Exhibition match may not be restricted to Tournament teams.
Make it a separate PLEX Fee if they are accepted to the Exhibition Match based on a submitted setup. The setups would be published and unchangeable after they are paired up (per the recommendation above)
Where I am. |
FistyMcBumBasher
Calamitous-Intent
54
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:35:00 -
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CCP Bro wrote:Mizhir wrote:Bob Shaftoes wrote:I would love to so something cool like a cruiser or frigate FFA right there in the middle of the arena. Screw the teams, every man for themselves :P That would be something RVB could provide. So what do you say, Bob? RVB and Rote doing a 24man FFA? I am pretty sure I can talk the leadership into that idea :) What about a 100 man FFA? Or better yet, a 4 team 12 man battle royale?
12 team 4 man battle royale would be a bit more entertaining and also a lot harder to game. |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:38:00 -
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Thanks for that input Bloodpetal I like where this idea is heading and I feel most people are on the same page with not allowing or encouraging 12 v 12 titan match and triage carriers.
Also not out of the question is to do a PLEX pool for the teams participating and having the winner take all? Yes? No? |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 13:39:00 -
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FistyMcBumBasher wrote:CCP Bro wrote:Mizhir wrote:Bob Shaftoes wrote:I would love to so something cool like a cruiser or frigate FFA right there in the middle of the arena. Screw the teams, every man for themselves :P That would be something RVB could provide. So what do you say, Bob? RVB and Rote doing a 24man FFA? I am pretty sure I can talk the leadership into that idea :) What about a 100 man FFA? Or better yet, a 4 team 12 man battle royale? 12 team 4 man battle royale would be a bit more entertaining and also a lot harder to game. It would also be a logistical nightmare to manage on our end haha But not impossible.. |
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6693
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:07:00 -
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CCP Bro wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Can we cloak Black Ops on field? Well.... No holds barred? I guess the best way to tackle this question is with more questions. Do you think cloaked black ops should be allowed? If so, on what grounds? What will it add/subtract from the entertainment value of the match? What potential problem do you see with allowing it? I would like to stress that we don't want to be the guys on this that just straight up hand you the rules. By posting in this thread you are helping us create the rules for this. At this time, there are very few rules that we have thought about and that is where you guys come in.
Ok so, having cloaked black ops is definitely a bonus. But, I only want it coz we're called Suddenly Spaceships. and we cant be sudden if we're all there already. That would just be Gradually Spaceships, or, Already Spaceships. Can't have that |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
171
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:09:00 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:CCP Bro wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Can we cloak Black Ops on field? Well.... No holds barred? I guess the best way to tackle this question is with more questions. Do you think cloaked black ops should be allowed? If so, on what grounds? What will it add/subtract from the entertainment value of the match? What potential problem do you see with allowing it? I would like to stress that we don't want to be the guys on this that just straight up hand you the rules. By posting in this thread you are helping us create the rules for this. At this time, there are very few rules that we have thought about and that is where you guys come in. Ok so, having cloaked black ops is definitely a bonus. But, I only want it coz we're called Suddenly Spaceships. and we cant be sudden if we're all there already. That would just be Gradually Spaceships, or, Already Spaceships. Can't have that Someone reserve the alliance name "Already Spaceships" please! |
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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
22701
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Posted - 2013.06.07 14:43:00 -
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CCP Bro wrote:Thanks for that input Bloodpetal I like where this idea is heading and I feel most people are on the same page with not allowing or encouraging 12 v 12 titan match and triage carriers. Also not out of the question is to do a PLEX pool for the teams participating and having the winner take all? Yes? No?
I would rather want it without a prize. So the purpose is the fight itself and only that. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
63452
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Posted - 2013.06.07 15:01:00 -
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It Will be GLORIOUS!
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
6696
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Posted - 2013.06.07 15:15:00 -
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CCP Bro wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:CCP Bro wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Can we cloak Black Ops on field? Well.... No holds barred? I guess the best way to tackle this question is with more questions. Do you think cloaked black ops should be allowed? If so, on what grounds? What will it add/subtract from the entertainment value of the match? What potential problem do you see with allowing it? I would like to stress that we don't want to be the guys on this that just straight up hand you the rules. By posting in this thread you are helping us create the rules for this. At this time, there are very few rules that we have thought about and that is where you guys come in. Ok so, having cloaked black ops is definitely a bonus. But, I only want it coz we're called Suddenly Spaceships. and we cant be sudden if we're all there already. That would just be Gradually Spaceships, or, Already Spaceships. Can't have that Someone reserve the alliance name "Already Spaceships" please!
I see a Renter alliance name coming on...
We already have matching tickers!
Holding Corp: [WHYN0] Alliance: [CYN0]
Genius. |
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