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Arwen Atreides
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Posted - 2005.11.17 00:26:00 -
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Event with Mordus Legion:
Upon receiving information yesterday about a planned Mordus attack on NORAD and Imperium in retaliation for aggression against them when they pulled out of Outer Ring, we organized a defense fleet in D5IW-F (Imperium was absent because they no longer reside in Outer Ring). At the start of the Mordus incursion, we learned the Mordus fleet included about 40 ships, and us with about 60. Further intel indicated that a BoB fleet was assembling in 4c-B7X, with at least 60 ships.
Thinking that BoB and Mordus were working together against us, and fearing being sandwiched between two hostile fleets, our commanders ordered a premptive strike on the Mordus fleet before BoB could join the fight. We proceeded towards Orvolle from D5IW-F, hoping to catch them somewhere in between. The Mordus fleet entered a dead end constallation in Syndicate before we passed enroute to Orvolle, and therefore we
did not engage them fearing a trap in the dead end systems, as BoB was still behind us.
We encountered a small gang of hostiles at the Orvolle gate in PF, and engaged about 8 Battleships belonging to Rage and Terror Corp. The BoB fleet entered FD, and we jumped into Orvolle. It would have been suicide to egange 60 or so BoB plus the Mordus fleet. In Orvolle we were attacked by Mordus, but could not fire back without being shot at by gate sentry guns (it may have been because of mistakes by some gang members due to cluttered overview). Whether it was our mistake or not, the sentries firing at us made us believe that we could not shoot Mordus without being ganked by the guns. Our commanders ordered our fleet to fell back away from the gates to protect our forces from sentry guns. The Mordus ships then docked.
Mordus Legion Demands:
During the action Shivaja of CHON contacted Mordus Legion's Lt. Amlerik Raun. In this exchange of words, Mordus demanded NORAD and Imperium appologize to them for our aggression against them in 4C-B7X. We ecognize that the aggression with your forces in 4C was a miss-understanding and we are sorry your pilots and ships were lost because of it. It is regretable that a dialogue could not have been opened before the events of today, which could have saved many a great deal of frustration. This was between NORAD, Imperium and Mordus Legion, and it is too bad we could not settle this without the meddling of 3rd parties. Now that we have appologized for the actions in 4C, we would like some compensation for today's event. Not just for NORAD, but for the other corporations and alliances that were dragged into this dispute and inconvenienced by this fiasco. We await your response...
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.11.17 01:52:00 -
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cool logo
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.11.17 02:20:00 -
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Just a little tip for when NORAD are involved in similar events in the future, it's ok in these circumstances to talk to the meddling 3rd parties and find out what their intentions are. We all use these events to have fun and can be quite accomodating in order to make sure we all have a good rumble.
You missed the opportunity for a really good fun 3 or 4 way fight because we weren't working with Mordus at all, which you'd have known if you'd talked to us.
Three way fleet battles for the win 
Eve Blacklight Style
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.11.17 07:48:00 -
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The only thing mordus has any right to demand is a medical ship to assist with there casualties maybe they should get on the comms to The sisters of EVE.
(OOC) The whole thing was a cluster **** TBH and in the lag they proberly did the best thing not jumping back in after jumping out, know MC had GREAT difficulty targeting ANYTHING, myself personaly took 1+ minute to target ships and of course weaps never activated 
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king borg
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Posted - 2005.11.17 09:46:00 -
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You missed the opportunity for a really good fun 3 or 4 way fight because we weren't working with Mordus at all, which you'd have known if you'd talked to us.
Three way fleet battles for the win
so why couldent you contact us about it then?
yes this was unfortinate. lack of communications between alliances. 
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FILFIUS
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Posted - 2005.11.17 10:23:00 -
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WRONG - Lag ftw.
Big gangs dont work at the moment. The lag is the only winner, and thats all I have to say.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.17 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: king borg
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You missed the opportunity for a really good fun 3 or 4 way fight because we weren't working with Mordus at all, which you'd have known if you'd talked to us.
Three way fleet battles for the win
so why couldent you contact us about it then?
yes this was unfortinate. lack of communications between alliances.
Cause we couldn't care less.
Even if you had been working with Mordus we'd still have engaged you happily. Fleet sizes disregarded.
As it is, Mordus Legion command were warned they would not be likely to find many norad and most certainly no IMP in the region, and that therefore we would not suffer their planned incursions into our space.
They had also called in help from some people we see as enemies. From that point on, I believe BoB adopted a 'take out the thrash' policy for the time being, shoot everything and anything you can that isn't blue.
Taking the Mordus side in this skirmish would have been both illogical (we dont need their pityfull help), and counterproductive (the chance of actually accomplishing anything with a fleet that big, mixed and led by some inexperienced outdated mercenaries is minimal at best).
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Power to the players !
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king borg
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Posted - 2005.11.17 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: king borg on 17/11/2005 11:19:32
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.11.17 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Just a little tip for when NORAD are involved in similar events in the future, it's ok in these circumstances to talk to the meddling 3rd parties and find out what their intentions are. We all use these events to have fun and can be quite accomodating in order to make sure we all have a good rumble.
You missed the opportunity for a really good fun 3 or 4 way fight because we weren't working with Mordus at all, which you'd have known if you'd talked to us.
Three way fleet battles for the win
Hind site if 20/20, you think you would have done so the first time?
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Takagamu
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Posted - 2005.11.17 16:07:00 -
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This is an announcement thread, if you want to discuss the recent Mordus event or the relationship between alliances, please do that in the appropriate threads.
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NORAD Recruitment Thread |
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Bigben
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Posted - 2005.11.17 17:30:00 -
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well i think now we know where each other stands next time somthing like this happens...
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.11.17 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Takagamu
This is an announcement thread, if you want to discuss the recent Mordus event or the relationship between alliances, please do that in the appropriate threads.
Errr.... this is an announcement about Mordus and the alliances involved, so not surprisingly we're discussing them 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2005.11.17 20:05:00 -
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Mordus asked the Aegis Militia to come as well. We ignored them since NORAD and Imperium were noted as targets and attacking them would only help BoB.
Not that we are allied to any of the parties involved (hence why no warnings were sent either) but with BoB's fiasco against Aridia (how is that coming by the way?) we certainly aren't going to go out of our way to assist them even if Mordus Legion Command asks us for back-up.
And Mordus should really consider better the political ramifications of assisting BoB or involving itself at all in alliances and their politics lest they gain more enemies than they can handle. Mordus need to stay with what they know and probably stay out of NORAD, Imperium and BoB affairs. But who can understand the inscrutable mind of Mordus?
Aegis Miltia Infomercial + video
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.11.22 11:10:00 -
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NORAD in a 3 way fleet battle....??
I think not.
The NORAD I knew, and left in disgust, would not even defend itself against a few ex member that wanted to cause trouble.
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Arwen Atreides
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Posted - 2005.11.23 01:12:00 -
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Please keep this informational thread clean of flames and non-pertinant posts. Unless you have something constructive or interesting to add about the Mordus Legion event please do us all a favor keep it to yourself. Furthermore if you wish to make comments about NORAD I suggest you get some updated information for alot has changed since The Merchant Marines era of NORAD.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.11.23 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Arwen Atreides
Please keep this informational thread clean of flames and non-pertinant posts. Unless you have something constructive or interesting to add about the Mordus Legion event please do us all a favor keep it to yourself. Furthermore if you wish to make comments about NORAD I suggest you get some updated information for alot has changed since The Merchant Marines era of NORAD.
Well as you posted those points in a public forum channel I feel that I am within my rights to respond to them.
NORAD has been niaive, narrowminded and introspective since way before BNC left and the Nemesis vs TheMM issue occured.
Your introspection and down right pigheadedness in the face of the practicalities of occupying 0.0 space has led the alliance from one disaster to another. Your democratic model has paralised the alliance since before we quit and was a source of intense frustration for 90% of successful pod pilots ever to graduate from the gutter that is Outer Ring.
I can list without stretching myself a great many Eve pilots who at one time or another have experienced the utter horror of a NORAD council meeting and have been scarred for life because of the experience.
You still suffer from the problem of having 50+ in alliance chat and about 5-10 combat pilots fighting for the regions you pretend to hold claim on, in fact the Mordus event is your single greatest moment in 6 months, not because you actually achieved something, let alone engaged successfully a hostile fleet but because you somehow (miracles do happen) managed to get 50 pilots in one place at one time to then successfully run like the wind away from the nearest fight.
The level of niaivety and utter steadfastness in the face of common sense is recordbreaking where your alliance is concerned. Long may you continue to be absolute nobodies in a fast paced ever eveolving and ever hostile universe.
You've had people of some considerable vision attempt to influence your stagnated masses before today only to trip over your own bureaucracy and be stiffled by your lack of vision.
To be honest you are a dead alliance walking and until you accept the fact that radical change to your operating model is needed you will be no more than that.
The recent Mordus incident did nothing but affirm your incredible lack of ability to achieve even the simplest of objectives. Simply put you are hopelessly ineffective at succeeding in this cruel universe and show less than no signs of ever managing to change the situation.
If it were not for the fact that the decaying husk that is the remnants of Mordus Legion represent no more than the opportunity for slim loot pickings to our elite fighting forces then we would ally with them to expediate the eradication of your 'alliance'.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2005.11.23 12:24:00 -
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Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT 
thats what most of your bob combat flight simulator pilots dont have 
Shivaja
NORAD Fleet Commander
NORAD Kill Board
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Thuffyr Ewwith
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Posted - 2005.11.23 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Well as you posted those points in a public forum channel I feel that I am within my rights to respond to them.
Sure. If you have something to say. But you have not.
You are only an angry character, nothing more.
We are so happy to be like we are , but I am so sorry for you . I hope that one time you will enjoy EVE like us. We are happy to be a part of this universe, and seeing characters like you only give me the opportunity to tell to all others characters in the universe: don't wait to be so angry like this character, come and enjoy EVE with us!
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ElfeGER
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Posted - 2005.11.23 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
what's a SPRIRIT ??
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Thuffyr Ewwith
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Posted - 2005.11.23 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
what's a SPRIRIT ??
BHOUUU BHOUUUU BHOUUUUUU
I'm the SPIRIT of an old Skotish cAAAAaastle...
BHHHOUUUU BHHOUUUUU BHHHOUUUUU
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Tech Tiger
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Posted - 2005.11.23 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
what's a SPRIRIT ??
A SPRIRIT is Shivaja killing a Crow. In a Bestower.
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Ban Tier
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Posted - 2005.11.23 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
what's a SPRIRIT ??
Well check this.
Or in short: Quote:
NORAD seeks good relations with all of the other alliances/factions within the eve universe, which respect the principles of democracy and freedom of individuals.
That is the spirit of NORAD.
Ban
CEO Times-of-Ancar
Infos: http://www.times-of-ancar.de
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ponieus
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Posted - 2005.11.23 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
thats what most of your bob combat flight simulator pilots dont have
Shivaja
NORAD Fleet Commander
you obviously dont know BoB very well now do you?
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Berta Kriel
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Posted - 2005.11.23 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
thats what most of your bob combat flight simulator pilots dont have
Shivaja
NORAD Fleet Commander
The spirit of logging, sure.
And you're right, most of the bob pilots don't have that spirit.
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2005.11.23 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
thats what most of your bob combat flight simulator pilots dont have
Shivaja
NORAD Fleet Commander
Thats the most stupidest thing a person can say, we are all spirit thats why we are kicking your ass.
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Arwen Atreides
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Posted - 2005.11.23 17:27:00 -
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Well as you posted those points in a public forum channel I feel that I am within my rights to respond to them.
Whoa buddy...My post reminding people not to flame etc... was not directed at you. In fact I have thought your posts to be well constructed, and informative.
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2005.11.23 20:16:00 -
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Less talk here NORAD...less of being forum warriors...show what you can do in the battlefield...cos i sure as hell would like to see what you got. 
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Shivaja
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Posted - 2005.11.24 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: Shivaja
Well you can insult us u can laugh at us but u will NEVER break our SPRIRIT
what's a SPRIRIT ??
ah sorry u all mighty El***ER u so perfect and flawles and u newer write down typo
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Uggster
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Posted - 2005.11.24 14:50:00 -
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/me Hands Blacklight the Medal of the Bitter Truth
I could not have put it better myself Sir.
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Earthan
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Posted - 2005.11.24 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: CLEISTHENES2
Less talk here NORAD...less of being forum warriors...show what you can do in the battlefield...cos i sure as hell would like to see what you got.
Then check killboards or come to 4c brother.
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