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Neculai Patroclus Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS 0	Posted - 2013.06.15 22:39:00 - [1] - Quote Hey there fellow EVE players, I'm new to the game and i finished the tutorial and realized literally how many skills there were in this game and it has really confused me. I am wanting to focus on missions but there is so much ship modules needed and so many skills needed for these modules. I was just wondering if any of you have any tips for keeping more organised and on top of skills and also what my priorities should be. Thanks all
Tsukino Stareine EVE University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2013.06.16 02:41:00 - [2] - Quote Nobody in your corp can offer any advice?
Galen Dnari Fhloston Paradise E.Y 8	Posted - 2013.06.16 03:19:00 - [3] - Quote 1. Join EVE University 2. Take Classes 3. Study 4. There are threads and blog posts on player's blogs about basic skillsets (and there's at least one page on EVE University's Wiki discussing the same thing. 5. Check out the basic certifications in Core Competency, Defense, and Gunnery (for starters). 6. Don't neglect the relevant social skills. As for which ones are relevant, read the descriptions and ask questions if you need to.
Marcus Walkuris Aww yeahhh 11	Posted - 2013.06.16 05:25:00 - [4] - Quote For an easier pointer in the right direction. First=Cybernetics 4. Skill Social to 3-4. Connections 3-4. Navigation 4 Evasive maneuvering 4 Warp drive operations 3 skill drones over other weapon-systems because they are a primary weapon system and a secondary also and they hold that role pretty uniquely. They give you most SP value. Get yourself into a vexor look around and enjoy eve and take your slow time learning, beauty of drones= if you decide on different types of weapons you can switch over just like that and have awesome drone skills needed with any empire/factions ships. Definitely join EvE university.
Roseline Penshar Illusory Superiority R O G U E 10	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:01:00 - [5] - Quote open EFT look for the module you need (don't get T2 module or ship) open the game see the prereq of the module learn the skill some skill are very good for fitting so you must get them ASAP (electronics, engineering, weapon upgrades, and adavanced weapon upgrades) the last one you can get later as you see fit the other skills beside module or hull (mostly support skills), you must read them 1 by 1
Ireland VonVicious Vicious Trading Company 158	Posted - 2013.06.16 06:14:00 - [6] - Quote Train every skill you already have to L1 then L2 then L3. Go buy every other skill you can inject that is within budget and do it again. Train every skill that is 1x multiplier to 5. Go buy every other skill you can inject that is within budget and do it again. You will now be able to do a ton of stuff in very little time. Then specialize on something you enjoy. I'm sure the hard core pvp or indy or who knows what hate getting lots of different skills but it's worth it on the things that are quick to train. It's a wonderful day for drugs!
Zappity Kurved Space 132	Posted - 2013.06.18 10:42:00 - [7] - Quote Seriously, missions are not the reason this game is so good. Get down to lowsec and join a faction warfare corp. You will get trained properly and the isk is excellent, even if you decide to go solo. Master T1 frigates first. The Gunnery or missile support skills (Trajectory Analysis, Motion Prediction etc) are at least as important as the damage skills since they define how well you apply that damage. Then navigation skills since much of PvP boils down to range control. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Worn Xeno One over Zero 22	Posted - 2013.06.18 17:12:00 - [8] - Quote First of all, hi, welcome to Eve, enjoy your stay :) Secondly, I recommend that you take a look at the New Citizens Q&A board - you will find a lot of information there and the people are usually very nice and happy to answer all your questions and give you tips etc. (beware the General Discussion board; they are usually... less nice... there) Finally, to answer your questions, there are a number of skills that are (almost) universally good - as mentioned before take a look at the core certificates (core fitting, core targetting,etc. ) to get an idea. Otherwise what skills are good for you depends of what you want to do and how you want to do it. Electronic Warfare for example is an important skill for PvP but almost useless for missions. A Caldari pilot specializing in shield-tanked missile-boats gains little from laser or armor repair skills. So my suggestion is to start with the core certificate skills, for more the Q&A forum may give you better answers.
IIshira School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 116	Posted - 2013.06.18 19:20:00 - [9] - Quote Ireland VonVicious wrote: Train every skill you already have to L1 then L2 then L3. Go buy every other skill you can inject that is within budget and do it again. I'm guessing you were kidding with the part about buying every skill you can train? I really did that as a noob and wasted a lot of training time. Sure I eventually used those skills but some not for over a year. I could have been training skills relevant to what I needed at the time.
brinelan The Flying Dead Insidious Empire 46	Posted - 2013.06.18 20:06:00 - [10] - Quote Someone on the forums here has a link to a new player skill training guide. Also, you will find that the skill that has the same name as its category (ex science, mechanics etc) are used as a prereq a lot or very useful so they are a good choice to get up to 3 or 4 to start. 5 later as needed.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 2214	Posted - 2013.06.19 00:20:00 - [11] - Quote Neculai Patroclus wrote: Hey there fellow EVE players, I'm new to the game and i finished the tutorial and realized literally how many skills there were in this game and it has really confused me. I am wanting to focus on missions but there is so much ship modules needed and so many skills needed for these modules. I was just wondering if any of you have any tips for keeping more organised and on top of skills and also what my priorities should be. Also i know this isn't really part of the skills section but can anyone help me deciding on different fittings and whcih modules to use as there are so many and i don't know the differences Thanks all I don't understand how this hasn't been posted before.... Download EvEMon. Input your character's API. Create a skill plan for your character. Add to it skills you need for the ship and modules you wish to use. A good place to find those skills is to use EFT, fit up a ship how you want, and it will list the skills you need. I recommend battleclinic and corp mates to find good fits & setups on ship types.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band 714	Posted - 2013.06.20 17:55:00 - [12] - Quote easiest way work out what you want to do in eve work out what ship/s that will take get a solid Tech 2 fitting for the ship and import/save it open the fitting browser, select that fit, and preview the fit noting which modules have the 'red x' for not trained show info on the module, open the required tab note down the skills you will need to train
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 342	Posted - 2013.06.23 19:00:00 - [13] - Quote Neculai Patroclus wrote: Hey there fellow EVE players, I'm new to the game and i finished the tutorial and realized literally how many skills there were in this game and it has really confused me. I am wanting to focus on missions but there is so much ship modules needed and so many skills needed for these modules. I was just wondering if any of you have any tips for keeping more organised and on top of skills and also what my priorities should be. Also i know this isn't really part of the skills section but can anyone help me deciding on different fittings and whcih modules to use as there are so many and i don't know the differences Racial Frigate Electronics Engineering Energy Management Energy Systems Operation Navigation Connections Weapon Upgrades Advances Weapon Upgrades Drones Drone Interfacing You want most of those trained to 5 real fast, but AWU, Connections and Drone Interfacing shouldn't be trained to more than 4 early on, except if you're Gallentean or if for some other reason you like drone-based ships a lot - then get Drone Interfacing to 5 soon. In the longer term you'll want DI and AWU trained to 5 regardless of race, but training Connections to higher than 4 is often not desirable.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 1957	Posted - 2013.06.24 03:13:00 - [14] - Quote Louis's Epic Skill Guide Day 0 advice for new players Forum Sticky: EVE New Citizens Q&A Resources My post of links: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2383413#post2383413
Radius Prime Tax Evading Ass. 81	Posted - 2013.06.28 11:21:00 - [15] - Quote Go to the newby forum. People there offer better links and have better new player skills. Trust me. Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
Zappity Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 153	Posted - 2013.06.28 23:59:00 - [16] - Quote Neculai Patroclus wrote: I am wanting to focus on missions Here's your first problem. I've done PvE and PvP and can confirm that missions are not what makes this game great. Join faction warfare if you want better isk than missions and the ability to dip your toe into PvP at the same time. Either way, concentrate on weapon support (Trajectory Analysis, Motion Prediction etc) and Navigation skills. They are applicable across the board and help you apply your theoretical DPS. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.")
Dargon Swift BOTCH INC. 0	Posted - 2013.07.08 18:22:00 - [17] - Quote General Steps to skilling up for a new player: 1. Train Cybernetics and beg, borrow, or steal to get some decent implants (+2 or +3 at least). Tutorials give some. 2. Decide what type of weapons (hybrid, projectile, lasers, drones or missiles) best fit your play style. The following comments are based more on my personal experience than hard numbers, and may not reflect some changes from the most recent expansions: a. Hybrid: have a wide range of ammo types for various types of damage and range modifiers. - Blasters for very short range, high damage, good tracking. Good early on, since most mission frigs/dest engage up close. - Rail guns are medium to long range depending on ammo type, moderate to weak damage, crappy tracking. I prefer other weapon types for mid to long range (like lasers, but they use a lot of cap). b. Projectile: Projectile ammo gives the best range of damage types of any turret ammo (imo). - Autocannons are very short range, high damage, good tracking, no cap use. I love AC's so I'm very biased. They usually have good fall off, and aren't as short range as blasters. - Artillery has good range and damage, but poor tracking and a very slow rate of fire; also no cap use. c. Lasers: Laser ammo (crystals) are limited to EM/TH for damage types, offer a wide variety of ranges, and you can change or reload them instantly. - Pulse lasers are good short - mid range, good damage, okay tracking, use a lot of cpu. - Beam lasers are good at med-long range, moderate damage, and bleh tracking (but better than rails). d. drones are pretty good on range and damage (with the right skills), but are subject to being targeted. They track pretty well, if you're using the right size drone for the target. e. Missiles are more difficult to nail down as they aren't named the same at different class-sizes as turrets, and use different mechanics. They still follow the same general philosophy of high damage/short range, and long range/moderate damage. - Rockets / Heavy Assault Launchers / Torpedoes: High rate of fire / high damage, short range. Torps are very short range if you don't have ship bonuses for them. - Light missiles / Heavy Launchers / Cruise: Long range, slower RoF, and moderate damage. Missiles don't use the tracking mechanic, which can be a nice benefit, but do still have a mechanic (explosion velocity) that makes them less effective on fast ships. 3. Decide what type of tank (armor, shield, speed) best fits your play style. There are several tanking styles; active, passive, buffer, etc. Initially you won't need to worry about that, you just need the basic skills; Shield skills are under Engineering and Armor skills are under Mechanics (though this may change soon). a. Armor; Most Gallente and Amarr ships, some Minmatar ships. Armor tanks trade off speed or cargo capacity, and frequently require a lot of power grid and capacitor. Armor will never repair itself passively. b. Shield. Most Caldari ships, some Minmatar ships. Shields have a native recharge rate that is most efficient around 33%. You also gain efficiency in your recharge rate by adding shield hp, because the time your ship recharges its shield to 100% doesn't change when you add more hp. So, generically, if your shield of 1000 hp recharges in 60 seconds, and you add modules that increase it to 1500 hp, it still recharges in 60 seconds. Shield tanks usually increase your signature radius, making you a bigger target. Active shield tanks can be very cap heavy. c. Speed. Minmatar are usually the fastest and most agile in their class, but any ship can be speed fit...basically sacrificing armor or shield for speed, making it difficult for anything to track or damage you effectively. d. Dual-tanking: Not advised. I've seen a lot of noobie fits that have armor and shield mods. I'm not saying it can't be done, but its almost never efficient. Focus on shield or armor according to your ship's fitting slots and bonuses. More low slots, generally means an armor tank. More mid slots, generally means a shield tank. This is not universal, but a general rule. 4. Decide which race you want to fly initially (which may not be the race you started in) based on the kind of weapons and tank you're planning on using. You can always train skills for the other things later, but you should try to focus your training to start. 5. Train that race's frigates to 3, plus the basic weapon and tank skills according to your ship's bonuses. You'll move on to destroyers (small ships) in a week or two, cruisers (medium; 2-4 weeks), battlecruisers (medium; 2-3 months), and battleships (large; 3-5 months). You'll have to train the next class-size of weapons as you upgrade to bigger ships. 6. Train all skills with the word "upgrade" (Hull Upgrades, Weapon Upgrades, Electronics Upgrades, Shield Upgrades, etc.) in its name to level 3-4. This will cover a large number of basic modules to T2. These are usually pretty cheap and fast to train. You'll also want some basic propulsion skills for afterburners (preferred for missions) and microwarpdrives (though these are not functional in most missions). 7. Look at the Core Fitting certificates and work on those, as they will apply to every ship you fly. 8. Use EFT for specific ship fittings and Eve Mon to organize and plan your skills. I like cap stability and a solid tank for PVE. You should be able to solo level 4 missions with relative ease within 6 months. Obviously Eve is a game that offers a lot of options, so I've tried to put this in general terms. There are a lot of ways to fit ships and engage in combat, so I tried not to be too specific here. My two ISK, -Dargon
Mirel Dystoph Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 75	Posted - 2013.07.08 21:24:00 - [18] - Quote Dargon Swift wrote: 1. Train Cybernetics and beg, borrow, or steal to get some decent implants (+2 or +3 at least). Tutorials give some. This is your first step of becoming a risk averse highsec scrub. Don't do it, it's not worth it. "Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise."-á
Roman Adaiah Apex Nebula Ventures 0	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:24:00 - [19] - Quote Louis's epic guide is definite place to start. And join a Corp
Dargon Swift BOTCH INC. 0	Posted - 2013.07.11 14:42:00 - [20] - Quote Mirel Dystoph wrote: This is your first step of becoming a risk averse highsec scrub. Don't do it, it's not worth it. Don't you guys have some more supers to go lose? Sorry, had to. I'm actually rooting for you guys. He's stated he's initially going to focus on mission running, so my response was geared for that. -Dargon
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Tribal Band 742	Posted - 2013.07.15 04:39:00 - [21] - Quote Zappity & Mirel both forget for every person that finds the pve in eve soul crushingly boring there is at least 1 person that enjoys it. Do all 5 tutorials (career agents, accessible through the help [f12] menu) you will need to purchase and train the Industrial skill to level 1 between them, those 5 agents cover mining hauling trading manufacturing scanning, salvaging & hacking (or did, not sure how the recent changes have affected the tutorials in this regard) basic missions basic ewar those you enjoy, continue skilling for
Ireland VonVicious Vicious Trading Company 173	Posted - 2013.07.19 18:32:00 - [22] - Quote IIshira wrote: Ireland VonVicious wrote: Train every skill you already have to L1 then L2 then L3. Go buy every other skill you can inject that is within budget and do it again. I'm guessing you were kidding with the part about buying every skill you can train? I really did that as a noob and wasted a lot of training time. Sure I eventually used those skills but some not for over a year. I could have been training skills relevant to what I needed at the time. Nope. Completely serious. At least get them to L2. You can afford to spend 3 days getting skills that won't be as easy to train after your first remap. I'm sure just one of your relevant skills to 5 would have taken far long then all those other skills combined. Plus it's worth exploring how eve works before you make a decision on what aspect to focus on.
Melkorus Aliastra Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.07.20 17:19:00 - [23] - Quote Neculai Patroclus wrote: Hey there fellow EVE players, I'm new to the game and i finished the tutorial and realized literally how many skills there were in this game and it has really confused me. I am wanting to focus on missions but there is so much ship modules needed and so many skills needed for these modules. I was just wondering if any of you have any tips for keeping more organised and on top of skills and also what my priorities should be. Also i know this isn't really part of the skills section but can anyone help me deciding on different fittings and whcih modules to use as there are so many and i don't know the differences Thanks all Take it from another noob. Follow certificates. Best way is to download EVEMon as it does a lot work for you, but you can do it manually too. (again, highly suggest EVEMon as it's really nice create a plan and follow it and see what's done and what's what. For example, you obviously have ship in mind, view ship's info, then go to recommended tab. It will show you which certificates you should train for that ship. Each of the certificates will have multiple skills under them. In EVEMon, you can just select the recommended certificates for your ship, and add them to your plan, it will auto-populate minimum level of skills needed to achieve. Saves you a lot of headache. But do take care with those certificates, look at their skills once they are in the plan. For example if you want to armor tank your ship, then there is no need for you to get shield-focused skills, just remove them from the plan.

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