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Samroski
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:35:00 -
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Yes, the idea is totally insane. As a challenge, it is definitely appealing.
To compete with Jita, the hub needs to be in Forge, otherwise might as well buff Amarr or one of the other hubs. A site which is closer to the other hubs than Jita may be another requirement. Otherwise New Caldari seems ok to me, though the location needs to be discussed thoroughly. If the hub is not in Forge, a number of possibilities open up, though it would again need to be in Caldari space to compete with Jita, otherwise it'll become like any other minor hub.
I pledge 20b towards this project, if it ever gets off the ground. Probably maintain orders for a lot more. Just a drop in the ocean that you'll require to make your goal a reality :) Any colour you like. |

Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.11 05:38:00 -
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Esyavore Lando wrote:I checked the low sec access of New Caldari . Its slighly better than Jita.
New Caldari - Aurohunen : 3 Jumps (Jita 4 ) New Caldari - Pakkonen: 4 Jumps (Jita 4 ) New Caldari - Tama: 4 Jumps (Jita 4 ) New Caldari - Jan: 4 Jumps (Jita 5 ) New Caldari - Mara: 4 Jumps (Jita 5 ) New Caldari Passari: 5 Jumps (Jita 5) New Caldari - Maila (Forge) 9 Jumps (Jita 10)
Some demand is already there. Today I sold an item for 54 million in New Caldari which costed 25 in Jita at the time. I guess because of traffic jam.
Also I checked the area around Kaaputenen but didnt find a satisfying place. So is New Caldari one jump further away when coming from Amarr or Gallente space? Does one have to pass through Jita to get to New Caldari?
I do not think it is a good idea to bank on not being able to get into Jita, or logging in alts into Jita to block it up. The new hub should attract customers without relying entirely on the traffic jam. Yes, certainly take advantage of the jam to establish the hub, but the jam may not last long, if CCP have any sense.
Why don't we just dump lots of stuff in New Caldari and see if it sells? Which station to use?
Also: another place one jump from Jita which is reasonably well established is Soebeski. The Caldari Navy station there has a pretty active market, though it is in Lonetrek. There's usually a jam there as well, as people use this route to get to Jita from much of Caldari space. Any colour you like. |

Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:10:00 -
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There is a lot of negativity in this thread, and that's totally understandable. What OP suggests is next to impossible. Plus the fact that apparently previous efforts (and discussions) at establishing hubs have met with failure.
Even though the figures quoted above are in all likelihood reflective of the reality, I love fantasizing and experimentation. I've got stockpiles of all kinds of stuff at Jita rotting away, which I may just all dump at New Caldari or wherever. Taxes and fees may be an issue in the greater scheme of things, but somehow they don't bother me.
Like all such projects, a critical mass needs to be achieved, and then the process becomes self-sustaining. What exactly the critical mass is, I have little idea, but it is likely to be a fraction of the total assets currently at Jita. 30%? less? more Any colour you like. |

Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.11 16:19:00 -
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Grozen wrote: There is no negativity just simply facts, the money and human power required is out of our reach.The only cheaper way for this to happen would be if there is burn jita events 24/7 for several months without break and the whole operation will still cost trillions for the entity that tries to do that.Do we have an alliance willing to do that this is what you should ask yourself.
So you're saying that only the goons can do it, and even they don't want to?
btw I agree with you. Am getting more and more depressed with every nail in the coffin... Any colour you like. |

Samroski
Games Inc. The Night Crew Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:43:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Esyavore Lando wrote: there are 946 Manufacture Slots producing right now 1 Jump around Jita in Forge alone. And way more if you go 2 or 3 Jumps.
Yea. That's a small proportion of the number of sellers who produce stuff and move it to Jita to sell it. Esyavore Lando wrote: I care. Everytime I arrive at Jita I think: man is this ugly!
So, campaign for CCP to pimp Jita? This is a more realistic goal, even though chances of success are still negligible.
Lets ask for a lava moon, and 5k cap, to be increased to 10k over 5 years.
How about some lap dancers for the traders rotting away in their quarters? Only at Jita.
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