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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Pit Boss on 10/11/2005 19:21:49
Yes, you heard it correctly!
MMOCasino.com has received the blessing from GM Panzer, and the Devs themselves to re-open within EVE-Online!
This time around it will be a little different.
MMOCasino is currently seeking dedicated players to run their own casino from MMOCasino!
We are seeking individuals who have already established a reputation within EVE for their honesty, and loyalty to customers. Someone who already runs a successful corporation, has enough ISK to back themselves up, and would like to enjoy the additional benefit of becoming a casino tycoon within EVE.
MMOCasino has been equipped with the tools that one would need to run a casino, as well as recruit agents to help with the load.
The website is still in development, but will be ready within a week or so.
Only a few will be selected, so hurry and apply!
Candidates will need to have the following:
1: Honesty and courteousness, dedication and loyalty to customers regardless of their alliances and affiliations.
2: ALOT of Isk for your initial opening, and you will need to prove that you have it.
3: You must be the CEO of a successful Corporation
4: The time and resources (this could include agents you hire) to accomodate your casino patrons.
5: A corporation website
6: The desire to make ALOT of Isk!
If you are interested, please email the following information to [email protected]
- Character Name
- Corporation Name
- Ammount of isk you plan to open with
- Reason you believe you would make a good casino owner
Thank you, and I hope to hear from some of you soon!
--Pit Boss
Edit:
P.S. Please ignore the content on the website for now. It is not complete. The news, as well as features will be turned back on soon.
Thank you
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:22:00 -
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WOW sounds good. except, I'm one of the few people who own the first quality. I'm honest, RL and in-game. but then, everyone else probably have lots of the rest of the qualities, where as i have 50 isk and two friends.
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:09:00 - [2] - Edit - Quote
BLaDFNAFGLNAFGLNAFGNFDNLAFGL JUST HAD TO GET THAT IN BEFORE THE LOCK WHOOPS CAPS AHEM.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:30:00 -
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I'm glad you're getting it up and running but I think I'd rather make my ISK legitimately rather than opening a casino where the house always has better odds. Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea and every casino RL stacks the odds (that's how they make ISK) but I don't condone it. Winning is temporary, losing is permanant.
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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:36:00 -
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Well, Nyphur, I will not be running my own casino, therefore you can rest assured I have no reason to "stack the odds" so to speak.
My concern is to make my customers happy, and make sure the casinos who operate on the site are making them happy.
The casinos will keep 100% of their proffit, and the games are run by real Vegas Casino rules.
I have no reason to "rig" my games, and the casino owners do not have the ability.
 Originally by: Nyphur
I'm glad you're getting it up and running but I think I'd rather make my ISK legitimately rather than opening a casino where the house always has better odds. Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea and every casino RL stacks the odds (that's how they make ISK) but I don't condone it. Winning is temporary, losing is permanant.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Pit Boss
Well, Nyphur, I will not be running my own casino, therefore you can rest assured I have no reason to "stack the odds" so to speak.
My concern is to make my customers happy, and make sure the casinos who operate on the site are making them happy.
The casinos will keep 100% of their proffit, and the games are run by real Vegas Casino rules.
I have no reason to "rig" my games, and the casino owners do not have the ability.
No, what I'm just saying is that in order to generate profitm, a casino HAS to stack the odds. Fair games of chance produce a statistical net gain of zero. Real Vegas Casinos stack the odds against the player too :).
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:42:00 -
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man this sounds great, owning a Casino in the US is like having a money printer where you get easy money from a bunch of morons who gamble it all. I have no problems with it, I bet running a casino will make you a multibillionare.
If I was a CEO of a corp I would jump on this one.
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Pit Boss
Well, Nyphur, I will not be running my own casino, therefore you can rest assured I have no reason to "stack the odds" so to speak.
My concern is to make my customers happy, and make sure the casinos who operate on the site are making them happy.
The casinos will keep 100% of their proffit, and the games are run by real Vegas Casino rules.
I have no reason to "rig" my games, and the casino owners do not have the ability.
No, what I'm just saying is that in order to generate profitm, a casino HAS to stack the odds. Fair games of chance produce a statistical net gain of zero. Real Vegas Casinos stack the odds against the player too :).
 Jeeze and that stops the morons from spending life savings throwing coins in them one arm bandits :) hey free will.
I would like to open a pawnshop where you can pawn your dreadnaughts,modules to pay off gambling debts
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX
I would like to open a pawnshop where you can pawn your dreadnaughts,modules to pay off gambling debts
I'll be ur manager, i'll sit back, relax, and take 10%.
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:09:00 - [2] - Edit - Quote
BLaDFNAFGLNAFGLNAFGNFDNLAFGL JUST HAD TO GET THAT IN BEFORE THE LOCK WHOOPS CAPS AHEM.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: HUGO DRAX
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Pit Boss
Well, Nyphur, I will not be running my own casino, therefore you can rest assured I have no reason to "stack the odds" so to speak.
My concern is to make my customers happy, and make sure the casinos who operate on the site are making them happy.
The casinos will keep 100% of their proffit, and the games are run by real Vegas Casino rules.
I have no reason to "rig" my games, and the casino owners do not have the ability.
No, what I'm just saying is that in order to generate profitm, a casino HAS to stack the odds. Fair games of chance produce a statistical net gain of zero. Real Vegas Casinos stack the odds against the player too :).
Jeeze and that stops the morons from spending life savings throwing coins in them one arm bandits :) hey free will.
I would like to open a pawnshop where you can pawn your dreadnaughts,modules to pay off gambling debts
Pawnshops spread like viruses when they start building casinos in your town....wonder why....
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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:52:00 -
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Ahh yes of course. That is common knowledge. As the saying goes "The house always wins".
Casino games are designed to have a slight advantage. Usually not much though. About the worst advantage you may see in an honest casino is about a 1.5% advantage. (I could be wrong on that, but that is what I gathered when learning about the games to develop them)
But there is always the chance that you could turn 1 credit into a million.
It's all in the luck of the roll. :)
Originally by: Nyphur
No, what I'm just saying is that in order to generate profitm, a casino HAS to stack the odds. Fair games of chance produce a statistical net gain of zero. Real Vegas Casinos stack the odds against the player too :).
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.10 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Pit Boss
It's all in the luck of the roll. :)
Not according to long-term statistical probability, but then I've never been a gambling person ;).
Good luck with the casino. I know you'll get loads of custom :).
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Prydeless
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:11:00 -
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OMG So I can gamble my isk now!!!!!!!! W0000000000T. Is there gonna be texas hold-em? And how does it work when you win, sounds like a great idea as I LOVE TO GAMBLE 
There goes all my isk 
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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:18:00 -
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Texas Holdem will likely be the next game that I develop as it is in very high demand.
I have had Blackjack on the que for a while as I was re-designing the way the casino worked so that others can run their own casino.
As soon as Blackjack is complete, I will begin looking into Texas Holdem.
You can check out the FAQ on MMOCasino to learn more, however a lot of the content on there is outdated, and will be modified to suit the new format better.
Originally by: Prydeless
OMG So I can gamble my isk now!!!!!!!! W0000000000T. Is there gonna be texas hold-em? And how does it work when you win, sounds like a great idea as I LOVE TO GAMBLE
There goes all my isk
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Thomus
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:18:00 -
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lol - so is this gonna lead to problems to Ore Thievery, extreme piracy where everyone snipes people for cash, also some corp-wallet-theft just to pay for gambling habits?
I'll start a corp called "Corporation for Rehabilitation" and ally it with another corp called "Always Play Sensible", to form the C.R.A.P.S alliance.... ;-)
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Posted - 2005.11.08 23:09:00 - [2] - Edit - Quote
BLaDFNAFGLNAFGLNAFGNFDNLAFGL JUST HAD TO GET THAT IN BEFORE THE LOCK WHOOPS CAPS AHEM.
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prsr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:19:00 -
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More entertainment for the mathematically challenged 
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: prsr
More entertainment for the mathematically challenged
heh, well put ^^.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:33:00 -
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This is an interesting concept. I think I might be interested in adding 'casino magnate' to my repertoire of shady activities. Pit Boss, contact me in-game with detailed info regarding the games your casino plans on running. If I think I stand a chance of gaining money, I'll invest a portion of my obscene wealth in your venture.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:45:00 -
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He wrote respectable CEO Istvaan
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Rider Zane
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:45:00 -
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make the casino source code public and i'll give it a try
otherwise dont worry about it, because as with all online casinos, the person who codes it is the person who actually has the 'win' button.
just a big isk scam waiting to happen imo
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.11.10 20:58:00 -
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I'll go on record as saying EVE can do without this.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:09:00 -
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I worked in a Casino as a camera supervisor. Real casinos (as in not online ones) don't have to and are not cheating you. We had a saying here in regards to the roulette : "Once you changed your money into chips, you alreay lost 10% ". You can't win the roulette unless the dealers helps you and you play zones (Tier, Neighbours, etc.). You can't win at BlackJack unless you are counting (and trust me, you won't win the 2nd time cause, guess what, you've been blacklisted  ). You can't win at Stud Poker (unless you talk with the other players at the table and share info about your cards but any serious casino will evict you for that"
Now on the other hand, you might get lucky. And if you do, take my advice, grab your winnings and never come back. You have no ideea how quickly the gamblig habbit gets you. I had the "privilege" of seeing several people going bankcrupt and more other spending fortunes.
Yes, casinos are money making (or money laundry) machines but the again, so are the cigarette factories, the alcohool factories and lately PC games . Guess why.
Now for online casinos what can I say. I am no programming savy but I think they work on the same basic ideea as the slot machines (aka return % from what is put in the machine, most legislations require 75-90% to be returned). So that usualy means that 90 people have to loose small ammounts so that 10 people win decent amounts and up to 99 people loose so that 1 can hit lucky big time
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:11:00 -
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All I know is I am real interested in this biz. anyhow I would not be surprised if piracy increases lol
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
He wrote respectable CEO Istvaan
Does this buy me some respect?
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Lijah Valencourt
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:35:00 -
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Does this buy me some respect?
It does from me, but then I don't count and I've been told i'm remarkably mercenary for a Gallente. Still, nice 
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prsr
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: prsr on 10/11/2005 21:42:49
Originally by: Khatred
Real casinos (as in not online ones) don't have to and are not cheating you.
Nobody would run a casino if it wouldn't make them money. No casino would offer a specific game if it wouldn't make them money. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the definition of cheating or scamming somehow changes when dealing with gambling.
The only thing that casinos have going for them is that they are actually allowed to run their businesses by local governments which to a lot of people seems to mean that it must be legit. I could tell people to send me 1 million isk and return 100x the money you put in for every 500 people that donate. But somehow thats considered a scam. Casinos do exactly the same thing only they are better at obfuscating the process that you and your money go through to actually win.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Thoris on 10/11/2005 21:46:30
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Drilla
He wrote respectable CEO Istvaan
Does this buy me some respect?
jealousy from some, admiration maybe. Respect. Why?
Edit - just playing devils advocate. You are a colourful character and have done a lot for the game (yada yada). I dont respect your bankbalance, I respect your writing style tho. Do I think you would make a trustworthy casino owner? ...
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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lijah Valencourt
Does this buy me some respect?
It does from me, but then I don't count and I've been told i'm remarkably mercenary for a Gallente. Still, nice
Once I have selected a few candidates, I will have a community poll to allow the players to decide who they trust the most. 50Bil is definately a qualifying attribute, but #1 is the most important to me, and to the players.
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For those of you who have never heard of me before, a little history on MMOCasino.
About 4 months ago, I opened the doors to MMOCasino for the first time to EVE. I didn't really have enough to support large credit values, so each credit was worth only 100isk, with a table limit of 300 credits.
Within the first 2 and a half weeks, I had ammased 230 members, and was beginning to make a little isk. I added the ability to change the credit values to 1000 isk per credit, and the isk started to flood in.
That was about the time CCP had asked me to shut down the casino.
And now after speaking with GM Panzer (and a little begging and groveling as well) :P I have re-built MMOCasino.com to support other players running their own casino.
While I was open, I was showered with compliments and applause from my patrons, and even made a few new friends along the way.
Casinos will have the ability to set their own credit values before they open their doors, and players can see those vlaues before they even register.
There are 4 levels:
Low roller, Mid roller, High roller and Whale.
These are all determined by the casino owner.
Because this is an honest casino, there is the potential risk that I could have lost everything, and there was a time or 2 when my numbers began dropping below my original investment, and I got a little scared... But the more players that joined, the better it did.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.11.10 22:05:00 -
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How does trust factor into it? I figured your system worked by having rich folks put up funds, and letting you manage the games yourself - would I have to personally run games or something? I'd far prefer to simply finance something like this, that way my reputation wouldn't really be a problem.
Just like the mob financed Las Vegas casinos back in the day. The money may be bloody but you can still buy a car with it.
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Pit Boss
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Posted - 2005.11.10 22:12:00 -
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This is an offer for someone to actually control their own casino. Once they have it, they can hire agents to run it for them and collect and payout the isk. Agents will most likely be trusted members of their corporation.
You can speak to whoever starts a casino about investing. I am not in this for the isk.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
How does trust factor into it? I figured your system worked by having rich folks put up funds, and letting you manage the games yourself - would I have to personally run games or something? I'd far prefer to simply finance something like this, that way my reputation wouldn't really be a problem.
Just like the mob financed Las Vegas casinos back in the day. The money may be bloody but you can still buy a car with it.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2005.11.10 22:24:00 -
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Well, that eliminates us. I guess we'll have to stick to simpler ways of taking people's money away from them ;)
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