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Number 17 COLD-Wing 2	Posted - 2013.06.14 10:54:00 - [1] - Quote How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now?
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 1102	Posted - 2013.06.14 10:57:00 - [2] - Quote Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
Kara Vix Sanford and Son Salvage 176	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:00:00 - [3] - Quote Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873.
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 1102	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:04:00 - [4] - Quote Kara Vix wrote: Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873. Correction this is a PUBLIC nerf High-Sec Thread, and our Registration is 248218&. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
Kara Vix Sanford and Son Salvage 176	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:05:00 - [5] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Kara Vix wrote: Stealth nerf Hi-sec thread #465,873. Correction this is a PUBLIC nerf High-Sec Thread, and our Registration is 248218&. I stand corrected...well, sit corrected anyway.
FlamesOfHeaven Phantom Fenix 37	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:05:00 - [6] - Quote cough Incursion cough
Tyrton Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns 20	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:06:00 - [7] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties. Those numbers are off .
Capt Tenguru10 Nintendo Power Against ALL Authorities 917	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:07:00 - [8] - Quote FlamesOfHeaven wrote: cough Incursion cough cough exploration cough http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Kara Vix Sanford and Son Salvage 176	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:09:00 - [9] - Quote Tyrton wrote: Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties. Those numbers are off . Way off, at least post mission loot nerf. At one time you could get that out of Dread Pirate easily but now days its just mostly a bunch of scrap metal. I feel like Charlie Brown at halloween when I salvage but instead of rocks I get scrap metal.
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 1102	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:11:00 - [10] - Quote Tyrton wrote: Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties. Those numbers are off . YOUR PART OF THE WITCH HUNT, YOU JUST WANT NAMES AND NUMBERS TO SEND SS COLONEL HANS LANDA AFTER ALL OF US! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRUybsWQ7fE One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
ACE McFACE Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve 1351	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:14:00 - [11] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Tyrton wrote: Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Please name which lvl 4 has 100m in loot and bounties. Those numbers are off . YOUR PART OF THE WITCH HUNT, YOU JUST WANT NAMES AND NUMBERS TO SEND SS COLONEL HANS LANDA AFTER ALL OF US! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRUybsWQ7fE Shh Tom, hes not worth your time. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument!
Linna Baresi 10	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:15:00 - [12] - Quote I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch). Member of <Fated> since 2003 fated.europefreeforum.com
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 1102	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:17:00 - [13] - Quote Linna Baresi wrote: I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch). Answer: Join RVB, Scoop Loot. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
Kara Vix Sanford and Son Salvage 176	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:18:00 - [14] - Quote Linna Baresi wrote: I honestly don't know how it is for the older players, but as a new player, I do think there's some hyperinflation going on. If I compare the tier 1 mission rewards to the prices I see in the market... there seems to be a discrepancy between new player earning capacity and going rates for even the more basic necessities, let alone the slightly more advanced skillbooks (mining connections: 20 million... ouch). It was always difficult for new players, even old players were new players once and things weren't handed out free back then either. Start slow and suddenly you find yourself earning plenty.
Bischopt Arbitrary Repossession 100	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:26:00 - [15] - Quote Been wondering this myself a few times. If my memory serves me right you could buy hurricanes for about 25 mil (?) maybe even less back in '09 and 2010. Warp disruptor II's were well under 1 mil a piece, just to give a couple of examples.
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 1103	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:27:00 - [16] - Quote Bischopt wrote: Been wondering this myself a few times. If my memory serves me right you could buy hurricanes for about 25 mil (?) maybe even less back in '09 and 2010. Warp disruptor II's were well under 1 mil a piece, just to give a couple of examples. It is SO HARD to run Sisters of EVE Epic Arcs in a Gnosis with small guns and large tank modules. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg
Alternate Poster Ministry of War Amarr Empire 109	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:35:00 - [17] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Bischopt wrote: Been wondering this myself a few times. If my memory serves me right you could buy hurricanes for about 25 mil (?) maybe even less back in '09 and 2010. Warp disruptor II's were well under 1 mil a piece, just to give a couple of examples. It is SO HARD to run Sisters of EVE Epic Arcs in a Gnosis with small guns and large tank modules.
Johan Toralen Clockwork X3 101	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:36:00 - [18] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: [quote=Number 17]I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Your math is way off. I say that as someone who was in the repressing business and as someone who has grinded through endless l4's. The only missions where i can see that work are the ones against other factions and those should regular mission runners avoid due to the standing losses.
iskflakes 511	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:40:00 - [19] - Quote I would randomly guess ISK is worth half as much as it was in 2010. ISK faucets need to be nerfed, very hard (not just highsec either). -
FloppieTheBanjoClown New Eden Asteroid Preservation Society 3018	Posted - 2013.06.14 11:41:00 - [20] - Quote Missions, incursions, and wormhole blue loot are the cause. And possibly FW (I have no direct experience with the amount of isk generated in that particular endeavor) The solution is to explode more ships as they are in the process of farming those things. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Onomerous Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 116	Posted - 2013.06.14 12:40:00 - [21] - Quote FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Missions, incursions, and wormhole blue loot are the cause. And possibly FW (I have no direct experience with the amount of isk generated in that particular endeavor) The solution is to explode more ships as they are in the process of farming those things. Because we all know there is no isk to be made is NS?
Rordan D'Kherr Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 440	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:15:00 - [22] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour Wow, that is at least 100m / hr more than the average nullsec ano runner was used to gain, now with Odyssey make that like 150m / hr more. _______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 818	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:21:00 - [23] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour You're tolling so hard with this single post I can only /bow at such 20th Dan Trolling Master removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Teela Browne University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:25:00 - [24] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete a level 4 mission that pays 3.5m in completion with another 1.5 in bonus, and 11k LP in under 22 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for ~100m in loot/bounties. I can get in two of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 200m 7m 3m 22k * 2k = 44m I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 254m/hour I love you Tom Gerard.
baltec1 Bat Country 6912	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:34:00 - [25] - Quote Alternate Poster wrote: edit: How does CCP break a POST? Thats easy, you just
Tarn Ellecon KEQ Industrial Complex ROFL Citizens 0	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:36:00 - [26] - Quote Capt Tenguru10 wrote: FlamesOfHeaven wrote: cough Incursion cough cough exploration cough Is there something going around?
Q 5 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2013.06.14 14:48:00 - [27] - Quote Here we go with another troll thread with muppets clearly in tow. I run missions....lets see....I must have missed the 100 million isk mission clearly my agents are plopping doo doo on me. And no, we are not going to go to low sec or null no matter what ideal you think will work, for the love of feeceees just gank your ships and take the status hit like a real pirate and stop trying to call yourself warriors.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 4550	Posted - 2013.06.14 15:25:00 - [28] - Quote "Things cost too much" thread # 489209839824761450723692346 give or take 3. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Andrea Okazon Knavery Inc. StructureDamage 34	Posted - 2013.06.14 15:37:00 - [29] - Quote I, for one, look forward to the Ron Paul for CSM! campaign.
Callic Veratar Power of the Phoenix 377	Posted - 2013.06.14 15:47:00 - [30] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Number 17 wrote: How much has the ISK devaluated since 2010? I have just came back and I'm shocked! Is it easier to make isk now? I can complete an average level 4 mission that pays 1m in completion with another 1m in bonus, and 2k LP in under 15 minutes. Add in the fact the loot can sell to reprocessors for 10m in loot/bounties. I can get in two or three of these missions in an hour without much stress at all. 10m 1m 1m 1k * 1k = 13M/mission I consider myself an average mission runner so thats: 25-40M/hour Updated with realistic numbers. DirectX 11, it's not rocket appliance!

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