I see absolutely no problem here. It used to be hard and loot value was higher, now exploration is a 'starter' profession and almost as easy as mining and so get what you deserve i.e. 1-2 mil decryptors. There were prosoped a bunch of idiotic ideas like:
-adding faction modes. That would simply crash their prices as well as even more players will start exploring
-adding specialization skills. The game is already full of unnecessary SP requirements that players have to grind.
-adding rats. Kind of to promote dual-boxing, right?

Easy mode = trash loot. Fair?

P.S. It probably will settle at some point. Inventors might decide that decryptors now are worthy for modules as well. Now demand don't seem to be too elastic (but give it a time).

I spent a good amount of time doing exploration since odyssey dropped and i've been tripping over DED sites left and right. Consider leaving high sec.

That's the catch.
JF, Black Ops and Marauder.

Anything else you don't need a decryptor. The meta base will get the copy. Anything else, you are competing with T2 BPO's and nothing will break the advantage.

Just did a relic site in low, got a bunch of trade goods (worth functionally nothing) and yes I grabbed 5 spew cans from each of the "relics." In the past doing an archaeology or salvage site in low was worth at least a couple of million between bounties and the salvage. No way is this worth risking a buzzard plus fit plus my clone.

Look who didn't bother to read anything before whining, guys. Look.

It's this guy.

Blaming someone because they don't know or use the cargo scanner method is dumb.

He was just doing the site as it was intended.

Implying that using a cargo scanner to scan cargo is unintended?

Considering the ability to do so didn't happen until the day before release, I would say no.

We're revisiting the loot but a lot of this is due to the sheer increase in number of people using the feature. Six times more people doing it makes a huge supply side change! The data and relic sites in particular are seeing a awful lot of visitors. Things will obviously adjust as people drift off to other things and in part the depressed prices for the loot will help with that as it will move on those who are just taking part in the immediate gold rush post changes.

Look who didn't bother to read anything before whining, guys. Look.

It's this guy.

Always a pleasure to be attacked by a forum troll for not being up to date on undocumented "features" of a brand new expansion.

Back to your bridge, the grownups would like to actually discuss this messed up system.

The only idiotic thing is your incoherent and condescending babbling. It was harder because of rats and higher skill barrier. Now that's suddenly idiotic? But the easy mode is idiotic too and people deserve getting crap loot, right? Gotcha.
How about some constructive comments instead.

No, next you will dumb down invention. Then the market can really crash.

Hey, how about an invention mini game! You can even have beakers and stuff!

CCP's goal is to nerf your isk so they buff their cash. OP doesn't understand this?

We're revisiting the loot but a lot of this is due to the sheer increase in number of people using the feature. Six times more people doing it makes a huge supply side change! The data and relic sites in particular are seeing a awful lot of visitors. Things will obviously adjust as people drift off to other things and in part the depressed prices for the loot will help with that as it will move on those who are just taking part in the immediate gold rush post changes.

Changing loot tables will not accomplish anything becuase it will not adress the issue you have created.

"Exploration" is to much hello kitty level now.

We're revisiting the loot but a lot of this is due to the sheer increase in number of people using the feature. Six times more people doing it makes a huge supply side change! The data and relic sites in particular are seeing a awful lot of visitors. Things will obviously adjust as people drift off to other things and in part the depressed prices for the loot will help with that as it will move on those who are just taking part in the immediate gold rush post changes.

That's the catch.
JF, Black Ops and Marauder.

Anything else you don't need a decryptor. The meta base will get the copy. Anything else, you are competing with T2 BPO's and nothing will break the advantage.

Guess that explains why the smart rich guys holding T2 BPO's were dumping them like mad a couple weeks before Odyssey was released.

Invention costs are becoming a joke, T2 raw material costs have taken a massive dump.
The payback period on T2 BPO's just doubled.

It's pretty well documented by now, and you're not discussing, is the thing.

Your post was a whine post, and it wasn't even a moderately legitimate whine post because you hadn't actually bothered to educate yourself on the workings of the system first. It was an ignorant whine post.

Please, tell me what you imagine that could possibly contribute to a discussion.

Maybe the concept of data means nothing to you. I have been doing exploration since you had to use different probes for different types of sites. I did exploration in the new system the way the feature was described. I got crap results. That is what the average user of this feature can expect.

Also even after using the cargo scanner on several hi sec relic sites I still got next to nothing for the effort. The amount of salvage was miniscule and the other stuff remains trade goods that are effectively valueless.

Sisi

How about this: low the loot drops in high sec, where these sites can be farmed without risk, and increase the loot drop in low/null, where there is risk.