Yes they are different, but many aspects of the comparison still hold true.

You don't need hotdrops in WH space because you can sneak an entire cloaky fleet in undetected. I'd say hotdrops are a side efffect of local as well, trying to storm in from a gate spikes local giving people time to react.

Yea wormholes collapse, others show up. Unless you want to sit inside all day from downtime there is generally no way to be absolutely sure you are alone in a system.

Bottom line however is that WH folk have learned how to deal with these situations and manage to leave their POS shields anyway.

You guys posting here act like you never lived in null and never for a corp that cares about their KB. In most corps you can be kicked if you loose something to a cloaky. SOP for most corps to stay POS/docked up to prevent possible loss. So you go play your alt.

I agree with the OP. Interaction should be required to remain cloaked.

love how i go afk and there are over 3 more pages lol

See?

This.

If I sit in a WH cloaked up...does it mean that the WH residents will act differently...not at all
What if a 50 man fleet is there somewhere off D-scan...no change

Now let's apply same example on null-sec.

first one: People complain about cloaky campers
second: People will not even think about undocking.

love how i go afk and there are over 3 more pages lol

not a coward been ratting with him here for past 2 hours, just saying it is broken, for someone being able to sit in the middle of space cloaked and safe,

Except in the first example, they don't even know that they have guests in their area.

Whereas in nullsec, you'd be hardpressed to get people to go out and do stuff with fifty people in local because you might as well buy ships and modules off of market and hit the trash button.

Did you put your cloak on or were you decloaked?

You act as if the only way you can pve in nullsec is with minmaxed pve turdboats.

That's not the case, semi-pvp fit ships can do the job just fine. It might be a bit less efficient, but thats the trade off for the added safety.

Or you can continue PVEing in minmaxed ships if you like, just don't be surprised when you're up a creek without a paddle when someone commences pvp

No i was docked up like you

cause pvp ships are good for all tasks in eve ...

[quote=E-2C Hawkeye]And I never complained or was bothered with cloaky campers. It's knowing how to use D-scan...

You just are like all the typical carebears in null that complain when they can't make their ISK.

You don't even know you have guest around...cause there is no local

now minimize local in null-sec....you have W space system, if you don't see them...they aren't there

But. Carebears don't like that, it messes up their sense of security.

CCP stll needs to do something about AFK cloaking threads

Nullbaby whining about cloaky alts? Can't bear in peace? Delicious tears ahahahahahahhaah
That's like when high sec miners whine about suicide ganker alts, hilarious.
Working as intended get friends to protect you when you mine/rat, deal with it., if anything CCP should buff cloaks.

Depends what your trying to get me to seeeeee

CCP stll needs to do something about cloaks, i mean seriously one click and your invisible for all day, can't do **** cause this one person wants to afk with a cyno rapier in the middle of space

it's ok though, cloak takes no cap and you can't find the person unless he magically decloaks while afk but you know that won't happen while hes in the middle of space and there is noting there


in my opinion cloaks are very op and need a nerf :) like the prices of dreads need a nerf lol

Very true.

On the other hand, for all of those people to come through the wormhole, they need to find it and smuggle there way in first; this can be observed by someone with an observing character in a cloaked ship on the wormhole, which gives time to react in such a situation. Whereas in nullsec, they can be in an entirely different region sitting on a titan/black ops battleship waiting for the cyno lighter to say that they are ready, and suddenly you have ships everywhere without the possibility of knowing that they were forming up.

Again, nullsec and wormhole space cannot really be compared to each other because they were built and designed differently from each other, and removing local from the game won't fix the problem, as it is a very shortsighted "fix".

Posting in I'm scared of afk players No. 14235

Get off your alt high sec bear

Posting from a indy character with no combat skills and stays in high sec

You do know that if you grab a group of corp members...you can rat in PvP ships.

I have done it in the past with group of stealth bombers.

Okay, you ahve to share the bounties...so carebears won't like that idea.