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Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.15 00:03:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:I paid even more attention to the target flashing this time than I did before.
You say "bright and flashy" and "flashes brightly" and "broken neon light, all it needs now is the buzzer" as if the targets flicker suddenly, irregularly and harshly at full illumination strength, which they don't. A flashing target is only 50% as bright as a regular target, 75% at the very most.
Perhaps a visit to your local ophthalmologist to discus better treatment is in order, maybe followed up by changing your role in Incursions to be logi instead of DPS. Logi very rarely see flashing targets unless they aren't doing their job properly.
The targets do flicker suddenly and randomly in an incursion when there may be multiple targets dying close to each other. You remember when the blink tag was new and tons of websites had blinking text everywhere? Yeah, it's still poor design.
Logi will take a few months of training, and I'd wanted that as an option not a permanent role.
The temp fix is unfortunately blocking off most of the targets with my inventory and only having to see the text flicker. Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:25:00 -
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Salvaging a level 3 mission right now. The targets are blinking quickly 12 times. Even with most of the target covered by my inventory window I still have to close my eyes every couple of targets. I don't know where you're getting "soft blinks" from, or did they change it on the test server already? Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
310
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:31:00 -
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Whether theres a relation to a medical problem or not (and we have no reason not to take OP at their word), it's really damned annoying. I hate the animation, simply because it's obnoxious. - Mission Overhaul - Bridging the PVP / PVE Gap - -áIf the game stops teaching people to fear lowsec, maybe people will start going there? |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:35:00 -
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Perhaps CCP should add ticker box to ESC Menu/General Settings where you are able to disable the graphic image of the targets on the screen similar to how you are able to diable drone models.
With the the ship models gone you could place the Overiew directly in the middle of your screen and lock targets in that manner.
Your condition does sound like epilepsy where the sudden flicker of lights on and off in rapid succession causes the brain to not be able to interpret what it is seeing.
No biggie. We'll just have to get CCP to create a work-around which many might see as very advantegous in large fleet combat where so many model cause the system to lag.
Once the high end combat is completed then the ship models could be turned back on to enjoy missions and other low end combat enviroments. |
Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:01:00 -
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If it was epilepsy it should have been obvious with other games and Eve should have been a problem before Odyssey as well shouldn't it? Although I do tend to avoid bright flashy lights, not a big fan of casinos or casino games, etc.
It just hurts my eyes. I'm not rolling on the floor in a seizure. Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.06.15 21:31:00 -
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As always, I am strongly in favor of feature off options. I like the new target death but I don't expect everyone to agree with me. There are cool features I want to turn off (like the contextual menu) but can't. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. |
Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.18 02:12:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Perhaps CCP should add ticker box to ESC Menu/General Settings where you are able to disable the graphic image of the targets on the screen similar to how you are able to diable drone models.
With the the ship models gone you could place the Overiew directly in the middle of your screen and lock targets in that manner.
Your condition does sound like epilepsy where the sudden flicker of lights on and off in rapid succession causes the brain to not be able to interpret what it is seeing.
No biggie. We'll just have to get CCP to create a work-around which many might see as very advantegous in large fleet combat where so many model cause the system to lag.
Once the high end combat is completed then the ship models could be turned back on to enjoy missions and other low end combat enviroments.
The blinking sounds like a FPS issue where the server is emitting the image of the ship model at lower rate of rate of pixels per second that causes the ship images to blink like they are.
Basically if you place a image of ship on paper over a light and flick the light off and on every second your mind has trouble adjusting to the placement of the object.
But if the same lamp is set to flicker 100 times per second the image appears in a more consistent manner allowing the mind to track it without interuption.
It's the whole of the target that blinks though. The circle that shows damage done to do, the text below, even the icons of the guns you have on it, all of that blinks at once. Not just the ship model inside the target.
If you turned off the targets completely, you wouldn't know how much damage it's taken (which is the situation I'm in after blocking off the targets with my inventory box).
My mind has no trouble tracking the blinks, it blinks 12-15 times. Unless you mean something different from what you're saying.
Anyway, no dev response I guess this problem isn't sexy enough for them. My two accounts looking for another game now. Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2013.06.18 23:17:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:DeLindsay wrote: We have no way of knowing what specific flashy thing would set the OP off. Occam's Razor.
You keep bandying Occam's Razor around like it's a magical sword. It's not: Occam's Razor is simply a statement that one should choose the simplest theory that satisfactorily explains all the available evidence.
I'll accept your opinion on whether someone has a particular medical condition or not when you can show me your medical credentials. In the meantime, insisting that someone is lying because of a situation that you have no problem with yourself is, quite simply, a display of bigotry.
I would suggest to you that there is no other "flashy" effect in game that works quite the same way as the target icons: they are in a fixed location that doesn't change when you move the camera, they are quite bright when present and take no cues from environmental lighting, and they flash from full brightness to darkness very quickly in contrast to, say, explosions.
My experience with light-triggered discomfort is sufficient to believe that someone could have a problem with this specific flashy effect.
Please only apply Occam's Razor when you have a better understanding of the situation than, "I've never seen this, therefore it can't be real." Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.24 17:17:00 -
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Related idea here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=252084 skinnable ui would solve a lot of problems not just for me in this situation but also for colourblind people and stuffs. Target death animation flicker problem #2 Target death animation flicker problem #1 Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE! |
Psychoactive Stimulant
TinklePee
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Posted - 2013.06.24 20:10:00 -
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"Please fix before June 21 I'd like to keep playing EVE!"
Pls go away. |
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serilius Despotist
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:20:00 -
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Xeraphi wrote:I've completely stopped playing the game as I am not physically able to look at the screen during this animation. In an incursion, that results in not looking at the screen at all and logging off. I haven't played the game since Odyssey because of this problem. It's due to a hereditary eye condition that makes my eyes extremely light-sensitive. Funny that this is the only thing in the entire game full of blinking lights that sets it off but there you have it.
The new animation is jarring, painful, and unnecessary. If you want to know if something died just look for the wreck. If a notification really is needed why not just text in the combat log?
I was told to post this in "features and suggestions" because technical support was unable to help. Apparently there's no way to turn this off. Unlike the sexy jump animation that's also making many people sick, it's a little more critical to be unable to look at the screen during ANY combat at all.
If there isn't an option to turn this off, I literally can't play Eve anymore. No missions, no incursions, no pvp if there's a chance of me winning the fight... no fun.
Please give us an option to turn it off or revert the death animation to pre-Odyssey so I can continue playing this wonderful game!
If not, yes you can have my stuff. It's that bad, I'm not joking or exaggerating. I haven't played since Odyssey because of this ui graphic. I'm so sad right now that I can't play this game over one stupid graphic change!
Have you tried just canceling your target lock when they get down to maybe ~20 percent of structure. ? If your in a fleet just let everyone else do that little bit and get started on the next target...
just a thought?
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Xeraphi
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2013.06.25 18:05:00 -
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Solution (shown in a google doc) which allows me to keep playing eve but at reduced functionality.
Pros:
Can play the game again because the blink is reduced Can see which target my guns are on, which targets have already taken damage, and which the drones are on Can pin and unpin quickly to verify IGÇÖm not about to get Concorded by accidentally the logi - and can choose WHEN to unpin based on damage across all the targets
Cons:
CanGÇÖt read text of what IGÇÖm shooting CanGÇÖt unlock targets quickly if the fc changes their mind (maybe can set up a hotkey for this?) CanGÇÖt drag targets around to reorder them quickly (no hotkey possible for this) so must always select the next target via overview
Notes:
EVE ui skin: black; transparency set to 225 Monitor contrast 40% brightness 0% Medium lit room (indoor lighting, GÇ£warmGÇ¥ part of spectrum)
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