Can you distinguish between a cloaked player gathering intel from a player who's afk?

It is not weak, or lazy, to ask that a game not automatically transmit your presence in a system to any passerby. In fact, it is lazy to fit a single module to a ship and then park yourself in a system forcing other people to ratchet up their effort, manpower, and equipment.

Jenn I place you and tipia in the same category. You both have a insatiable need for attention and you resort to trolling to get a thread locked you donGÇÖt like or agree with and you both lack the ability to see any other perspective other than your own.

Removing local is a terrible idea supported by terrible people.

Luck? How about truth?

I wish I was smart enough to persuade Tippia that it would be in her rational interest to run for CSM

Oh well, that still leaves blackmail, bribery and threats!

The truth? The real truth of the matter is that a cloaked player represents an unknown level of threat. He might be zero threat (afk), he might be a small threat (a solo hunter) or he might be a large threat (ready to hotdrop you in an instant). Certain types of player are driven absolutely insane by the inability to resolve this unknown down to something nice and distinct. They can't deal with the large, vague possibilities.

"AFK cloakers", while they are part of this grand system, are themselves practically irrelevant. They are only relevant in the context that they increase the level of unknown.

The cloaker gets a lot more bang for his AFK buck then the miner ever did.

Omg yea bc we really need another Mintchip event..

As stated in previous post the cloaker gets paid in intel while at the keyboard but gets paid while afk with the ability to effect other players all just from being logged in and not even ingame.

I would say go ahead and run if you feel your EGO would be able to handel it should you not get elected.

Intel and 50 cents will buy you a cup of coffee lol.

If you canGÇÖt be bothered to be in game then you should not be in game cloaked.

Please explain how clicking a button to remain cloaked would effect a cloaked player present at KB playing the game?

I wouldnt need to know your progam. I have read the forums forums since I started and they have provided me with all I need to know about your program.

It would seem the Hawk pegged you guys from the get go.

I asked a valid question to which you can only reply word salad?

Also that last part made me laugh... One of dumbest most hypocritical things from you in a while.

Second, I would like a way to scan him down and kill him, rather than just waiting around for him to show himself.

What I don't understand is why Jenn and Tippia seem to be opposed to this.

A hostile pilot in one of my home systems is ALWAYS a problem.

I've always thought that cloaking should need fuel, like Heavy Water or Liquid Ozone.

People have given numerous and valid concerns when it comes to afk cloaking to which all you can say is change is a weakness. As is there is no viable counter to the cloaker afk or not

If "cloakys can't do anything" (Tippia's statement), then how can they "alter nullbear ISK-making behavior" (Jenn aSide's statement)?

Au contraire, by definition if you can trigger the behavior then you are indeed having an effect.

Good luck with that. They will do do what they do for every thread they dislike.

I still donGÇÖt understand why it would be an issue for a cloaker to press a button to remain cloaked every 15-30 min. Most of these people argued in other threads against afk mining yet argue for afk cloaking, Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

I think Tippia is wrong about this.

AFK is AFK doesnt matter if its mining or cloaking only real difference here is is that the AFK cloakers most likely never afk ice mined.

As far as I can tell, CCP has not gone after AFK miners, or AFK mission runners, or any other AFK activity.

The AFK cloaking problem.

It solves the AFK cloaking problem with a game mechanic that makes sense from all perspectives.

They can. They just need a lot of fuel.

Straw man.

It isn't a nerf.

They can.

No, it's a straw man, because the issue isn't going AFK. It's going AFK cloaked with the element of intentionality to in some way disrupt the behaviour of others.

I understand nerf to mean some kind of reduction in capability.

My solution would just be to make them scannable with special equipment.

So, they add that into the calculation as to the benefits or otherwise of whatever it is they aren't doing.

Sure, you can do that in station

You don't "measure intentionality". Same rules for everyone.

That's true on an absolute scale, but your cloaked Loki is still vastly more powerful than my Mackinaw.

I think you're being a bit silly here, pretending not to see any potential problem with an AFK cloaking.

Exactly how would pressing a button every 15-30 minuets to remain cloaked put the cloaked at any greater disadvantage...

It doesn't give free intel other than to show the person has been at their kb in the last 30 min

If you can't be at the on playing the game then you shouldn't be in the game.

Stop trying to prove your the idiot that you are.

I guess for the same reason a person should be able to be cloaked up while sleeping in bed forcing others to adapt to their presence in system.

Akf cloaking is BS and should be changed just like afk ice mining was changed