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Ruze
Next Stage Initiative Trans-Stellar Industries
325
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:04:00 -
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Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.
Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.
Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.
Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots. If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that? |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:10:00 -
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I think you're on to something, but I think I have a better idea. Hear me out...
Each agent at every station can only have a dialog up with 1 person at a time. If the agent is busy, you literally have to step in line behind the other pilots. While you are in line, you can chat with your fellow players in line.
Now I know what you are thinking... what if someone in front of you is chatting about nonsense with the agent, right? Well, that's how it is in real life, so why not!
Also, I suggest the agent periodically check his communication device and completely ignore pilots in line. This way it will be more real.
Furthermore, mission agents should be "rightsized." In other words, to save tax isk, a percentage of them- say 25%, should be laid off.
I know, it's a great idea right?! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage
124
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:12:00 -
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And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:18:00 -
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Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?
Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.
If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.
I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage
124
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:22:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic. If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants. I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com
I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets. |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:32:00 -
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Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.
Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:34:00 -
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Kara Vix wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic. If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants. I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets.
Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:34:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.
Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves.
The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used? "One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Sta+˝l |

Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage
125
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:37:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic. If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants. I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets. Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand.
I'll get right on that.. |

Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:41:00 -
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Fernando MRuiz wrote:Q 5 wrote:Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.
Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves. The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used?
Yeah, I got to admit I have never played with a G or F....gay flute. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:41:00 -
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Kara Vix wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic. If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants. I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets. Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand. I'll get right on that..
Sarcasm could be another fine.
Again, visit the website and accept James into your heart as the one and only true saviour of highsec. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:47:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:Fernando MRuiz wrote:Q 5 wrote:Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.
Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves. The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used? Yeah, I got to admit I have never played with a G or F....gay flute. Center for advanced studies, there's a pilot in the wrong class, ----->Special ED that way sir.
Hint: stay at the keyboard and act like a civilized human being in Local. You could chop quite a bit off your budget for ships and put that towards something more useful. I imagine you go through quite a few mining barges a month, eh? "One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Sta+˝l |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2813
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:54:00 -
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OP you ever done missions? It's a punishment in itself. Just **** off and let some of us hisec folk fund for our occasional drunken pvp the way we want. |

Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
4
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Posted - 2013.06.12 06:38:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.
Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.
Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.
Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots.
Because we should definitely make it so folks who have limited play time have even more limited options on what to do - unless they want to go PvP. That should, of course, stay unlimited.
We need to do something about those people who stay in station and do market stuff, though. They aren't out PvPing enough. I know, let's put a timer and by-station limits on buy and sell orders! Make you think twice about whether you REALLY want to sell that module right here, right now, eh?
And why leave out FW pilots? I am sure we can find something to limit for them, too. Wouldn't want them to feel unloved.
/sarcsm off
In all seriousness, why? Heck, as far as I know, you will annoy some of the folks who like to PvP (including those FW guys) because there will be fewer targets of opportunity out there. You aren't introducing 'competition' (because there is no way to compete other than parking in station and camping the mission agents) - you are just introducing scarcity. |

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
296
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Posted - 2013.06.12 06:56:00 -
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/popcorn
Get some more alts in here and we could take this to the big screen. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3667
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:16:00 -
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Elliavir wrote:You aren't introducing 'competition' (because there is no way to compete other than parking in station and camping the mission agents) - you are just introducing scarcity. Competing by camping isn't "real" competition I take it. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Jake Tzestu
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:21:00 -
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What a great idea...then i can just log in every 4 hours do my missions and then go and play something else while i wait for the timer.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3692
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:22:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.
Lets start by making moon goo depletable.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1261
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:30:00 -
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Ruze wrote:Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.
Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.
Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.
Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots.
You seem to think that mission runners, when there are no missions available, will just pop down to lo-sec and get ganked by gangs of pvp fit ships, or go to null-sec and take part in their tedious ego wars.
I am sure you mean well, but. oh dear... This is not a signature. |

Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
667
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:54:00 -
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0/10.
Blah blah make it even and fair, oh but not for FW. So we know you're trolling anyway.
And even if CCP did, so what? If minerals and LP were finite resources, I would only need to do one mission every four hours.
From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |

Ravnik
Choke-Hold
8876
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:55:00 -
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If they made a queue for agents, then surely we would need a queue for undocking  The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3694
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:04:00 -
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Ravnik wrote:If they made a queue for agents, then surely we would need a queue for undocking 
I'm all for orderly queues. Queue for docking, undocking, using a star gate.
Then you can wage war by suppressing star gates, or build empires by enhancing them. Imagine if capsuleers got to contribute to empire upkeep through little things like an LP contribution to improve the throughput of the Jita/Perimeter gate?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8228
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:05:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Lets start by making moon goo depletable.
have you thoroughly considered the repercussions of this idea or do you just ignore them Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
993
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:12:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Kara Vix wrote:And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they? Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic. If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants. I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com
easy way to attempt to limit botting is to have a random number generator that gives you a code when you want to accept a mission, takes a real person 5 seconds to enter it.
Package it as a Mission Runner Authorisation code on the mission acceptance screen or what not. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3694
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Lets start by making moon goo depletable. have you thoroughly considered the repercussions of this idea or do you just ignore them
Let's hear it from the expert, forum warrior Andski! Tell us, great Andski, what the repercussions of moon goo depleting after a few months of heavy extraction would be?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
512
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:14:00 -
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You know... there is a section for these kinds of threads. It's called Features & Ideas Discussions. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
267
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:21:00 -
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I don't agree with the OPs suggestion as-is, but this post was simply so far-off I had to point a few things out.
Elliavir wrote:Because we should definitely make it so folks who have limited play time have even more limited options on what to do - unless they want to go PvP. That should, of course, stay unlimited. PvP and PvE are two extremely different things in an MMO as EVE. A game driven by player interaction should not offer the same results if you opt out of as much player interaction as possiblem, compared to those who opt into as much as possible. PvP is not in the hands of CCP, missions are.
Quote:We need to do something about those people who stay in station and do market stuff, though. They aren't out PvPing enough. I know, let's put a timer and by-station limits on buy and sell orders! Make you think twice about whether you REALLY want to sell that module right here, right now, eh? Why does the market have anything to do with this? The player who buys those modules is, if you didn't know, a player. The competing trader trying to sell his modules instead is also, again maybe you were unaware, a player. "Market PvP" isn't traditionally PvP, but in EVE it very much is. Two players competing to take over the same market, even if they never fire a shot at eachother, can be "Player versus Player" just as much as two corps fighting over a moon. And again, why should CCP suddenly control PvP? They didn't do that before.
Quote:And why leave out FW pilots? I am sure we can find something to limit for them, too. Wouldn't want them to feel unloved. Obviously, FW missions should be made scarce alongside all other missions if missions should be nerfed this way. FW anything else ... Hmm, no. The funny thing for me, however, is that the best counterargument to this has been those who just asked "why", instead of those who tried their best to reason against it. Sometimes, a proposal is actually badly made but when you present it, the detractors are even worse at criticising it, so the bad criticism makes your proposal better by comparison. I know this from IRL experience, it really does work.
So, to those who don't agree with the OP, think about your own argument before you make your opponents argument better by comparison! |

Dame Lanfear
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:31:00 -
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I seriously doubt any game company would look at limiting content (especially one used by over 70 percent of its player base) as a good thing. Stop trying to find ways to rain on someone elses parade and just enjoy the bloody game already. |

marVLs
179
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:36:00 -
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What did i just read that's the stupidest idea i read here from long time  |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
716
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:37:00 -
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in before closing |
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