The Zealot would take even more training time than the legion (31days just to hop into the hull, compared to 23 days for legion), and I can't imagine it coming anywhere close to the same amount of (cap stable) tank.

HAM legion unless you're purely missioning in amarr space.

i didn't check the numbers but my gut feeling is that an arty sleipnir would do a better job than an absolution.

and just to drive the point home, pretty much any battleship would do even better (except maybe the scorpion).

HAM legion unless you're purely missioning in amarr space.

If I calculate correctly, most of your skill points are spent just being able to sit in an Absolution. I doubt you have a lot of support skills, let alone drone or gunnery skills.

The Legions mobility and range make it a better mission boat than the Absolution. I'm guessing here that you don't have drone skills so you won't miss them on the Legion anyways. You can't pimp the Abso much more to speed up your mission running except equipping a third heat sink. The big dps loss from switching to a Legion is partially due to your support skills since most of your dps comes from your CS skill.

I think switching to a Legion is the better choice but you'll need to train some support skills, especially gunnery skills. Also, Amarr offensive subsystem V is a must and a 4 day train.

I'ld also recommend some dps implants, they're cheap for lasers.

Finally, I think a meta tachyon fitted BS will be MUCH better and cheaper, after you train some support skills: capacitor, drones and gunnery.

Would it still be better even without the T2 pulse?

I would have argued that better damage is preferred over better application - afterall 100% of 500 DPS is less than 70% of 800 DPS. Maybe the best way to say it is that applied damage trumps all, given you have enough tank. And you usually do. :)

-Liang

I don't think an Orcale can do L4s unless you snipe and because you can't use an MJD you have to burn to sniper range which can cause trouble if you get webbed/are taking too much damage.

a tach oracle will work in any mission without webbing frigates right on top of you, if you put an MWD on it, you can kite and snipe almost anything in amarr space.
ofc if you DO get webbed (for example in silence the informant or damsel), you will die in a glorious fire.

Yeah sounds doable, personally never tried it though, you'd have to be pretty ballsy =P

Either case the rats will die laughing well before you can shoot them. Both ships are horrible choices for lvl 4s

Cs5 but can't fly a legion or a zealot. Only 670dps with Cs5. Really? Sad.

Train for a nightmare for lv4. The abso doesn't have any range at all for pve.

If you can't fit an Abso for lvl4's doing it quite well you're doing it wrong sry.

Tag team. Fly with a friend

It's quite fun doing it with another buddy and eventually have remote reps (spider tank), 2 marauders can clean lvl4's so fats it largely compensates for the spread of rewards + you can salvage while shooting.

Cs5 but can't fly a legion or a zealot. Only 670dps with Cs5. Really? Sad.

Train for a nightmare for lv4. The abso doesn't have any range at all for pve.

Skip level 4's, blitz level 3's.

It's quite fun doing it with another buddy and eventually have remote reps (spider tank), 2 marauders can clean lvl4's so fats it largely compensates for the spread of rewards + you can salvage while shooting.

helpful comparison of apoc/abbadon

I'm a bit of a freak, I enjoy doing missions and worse I prefer doing them in an absolution even though I can fly a T2 fit Paladin. It's slower and earns less isk but I find it more fun and engaging.

I've soloed every lvl4 in an absolution and found that beams work a lot better than pulses, change the nano rigs to capacitors and the cap boost to a cap recharger and you should be able to almost perma run guns/ab/repper with a couple of heat sinks.

If you don't have T2 drones train for them, it helps, a lot.

PS, forgot to mention for Enemies Abound 5 of 5 you need to swop out the ab for a mwd & third HS or you will end up in a world of hurt.

I'm a bit of a freak, I enjoy doing missions and worse I prefer doing them in an absolution even though I can fly a T2 fit Paladin. It's slower and earns less isk but I find it more fun and engaging.

I've soloed every lvl4 in an absolution and found that beams work a lot better than pulses, change the nano rigs to capacitors and the cap boost to a cap recharger and you should be able to almost perma run guns/ab/repper with a couple of heat sinks.

If you don't have T2 drones train for them, it helps, a lot.

PS, forgot to mention for Enemies Abound 5 of 5 you need to swop out the ab for a mwd & third HS or you will end up in a world of hurt.

If you prime fun over isk/h take whatever you want and go for it. Unfortunately in this game more than many I've played before you have tons of dudes that can't say a single phrase without isk/h and convert in real money, true psycho nerds.

If you feel good doing it in your Paladin just do it and forget all the nerds with their stupid isk/h, a game is meant to have fun per hour not isk per hour or second/full job.

You're the one doing it right.

Marauders have needed a new bonus in place of the tractor beam since the Noctis was put in the game. Either boost the damage or give it a bonus like the Noctis.


edit: and to the above poster: The Phantasm and ashimmu are god awful at everything. The ashimmu has some use in PvP, but it costs way too much to be used in 99% of the cases.

Let's go with... hmm... RP reasons for why I can't use a battleship