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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.06.16 02:44:00 -
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I am considering the potential of adding a core set of new systems to the empires high security region.
Like the New Eden system, but in a new way.
The security levels of these internal systems would be above 1.0, to reflect a modification to the rules applying to them uniquely.
STORY BACKGROUND:
These represent a combined effort from the empires to reach back to Earth. They believe the home worlds have somehow collapsed, or else they would have technologically surpassed the Jovians exponentially, and would have reestablished contact otherwise.
Whether they would be helping the current empires, or conquering them to reestablish control over this entire area, is not definable.
The concern is that whatever prevented this reunion might have been only a temporary setback, and they could be rebuilding in order to invade.
Enough records survived to determine this as the most likely direction their interests would take, if the opportunity presented to them.
This is not Schrodinger's cat... this box has a power hungry empire behind it, and at some point will come looking for us as a means to advance their goals, at our expense in all probability.
WHAT does this all mean?
A set of wormholes were discovered that had a sub resonant signature like that of the legendary New Eden wormhole. Believing that these could be fragments linking together between our space and the Earth systems, all the empires forged a pact of mutual alliance to explore and investigate what they eventually lead to.
They established a mutual non aggression agreement, to have the pilots work together and not hamper progress by non productive conflicts with each other.
All ships permitted entry are automatically modified to deny targeting weapons on friendly forces. And all forces from our space are considered friendly.
Teamwork, and this unprecedented level of trust supporting it, are the keys to how this gameplay will be different in this space.
They will need it. It seems the sleepers can be found out there too... and worse....
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Mole Guy
Xoth Inc
Unclaimed.
171
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Posted - 2013.06.16 03:09:00 -
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and worse?
im interested.
are you talking about new worm hole systems or new systems? or just declaring xxx systems to be 1.1 systems and no one can fire except at bad guys?
what about can flipping?
i am down with 1.1 systems where we all have to work towards a common goal.
what would be kewl would be the idea that was posted the other day about distress calls.
tell me more or i will break out my forum-fu on u..=) |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp
Ocularis Inferno
106
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Posted - 2013.06.16 04:09:00 -
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You do realize it's been at least thirty thousand years since the EVE Gate closed, right? I assume you also realize that the technology capsuleers currently have is far, far behind that of the colonists from Earth - Sleepers, Talocan, and Jove are all but confirmed as only a few generations removed from the baseline Terran colonists.
This is also more or less an attempt to stealthily buff highsec in an unreasonable and PvE-centric manner, when CCP has stated many times that EVE is about PvP first and foremost. Just like every other idea that centers around NPCs being the enemy rather than other players, this will probably never be implemented.
And if it is, I'll eat my shoe.
GÇ£Point out to me a person who has been harmed by an AFK cloaker and I will point out a person who has no business playing this game.GÇ¥ - CCP Soundwave |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1886
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:28:00 -
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Mole Guy wrote:and worse?
im interested.
are you talking about new worm hole systems or new systems? or just declaring xxx systems to be 1.1 systems and no one can fire except at bad guys?
what about can flipping?
i am down with 1.1 systems where we all have to work towards a common goal.
what would be kewl would be the idea that was posted the other day about distress calls.
tell me more or i will break out my forum-fu on u..=)
New worm hole systems, but with different access mechanics.
These are all stable. They are not in parallel to the empire systems, there is only one entry, and a series chain of these extends into the distance.
As part of the modifications to ships, they all transmit a friendly IFF transponder code. ( Effectively like a local chat, it IS a sub set of your Alliance chat, but don't expect sleepers and others to be seen in it)
This is a clever transmission, not possible to use by hostile forces, since the encoded signal has the location of the ship sending it.
The signal is automatically transmitted by the same sympathetic network used for instant FTL transmssions, so has no source direction that can be traced back.
Can flipping is handled by trust. No flagging, everyone is effectively in the same corp for rules about cans and wrecks.
Don't put something in a can unless you want others to have access to it.
No wreck belongs to anyone, all can loot it.
This is a massive team effort, not a passive aggressive competition.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1886
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Posted - 2013.06.16 14:38:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote:You do realize it's been at least thirty thousand years since the EVE Gate closed, right? I assume you also realize that the technology capsuleers currently have is far, far behind that of the colonists from Earth - Sleepers, Talocan, and Jove are all but confirmed as only a few generations removed from the baseline Terran colonists.
This is also more or less an attempt to stealthily buff highsec in an unreasonable and PvE-centric manner, when CCP has stated many times that EVE is about PvP first and foremost. Just like every other idea that centers around NPCs being the enemy rather than other players, this will probably never be implemented.
And if it is, I'll eat my shoe.
Ok, quick explanation since you misunderstood.
It is an accepted concept that technology does not stagnate, it evolves.
The exception is what happened in EVE space, where a collapse of supporting social and economic systems threw a few groups back to the dark ages, and killed the rest.
Thirty thousand years with no contact means one of two things. Either technology can never bridge the distance, or some form of setback also affected the Earth systems.
Noone knows how or why the EVE gate closed, or what effects happened at the other end.
We survived, and we were far less spread apart and self sufficient than they were.
Conjecture as to whether this implies a disaster, or war, on the Terran side is yet unresolved. Evidence of records recovered suggest either as equally probable.
As to this being a stealthy buff to high sec, read it again.
This has nothing to do with high sec itself, the single connection being a wormhole entrance most likely placed in a new or repurposed system.
Like existing WH space, it would be distinct and separate.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Mole Guy
Xoth Inc
Unclaimed.
172
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:23:00 -
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i can see a new profession arising, looting others stuff.
unless everything in these new wh are instances where no one else can interfere, then there will be peeps running from wreck to wreck, can to can taking.
have you seen 1/2 of eve? they are too lazy to make an honest living. they have to take other peoples stuff for the feeling of power and whatever else they get out of it.
you would have a core group of friends and then those waitin outside the wh for us to leave it, or flying with us pretending to help, but robbing the fleet blind.
"its just a game.." ive heard. not when i am paying $45 usd a month for my toon and alts.
war is war, but things like high sec ganking where u have to wait for them to strike when its favorable is for the birds...and now with tags dropping in low sec, pirates are everywhere doing the same thing just more.
i cant see it working with eve the way it is.
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ExAstra
Echoes of Silence
158
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Posted - 2013.06.16 16:52:00 -
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Lorewise, how exactly do the empires find out about earth?
Save the drones! |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1887
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:15:00 -
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Mole Guy wrote:i can see a new profession arising, looting others stuff.
unless everything in these new wh are instances where no one else can interfere, then there will be peeps running from wreck to wreck, can to can taking.
have you seen 1/2 of eve? they are too lazy to make an honest living. they have to take other peoples stuff for the feeling of power and whatever else they get out of it.
you would have a core group of friends and then those waitin outside the wh for us to leave it, or flying with us pretending to help, but robbing the fleet blind.
"its just a game.." ive heard. not when i am paying $45 usd a month for my toon and alts.
war is war, but things like high sec ganking where u have to wait for them to strike when its favorable is for the birds...and now with tags dropping in low sec, pirates are everywhere doing the same thing just more.
i cant see it working with eve the way it is.
Passive can grabbing will be difficult with the pressure being applied by hostile activities.
Let me explain by suggesting how this could work, and why can flippers won't be as big of an issue.
First system in: Outpost and general staging area.
Kept clean of hostile activity by Concord's defense fleet.
Next wormhole in, (until claimed and paved), moderate activity centered around hostile groups scanning down and attacking allied forces. Composition approximates 2 BS with support vessels, or cruiser group of equal overall power.
This system is considered just behind our side of the front lines.
No enemy capitals present.
Friendly capitals can be present, but advise caution.
The hole beyond that will not be accessible to anything above BS in mass, until stabilizer upgrades are established in the above system, (slang phrase for this being "System is paved"). Once that happens, capitals can begin entering cautiously.
Supercaps and titans may never be able to go beyond the first staging system, dev judgement determining.
This system is considered the front lines.
No enemy capitals present, no friendly capitals present.
Fleet level action.
The hole beyond this front line, is the enemies' side of the front lines. The enemy capital ships can provide support here.
Sneaky or fast guerilla style assaults possible, large fleet activity will be hampered by the presence of enemy capitals providing support.
Covert Cyno use possible, need to destroy enemy hub structures so their capitals lose access.
Access to hole beyond this is blocked by the hub structures which also enable the presence of the enemy caps.
This string of systems represents the progress of this fight, with advancements transferring the qualities of the systems outward.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1887
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Posted - 2013.06.16 18:31:00 -
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ExAstra wrote:Lorewise, how exactly do the empires find out about earth?
The Jovians have the best records on this topic, but do not like to share the information.
With the discovery of the stable wormhole series, recognizing the resonant sub frequency the WH energy possessed, and learning about the hostile population inside....
They grudgingly decided it was necessary to share the details of our origins, in order to prevent an invasion by these other descendants of our forefathers.
They directed the empires with research information, allowing the few remaining puzzle pieces needing confirmation to be brought to light. Long dead colonies which never survived the cataclysmic failure of the EVE wormhole, were located, and their data harvested to reveal disturbing details.
Fleets moving in both directions had been common, bringing in support and taking out profitable resources and discoveries.
At least one fleet in each direction had been in transit, with their survival after the collapse now considered possible.
It is theorized that they were dropped at some point, (or points), between the two original WH entry points.
Having the actual needed supplies with them to create and establish new outposts and colonies, it is expected the fleet coming towards EVE space had more than what was needed to survive and likely rebuild.
The outgoing fleet, while less equipped for independent survival than the other fleet, still would have had very good probability of recovering and surviving.
One or both of them together would account for the presence in the newly discovered wormhole.
Whether their hostile attitude is due to historical causes, or simply how their survival changed them, is academic.
They are dangerous.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
31
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:38:00 -
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I'm with Nikk.
The ancestors of New Eden would not have given up on us so easily. If you watch the opening movie you can see that the ancestors did in fact have the use of warp drive on their ships just like our ships do to move around solar systems.
I am certain that such technology would have been created where warp drive units on the same scale as the Jump Gates would also have eventually been developed by the ancestors of New Eden.
I seriously doubt that the Old Empire of Earth would have forgotten about those in New Eden because it was the largest single disaster in the history of humanity.
History books would have been written regarding attempts to find New Eden based off of the solar systems surrounding the collapsed Eve Gate where I am certain were a buzz with activity as they would have been stepping off points for colonists crossing through the Eve Gate.
There would be those who would embrace finding New Eden again along with those like that which was mentioned above would want to invade New Eden for their own gain.
Eventually the ancestors of Earth will find New Eden because if it had been 30k years since the gate collapsed then 30k years have taken place along their time line as well which means they would have progressed technologically along the same lines that New Eden did.
....so somewhere out there right now Old Earth Corporations are still surveying the backdrop of the Universe to find us. They will find us eventually.
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Commander Ash McCloud
The New Eden People's Front
4
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:57:00 -
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LF9M Raidfinder? 
Nikk Narrel wrote:They established a mutual non aggression agreement, to have the pilots work together and not hamper progress by non productive conflicts with each other.
All ships permitted entry are automatically modified to deny targeting weapons on friendly forces. And all forces from our space are considered friendly.
Don't like that its instanced. I'm assuming this is high reward stuff that would be farmable without anyone able to interfere from the outside.
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Bakuhz
The Nightingales of Hades Holdings
The Nightingales of Hades
39
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Posted - 2013.06.16 20:58:00 -
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Mole Guy wrote:and worse?
im interested.
are you talking about new worm hole systems or new systems? or just declaring xxx systems to be 1.1 systems and no one can fire except at bad guys?
what about can flipping?
i am down with 1.1 systems where we all have to work towards a common goal.
what would be kewl would be the idea that was posted the other day about distress calls.
tell me more or i will break out my forum-fu on u..=)
making systems unable to do criminal acts uless someone is flashy well weird combination but als obreaking eve of its true spirit.
this is not WOW.
so no to this whole sugesstion.
new systems with new game mechanics sure especially with ccp future idea of making destructable stargates etc.
holds my interest.
http://tnoh.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=576554
We are stil looking for Manticore Pilot's can you fly one and are interested to do more with covert operations
Contact me for more info |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1892
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:40:00 -
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Commander Ash McCloud wrote:LF9M Raidfinder? Nikk Narrel wrote:They established a mutual non aggression agreement, to have the pilots work together and not hamper progress by non productive conflicts with each other.
All ships permitted entry are automatically modified to deny targeting weapons on friendly forces. And all forces from our space are considered friendly. Don't like that its instanced. I'm assuming this is high reward stuff that would be farmable without anyone able to interfere from the outside.
Not instanced at all.
Go into a system that doesn't scale below a certain level, and solo content can be risky to attempt.
You are welcome to try, but they won't pull punches.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1892
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Posted - 2013.06.16 21:44:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:Mole Guy wrote:and worse?
im interested.
are you talking about new worm hole systems or new systems? or just declaring xxx systems to be 1.1 systems and no one can fire except at bad guys?
what about can flipping?
i am down with 1.1 systems where we all have to work towards a common goal.
what would be kewl would be the idea that was posted the other day about distress calls.
tell me more or i will break out my forum-fu on u..=) making systems unable to do criminal acts uless someone is flashy well weird combination but als obreaking eve of its true spirit. this is not WOW. so no to this whole sugesstion. new systems with new game mechanics sure especially with ccp future idea of making destructable stargates etc. holds my interest.
Noone would be required to enter this section. Strictly voluntary.
EVE has defined this concept quite neatly already.
Don't expect to be able to attack in high sec without being concordokkened,
don't expect safety in null without the numbers to back it up,
and don't expect requests for permission to fight from others in a WH.
Different areas, different play styles.
The sandbox, it has many areas.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
384
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Posted - 2013.06.17 00:27:00 -
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Bakuhz wrote:
new systems with new game mechanics sure especially with ccp future idea of making destructable stargates etc.
holds my interest.
If I could go back in time and stop CCP Seagull from saying anything about building stargates, I WOULD. That shouldn't have been mentioned or even breathed about until we were within a year from it, not approximately five years as we are now.
They never said "destructible stargates". They simply said "building stargates". Please don't get more stupid rumors started, we have ten thousand of them already. |
Commander Ash McCloud
The New Eden People's Front
8
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Posted - 2013.06.17 06:04:00 -
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If there is no way to attack eachother in these new systems its pretty much the same as it would be instanced. Perhaps if you make the rewards pretty much useless something like this could be implemented but I highly doubt it. There is good reasons the rewards from PvE content is limited in high sec. This also don't fit in a game where everything you do can be affected by others. |
FoxFire Ayderan
72
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Posted - 2013.06.17 09:24:00 -
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Finding New Eden would have to be nearly impossible if they hadn't been able to do it at the time.
Chances are it's in a galaxy several billion light years away. Being able to determine the star cluster we are in among 100's of billions of galaxies, each with 100's of billions of stars, at a few billion light years away would be a monumental task. For all we know we're outside the visible reaches of Earth.
Of coure that's not written in stone, so I suppose they could make it concievable for renewed contact with Earth and its colony systems in the Milky Way.
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To mare
Advanced Technology
200
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Posted - 2013.06.17 11:49:00 -
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tldr: CCP i wanna PVE with no risk at all with some of the most profitable rats.
not sure if serious tbh |
Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
Urine Alliance
181
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Posted - 2013.06.17 12:45:00 -
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terrible |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1893
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:22:00 -
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Commander Ash McCloud wrote:If there is no way to attack eachother in these new systems its pretty much the same as it would be instanced. Perhaps if you make the rewards pretty much useless something like this could be implemented but I highly doubt it. There is good reasons the rewards from PvE content is limited in high sec. This also don't fit in a game where everything you do can be affected by others.
This comparison to instancing is sounding desperate.
You can freely enter this team play aspect.
Think of it as choosing to enlist in an empire's navy on a limited basis... you follow their rules for the duration.
Unlike real enlisted service, you can end it by leaving the area. They won't hunt you down for being AWOL.
You can choose to help other pilots in a fight, or you can ignore them.
By default you are all in the same fleet, so warping to them is always an option.
But the fights don't resett. If you want to start another fight in a different part of the system, that's your choice, the presence of enemies will scan you down eventually, if you are not making an effort to avoid them.
Your only limit is that you are forced into the same effective fleet, and your weapons won't harm other fleet members.
If you want to loot other's cans and try to be passive aggressive, they can ignore you when you need help.
And in a group content area, those operating solo eventually will unless they are hiding from everything.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1893
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:23:00 -
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FoxFire Ayderan wrote:
Finding New Eden would have to be nearly impossible if they hadn't been able to do it at the time.
Chances are it's in a galaxy several billion light years away. Being able to determine the star cluster we are in among 100's of billions of galaxies, each with 100's of billions of stars, at a few billion light years away would be a monumental task. For all we know we're outside the visible reaches of Earth.
Of coure that's not written in stone, so I suppose they could make it concievable for renewed contact with Earth and its colony systems in the Milky Way.
It's a fictional story, just like everything in EVE.
That means it is completely arbitrary too.
Just be glad the devs have not thrown "Space Orcs" into the game. /shudder
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1893
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:25:00 -
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To mare wrote:tldr: CCP i wanna PVE with no risk at all with some of the most profitable rats.
not sure if serious tbh
No risk?
Surely your imagination has failed you, to assume such a wild thing.
The risk will be overwhelming to solo play, and manageable to group effort, IF they have the skills to work together successfully.
The risk is there, it just comes from a direction you are not used to.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Commander Ash McCloud
The New Eden People's Front
24
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:19:00 -
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Npcs are scripted, which means you can learn their behaviour. Once that is done you can just pimp your ships to sillyness since there is no risk at getting ganked. After that its just free farm. |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1895
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:34:00 -
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Commander Ash McCloud wrote:Npcs are scripted, which means you can learn their behaviour. Once that is done you can just pimp your ships to sillyness since there is no risk at getting ganked. After that its just free farm.
NPCs are scripted to a degree, and the AI is often simple.
To balance this, add more to their forces, so that it requires teamwork and planning around known weaknesses as REQUIREMENTS to succeed and profit.
Otherwise, stay in high sec and farm L4s to death.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
ExAstra
Echoes of Silence
160
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:09:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:ExAstra wrote:Lorewise, how exactly do the empires find out about earth? The Jovians have the best records on this topic, but do not like to share the information. With the discovery of the stable wormhole series, recognizing the resonant sub frequency the WH energy possessed, and learning about the hostile population inside.... They grudgingly decided it was necessary to share the details of our origins, in order to prevent an invasion by these other descendants of our forefathers.
So, where did the Jovians get the records of ancestry? As far as I'm aware races such as the Jovian or Talocan weren't "unaffected" by the EVEgate collapse, they just fared better. After 20k+ years and such I think anything that may have been even remotely related to earth would be lost or have remained an undecipherable mystery (a 20k year old long lost legend) to the people of New Eden.
I am very, very iffy on the subject of truly bringing Earth and our ancestry into EVE. I find it nicer to have the dark, melancholy aspect that we don't know where we came from or why as opposed to "Oh, okay, we just kinda got screwed? Oh well." Plus, our technology is probably only now approaching what the Earth Colonists had been capable of.
I like the idea that New Eden is lost and hidden, and that the EVE gate was far and beyond your typical wormhole. It adds gravity to what happened, and it reinforces just why we were so keen on colonize the galaxy. A world of vast richness to explore and command, a new place we had never seen or even dreamt of. Something that was, ultimately, too good to be true.
For EVE's sake, I think it's best we not dwell on the past, but look to the future. Earth is a non-entity to New Eden, they should remain a complete mystery to New Eden, and for us players, that mystery that never gets completely solved.
Save the drones! |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1895
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:34:00 -
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There are no claims of complete records being present. There are gaps and missing segments, but for the most part record keeping had been automated and fairly reliable.
This is not guessing what a cave painting means, but going back into archives of well recorded history.
Now, noone is actually suggesting a complete connection back to Earth itself.
Rather, it is the perception of a threat from Earth coming to us, or possibly just those descendents of the fleets that had been in transit at the time of the disaster. There is not even clarification on this detail, as the hostiles are not inclined to explain themselves.
It is a perpetual war front, instead. It can be evolved or left as is, as the devs and players choose.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Axloth Okiah
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
86
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:32:00 -
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WoW is that way >>>>>
W-Space Realtor |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1895
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:42:00 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:WoW is that way >>>>>
Errr, I hope you enjoy Azeroth?
Frankly this could never work in that game, on this level. It is easy and such to say war, but that really dumbs down the genre.
Now, think a moment on what could happen when pure teamwork by ALL players involved was pitted against a well designed and balanced artificial opponent.
It would be like an all star team from everywhere in EVE...
Noone has to play nice, but the option to play in this area requires strictly defined teamwork.
Noone has to play without Local, unless you live in a wormhole.
Noone has to play without Concord's support, unless you leave high sec.
We already define areas of the game with specific limiting elements. This is no different.
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Axloth Okiah
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2013.06.17 21:30:00 -
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What you basically want is incursions, but even safer. The ultimate farmville, with no risks whatsoever. Infinitely exploitable.
Cooperative PVE is already in the game.
If you want proper teamwork, do PVP.
If you want safe environment to farm with your friends against NPCs, without any inteference from other players, go play WoW.
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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc
Ex Cinere Scriptor
1899
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Posted - 2013.06.17 21:35:00 -
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Axloth Okiah wrote:What you basically want is incursions, but even safer. The ultimate farmville, with no risks whatsoever. Infinitely exploitable.
Cooperative PVE is already in the game.
If you want proper teamwork, do PVP.
If you want safe environment to farm with your friends against NPCs, without any inteference from other players, go play WoW.
Safer how?
Why would you assume survival to be such a given consideration, in this concept?
I am suggesting unprecedented levels of risk, where you can do everything correctly, and still be mowed over like a lawn under a grass cutter.
Think instead about fleet fights...
Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata)
Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
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