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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:44:00 -
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 Originally by: j0sephine
"Look for characters in mining barges with chinese names. (..)
For example I just found 3 characters called Kissboy07, Kissboy09 and Kissboy11 in the same system  "
... "Kissboy" is chinese name, how?
QFT
but numbered names are an obvious target
as are multiple characters nearby made on the same day
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Professor McFly on 14/11/2005 00:57:17
I didn't mean Kissboy is a chinese name. But if you watch macro miners a lot you will notice their naming follows a certain trend. Hence the L2 reference. Names like Xiaodai and Yunshuo are chinese names, which happens to be the hauler working for those Kissboys.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:57:00 -
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Generally if you have 5 characters with consecutive numbering, they're macros.
Doesn't have to be chinese either.
Also, same thing if you find 10 randomely-generated named characters mining in a belt.
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Professor McFly
I didn't mean Kissboy is a chinese name. But if you watch macro miners a lot you will notice their naming follows a certain trend. Hence the L2 reference. Names like Xiaodai and Yunshuo are chinese names, which happens to be the hauler working for those Kissboys.
I petitioned them two weeks ago, WTF? 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: Professor McFly
I didn't mean Kissboy is a chinese name. But if you watch macro miners a lot you will notice their naming follows a certain trend. Hence the L2 reference. Names like Xiaodai and Yunshuo are chinese names, which happens to be the hauler working for those Kissboys.
I petitioned them two weeks ago, WTF?
as long as they are at their PC, they are legal. sux, dnt it
just steal their ore or blow them up. its the only way to stop it
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:32:00 -
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What exactly is the petition option you should choose to report them anyway? Ive trailed a fair few macro miners myself but was unsure where to report it to O.o
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:37:00 -
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Based on my experiences in Lineage 2,
A typical macro runner will be in a room with several PCs (easier with Eve, you can run mutiple accounts from 1 pc), with an external macro program running things. The program can be set to alert if a GM window pops up, or similar. The person gets up, answers the GM, and sits down again. The programs in Lineage 2 were so well developed they even had a radar minimap of your character and its surroundings. GM queries could be answered entirely through the program. There was no need for the users to even look at the game window.
GMs therefore could not positively identify macroers according to their procedures, despite it being blatantly obvious.
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Magnum III
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:53:00 -
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If their mining 23 hrs a day and you come along and steal it for how long, two hrs for a few days? Big deal.
You would have to macro steal it to compete, lol. <-Just kidding.
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Toutaku
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:56:00 -
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Yep petition and steal their ore. Make it hard for them to make their RL $'s. The GM's seem to be having a hard time keeping up with the surge of the macro population. Well they better get serious about macro's and all the bugs in game or they risk losing some customers(who actually play the game). If macroers go unchecked the market will be flooded with ores, and real miners/traders/manufacturers will be out of business. They might as well just go full time PvP. An economy controlled by macro's/bots always ruins a game. From past experience playing macro/bot filled games i know this to be true. The only rich people are those who use the macro's.
Its quite easy to tell a possible macro from a real miner. For one they got really random names/characters with numbers. Second, they operate large mining ops or 3 or more mining ships with a hauler. Third, they dont respond to you bumping them or taking their ore. Fourth, they are in NPC corps to avoid being war dec'ed by player pirates and other anti-macro groups.
A real player will always respond to you if you start bumping their ships out of the belts or steal their ore. A macro will sometimes respond when they are at their keyboard and see you nuking their ore's, but when you ask them why they didnt respond to you 30 or more minutes ago, they will say they were afk or their little brother/sister was playing or the good ol' excuse that they dont speak english  or they might just respond with the "FU" words and not say anything else to make you return their ore . And if ever you encounter a person/group who you wrongly stole ore from and turned out to be real players mining then politely return the ore.
So to all the anti-macro peeps out there, keep up the good fight!
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Toutaku
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: BoinKlasik
What exactly is the petition option you should choose to report them anyway? Ive trailed a fair few macro miners myself but was unsure where to report it to O.o
When you petition you use the exploit section to file a report.
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Graros
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:19:00 -
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Well if people didnt buy isk from ebay or wherever the macro's sell it, then we wouldnt have a problem. The Macro'ers would leave because they would have no market to sell isk. I'm definetly not saying its ok to Macro, just that people in the eve community are obviously supporting the macro market by buying isk.
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Franky B
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:36:00 -
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just take their ore, put it in you're own can right next to it and blow up your can
they have no ore, and you didnt take it permanently.
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Fairchild
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Posted - 2005.11.14 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
I hereby have decided that ISK farming has gone too far. i am, right now, in my hauler in jita
i intend to steal ore, particularly ice, from players in noob corps, with character names consisting of random strings.
i urge other players to do the same.
do NOT target normal miners, or we lose the moral highground. we will find the farmers, and we will **** them the hell off.
what you do with the ice is your choice.
please, join the crusade, but do not grief normal players. only farmers. multiple barges in noob corps are a good indication. several players created on the same day are a good indication. finally, check out the names. if its random characters, steal from them.
then petition their pasty ass
Retard....
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.11.14 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Yes, do that. And get banned because the ore you just stole was macro'ed.
Getting banned for stealing ore from a macro miner? Thats completely retarded. Any GM that does that doesn't deserve to be a GM...
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:02:00 -
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Ummm, your theory is slightly flawed chief; 1. I've mined in a badger with one laser many a time, and while its horribly, horribly boring, I didn't macro it. 2. If someone like you can find macro miners, what makes you think that CCP doesn't already have these people flagged for a ban, and you're just making their job HARDER by being a vigilante?
Believe you-me, if CCP can make a game as complex as EVE, they can find exploits just as easily.
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:14:00 -
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theres a difference between macro-mining and afk-mining.
afk mining is fine, it just means you are not at your pc but you also dont have a third party program working your character(s). You basically just sit there, or not sit there, hehe.
macro-ing is wrong. this is a game that is meant to be played. by letting a program play for you, where is the fun? if you need to make money from the game, go to programming school and become a developer, lol.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:25:00 -
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I don't get those numbered names.
If I were a macroer, I'd seed my characters and ships from a dictionary of random names. It's as if they *want* people to know they are macroing or something.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.14 06:43:00 -
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guys calm down.. once RMR comes out there will be a huge masscare of macroers using laundered alt accounts to shift ore into cans while in gang with you. Instead you'll see a flood of stripminers on the market. Esp if they set up another macro to try an retaliate hehe and then you start chaining them :)
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.11.14 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Fairchild
Originally by: HippoKing
... macro miners bad ...
Retard....
I agree. We should allow macrominers continue. They pay accounts and provide CCP some cool source of cash to giev us RMR and stuff. Also we can go "total hardcore pvp" mode by camping gates and never mine because macrominers gives us materials to fight only! Yay! Power to the PVP'ers!
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Fairchild
Originally by: HippoKing
I hereby have decided that ISK farming has gone too far. i am, right now, in my hauler in jita
i intend to steal ore, particularly ice, from players in noob corps, with character names consisting of random strings.
i urge other players to do the same.
do NOT target normal miners, or we lose the moral highground. we will find the farmers, and we will **** them the hell off.
what you do with the ice is your choice.
please, join the crusade, but do not grief normal players. only farmers. multiple barges in noob corps are a good indication. several players created on the same day are a good indication. finally, check out the names. if its random characters, steal from them.
then petition their pasty ass
Retard....
thank you for that useful contribution
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Ummm, your theory is slightly flawed chief; 1. I've mined in a badger with one laser many a time, and while its horribly, horribly boring, I didn't macro it. 2. If someone like you can find macro miners, what makes you think that CCP doesn't already have these people flagged for a ban, and you're just making their job HARDER by being a vigilante?
CCP are finding them. slowly.
every time i steal, i petition.
as far as i can tell, CCP don't like banning huge groups of accounts - at the moment i am seeing 30 or so mining in jita and kisogo at any time. its quite a sizable income for them now.
i guess in 6 months they will ban a large number at once so they can have a nice "look at us, we're helping" new story, but tbh, if they just banned them as they were found, it would be nice.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:10:00 -
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well also skillpoints is a time lag... if they ban them as they start new accounts, the'll just pop up new ones immediately. But if they wait till they have mining barge 5 and astro geo 5 (30-60 days of skill training), then ban them. They set the macroers back 3 months for each acct and thats 3 months of reduced productivity and is also less time consuming. The only problem with this is that CCP has been rather lenient on the macroers.. only giving 7 day bans...
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
The only problem with this is that CCP has been rather lenient on the macroers.. only giving 7 day bans...
you have to be ******* kidding me
can we get a GM confirm on this?
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Chony
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
guys calm down.. once RMR comes out there will be a huge masscare of macroers using laundered alt accounts to shift ore into cans while in gang with you. Instead you'll see a flood of stripminers on the market. Esp if they set up another macro to try an retaliate hehe and then you start chaining them :)
What is all this RMR stuff, please explain how you will be able to kill anyone you want in 1.0 space?
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: SengH on 14/11/2005 09:58:49
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: SengH
The only problem with this is that CCP has been rather lenient on the macroers.. only giving 7 day bans...
you have to be ******* kidding me
can we get a GM confirm on this?
Cant find the exact quote, but a GM stated that the first offense of macro mining was not a permaban. You would only get permabanned after the 2nd infraction. Reguarding the RMR killing people in 1.0 part. Look up the can flagging threads in crime and punishment.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:06:00 -
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post RMR i'm gonna have a ganged buddy fly around in an ibis and just shift their ore into a can of his own. if the isky farmers want it back, i'll blow them up. thatll cost more profits than they can make by having someone steal their ore for 2hours
of course, if they don't take the ore back, i'll get someone to come haul it away
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
ok any decent mining group if they see a BS and a noob alt trucking up together to their can will know whats about to happen. Macroers however wont... what would be frigging funny if people start using their dreads that are stuck in 1.0 systems to start stealing from all miners legit or not... "OMGF the dreadnought nicked my ore" in local would be pretty funny.
lmao. i don't steal from real players normally, but having a dread might just make me start...
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GalaxyQueen
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:33:00 -
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Leva (Kor-Azor) is bad, the entire system has been stripped and one of them had the audacity to even lock me.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:36:00 -
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hmm this is an idea.. if ECM burst isnt a agressive action ( not sure about it) wouldnt parking an apoc next to them and running 8x ecm bursts totally fubar their mining op cus they cant lock anything to mine?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.14 10:42:00 -
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i considered that sengH, but i think it will be an agress
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