"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".

Welcome to our disfunctional familly

hi, i'm the weird grumpy uncle no one likes to talk to.

Welcome to our disfunctional familly

hi, i'm the weird grumpy uncle no one likes to talk to.

Nice one on taking the fearless approach to being a girl :D

Next time you're on join these two channels: "wgoe=public" and "EVE tutors"

WGoE stands for Women Gamers of EVE, the public one is where you can hang out and request interview with an admin to get into the girls only one. I hang around in the public one :3

EVE Tutors is a helping community sort of chat where a collection of newbs and vets can hang out and help each other. Much more casual environment than the official help channels, more personal too as people get to know you :D

What's this? Surely, you're too perfect a fit for the game to really exist.

Welcome to EVE, enjoy your stay.

True, time to just dive in and learn through doing. it looks like yes, I should join a corp. for awhile. I did try downloading the Vivox but I got an incompatibility error. Will try again. Thanks for all the help guys.

...and just in case you had any delusions about it: prepare to be the target of lots of sexual innuendos and general drama due to your gender.

Do you mean the voice thing from the EVEGate website? I wouldn't worry about it, not many corps use in-game voice anyway.

More likely you'll want teamspeak 3 or mumble.

The tutors chat as a teamspeak we use on occasion and WgoE intervirews are done in voice chat, usually something like TS too :D

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

Don't forget to drunkt in the jekd and use the ploates to binkle the stinkle.



...and noone ever really quits they just take a break then they come back to remember why they left. If you look through the "Hi, I tried this game X years ago and didn't like it but want to give it another shot...what should I do" threads you find these are the same people with the "RAAAAGGGEEE I QUITS" threads from years ago.

If you have a girl's voice use it to rob lonely neckbeards. Shake whatcha mama gave ya.

I wouldn't take too much notice of the rage quitters. Bear in mind that there several hundred thousand people subscribed and even if a tiny percentage of them rage quit publicly on the forums that is still going to be a few posts.

Have fun.

Don't forget to drunkt in the jekd and use the ploates to binkle the stinkle.

big wall o' text

Some people are just fine not PvPing. Everyone says that EVE is so much better for a sandbox - where you can do whatever you want - yet then say that "you aren't playing it right".

In Eve there is always PvP. CCP has tried to nerf it down a ton, but still a player can come pee in your cheerios at any time. Those that don't understand that provide tears that fuel my black heart. That said, every kind of PvP I've engaged in someone else has said its not "real" PvP. But sensi say, "always cheat; if you're in a fair fight you have bad tactics."

...Most videogames have it built right into the logic that you will win. Those games want you to have a positive experience so you'll buy the sequel. In Eve there is no guarantee you'll win. Even in the awful PvE which you can win at 100% of the time, another player can come in and gank you, or take the loot drop you needed to complete the mission and you'll loose. The only way to "win" at Eve is to fight for it. Even then, some days you'll be the windshield and some days you'll be the bug.

You need a good attitude for the times you're the bug. A learning attitude. My kickboxing instructor told me that we don't learn from our successes, we learn from failure. So you have to be willing to learn when your ship explodes. If you rage you won't learn anything and you'll provide precious tears Eve pilots love to collect. I had my Venture ganked in week 3 of Eve by a pirate. That guy became my first Eve friend. Provided me tons of information on protecting myself from guys just like him. I eventually became his scout for other ganks. It was great and he's still my friend today.

One final bit of advice: Don't listen to the carebears. You don't have to wait until you have 20mil skillpoints to do something fun. Get some friends in frigates and go camp a lowsec gate some where. With 30 days training you can be sitting in a stealth bomber cloaked up in null waiting for your first bombing run to start with Bombers Bar. 10 hours of training and you can join up with the New Order and gank miners for fun and profit. Not sure how much training, but not much, and you can sit in a Merlin and lock and jam those same New Order gankers, saving a miner and watching faction police blow up the gankers. If you can get into a null alliance you can be a tackler in a frigate on day 1 tackling ships bigger than you and helping your alliance mates kill it.

There are tons of things you can do in Eve that don't require you to have a time machine back to 2007 so you have the skillpoints. Resist the urge to spend your first several months cycling the mining lasers or rescuing that freakin' damsel.

Yeah, I don't see myself spending months on PvE, in fact, it's a little odd to me the notion of fearing PvP in the first place. It's pixels for God's sake. If I find myself limiting my play style it'll likely be isk related more than anything else.

It may be pixels but ships (and modules) in EVE take a long time to train for and are very costly usually. I think that's why people take PvP a little more seriously in EVE than in other MMOs.

Yep, maybe I'll even get a new toaster out of it.

Yeah, I don't see myself spending months on PvE, in fact, it's a little odd to me the notion of fearing PvP in the first place. It's pixels for God's sake. If I find myself limiting my play style it'll likely be isk related more than anything else.

Wait until you actually feel it.

Last night a newb in a frigate challenged me to a duel.

I popped him in under a minute and I continued about my day.

Later that night I went ratting in lowsec waiting for someone to try and shoot me.

Even though I was prepared as soon as a I saw the hurricane and thorax land on the grid my heart rate doubled.

It's awesome.....

Aw man, there are gonna be some really blue balled manbabies out there less some assets. I almost blew coffee all over my keyboard.

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

It's called adrenaline and it's quite common.

It's sad that you gain happiness by that.

someone has been abusing illegal combat boosters again

People freaking out about what happens in a video game? Yeah, that does make me all kinds of happy.. I can tell because I'm laughing so hard. I once ganked a guy who then came to the forums to cry. That was the best.

Me I've been ganked a few times, lost some ships while fighting. Never cried. Just learned. I usually ask the pilots that beat me how they did it or what I could have done differently. Everyone I've asked has been cordial and helpful. The same way I am to anyone who asks when their ship suddenly explodes when I'm nearby. But cry and wail about it, and I start laughing too hard to type.

I've spent days reading up on strategy and it all looks like this to me:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

Welcome to EVE.

Speak to you soon as I saw you in my channel briefly =)

OMGLMAO this is probably the forum quote of the year! Perfect and adorable! Great attitude too, you're off to an excellent start. Now get out there and space like a boss!

This is pretty much the best description of being a newbie in Eve that I have ever read. Its always great seeing people ask for advice and get huge bodies of text full of terminology that newbies would have no idea what 90% of it meant. Good luck with the learning curve, its fun!

Edit: I saw you are a RL female. Lucky you. Join corps, get on voice coms, and use that to rob neckbeards blind. Rinse and repeat. They will literally line up to give you free stuff and isk.

This one will really get you both laughing:

Yesterday I opened my skill queue to reorder and I *think* I inadvertently drug all the rest of the queue into one skill, ie: Frigate 5. Now it shows 8 more days to train and a total of some 500K+ SP. I also can't train anything else now because none of them now fit in the queue.

Yeah, I know.

How do I undo this mess? I can't find a way to open the Frigate 5 and drag the rest back out.

I just subbed a couple of days ago (hi everyone) after a 2 wk. trial but only a few hours of that used, so I have zero idea what I'm doing. Meanwhile I've been reading, reading, reading to try and lessen the learning curve, and have seen so many Disillusioned-I-Quit posts from people who've seemingly played quite awhile and I just don't get it.

I can see quitting for various reasons: time management problems, frustration with the learning curve/yourself and your own inabilities, eventual boredom, lack of money, and yes, even personal conflict with the politics of the game, but what I don't understand is quitting because the game proved itself to be what it was when you signed on. In a game that's remarkably complex it's the one aspect that seems so simple and transparent.

I have no idea what I want to do or be yet and I won't be surprised if I rage or pittykitty when I get scammed, betrayed, podded repeatedly, etc. but I see this game essentially as an rpg for every person who plays it. Even if you spend your time trading out of game, you're playing that role. You can play the role of a benevolent and helpful pilot who aspires to elevate and educate, you can play the role of the biggest as*hat who ever walked the face of the earth, you can play it as anything in between, or even both simultaneously. It's the wild wild west and the civil war and a a social experiment and a sandbox and an mmorpg and a rpg and and a fps all in one.

What keeps me enthralled with the whole idea of this game isn't even the gameplay, it's the people behind it and the notion that the turd who pods me and laffs is just as likely to be somebody I become good pals with after I dry my tears as he is to become my mortal enemy. The troll who talks exclusively memespeak may just as easily be a lawyer with a wife and 4 kids, and the acerbic, feminist-leaning activist may be a basement dwelling neckbeard with special needs. I've never seen an online game or environment with the level of intelligence or complexity or variety of this one, and I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about the players themselves.

The way I see it is, I've (hopefully) set myself up to win no matter if/when/why I ever decide to stop playing so long as I don't forget why I loved it when I signed up. I spent my few first trial days logging, standing in CQs, staring into space like a catatonic, being completely overwhelmed, and logging off. I play on a Mac and none of my keys work for the game. I missed earning the extra isk for completing a mission within 2 hours because I couldn't find the asteroid belt. My skill queue probably makes zero sense whatsoever.

I've spent days reading up on strategy and it all looks like this to me:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

And I love this game already. What is wrong with me? i'm a female too, and I thought about hiding it but eff that, and if I ever alt-up they'll be female as well. Now if I could just find the skill book the NPC agent swears is in my P&P folder. Even the agents lie!

How do I undo this mess? I can't find a way to open the Frigate 5 and drag the rest back out.

For what it is worth, I happily accept questions and such via EVE-mail. I've also lost count how many times I've helped people dispatch Dagan.

Post leading into the rabbit-hole of links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2155469#post2155469

Few more links:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2026502#post2026502

EVE is really not that complicated. EVE jargon is incredibly complicated.

Welcome to our disfunctional familly



This part is pretty accurate.

Scary part is that after a while it even starts to make perfect sense.

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples."

Scary part is that after a while it even starts to make perfect sense.

I think you fitted taht F235 wrong. You should clearly have a foaiwejfio5092, it'll save on cap.


On another note,
Welcome to Eve!!

I am a freshy just like yourself (well my character should be younger than yours....)

Welcome to Eve!

As a mac user you may find this really helpful to get the most from your eve experience:
http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

As for why some people truly quit after years of playing, beyond the typical "I QUIT! rawr!!!" breaks due to momentary frustration, Eve has some history, events. You might say things have happened.

Player/customer trusts/expectations overwhelmingly breached. These experiences have given some people reasons to finally recognize they weren't enjoying themselves. That some things just weren't cool. You might say it was perceived that the damage of these events, (events they as players had zero control over) were enough to give them reason to truly quit and never come back.

Yet if you can accept that sometimes these things happen, you'll be fine (or you'll completely quit 3 years from now when some genuinely unfair event happens to you as a customer / subscriber / client).