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Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:07:00 - [1] Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:09:00 - [2] In other news, giving the most powerful jamming ships in the game the fastest lock speed would be a bad idea. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Professor McFly	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:09:00 - [3] Keep em coming. ____________________ 1) Buy Eve Time Card 2) Sell it for ISK 3) You just legally bought ISK for real money!
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:14:00 - [4] In the words of Darrel Hammond (playing Chris Matthews) on the Saturday Night Live Hardball skits: Wow! Great job Det, I didn't see that comin'! Hit me again, don't let me down!
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. The little ships rule everything that is why I hate TomB
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:53:00 - [7] My hat is off to the inty that manages to jam something with the sensor power of a scorpion, and keeps it jammed, because one lucky jam isn't going to do anything. ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:56:00 - [8] you have such faith in the little numbers in the module description screen, dont you
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:58:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:04:00 - [10] Edited by: GC13 on 19/11/2005 04:05:34 Okay, just to make sure nobody makes the mistake of taking this clown seriously: The best racial jammer, in a ship flown by a pilot with Signal Dispersion at level 5, will have a 3/8 chance of each module jamming the Scopion. SURE an inty with three of the modules running would only have a 25% chance of failing on a given cycle. But the Scorpion is going to be safe from the interceptor until then, and when the inty DOES fail a cycle... Ha ha ha. It's not locking. Ever again. And the Scorpion's wingmen are going to be sending the inty's pilot home in a pod, or off to the cloning vats. EDIT: Hey guys, I just had an awesome idea! We can make a collection of Det's post, compile them into a PDF that can be bought in a book format from lulu.com, and entitle it "The Alt Strikes Back". What do you think? We could make a fortune!
Korthan	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:05:00 - [11] Ok solution to your problem: don't use a Scorpion BS to lock ceptors, frigs, afs, etc... use a Blackbird with 2 - 3 sensor boosters and all locking problems are solved ( at least for me, because with 2 sensor boosters i near insta-lock all small ships ) and you still have room for ECM jamming... Also -- WTB: Inty that can jam scorpion 30 - 100% of the time.
Montero	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:24:00 - [12] ohnoes. OHNOES! there are ships that can beat my cladari BS. waaambulance etc etc.
Ukiah	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. Actually, I have just these types of inties available for sale. You'll have to come pick them up. In Arizona. At my ocean front property.
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Ukiah Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. Actually, I have just these types of inties available for sale. You'll have to come pick them up. In Arizona. At my ocean front property. I'll take two. --------------------------------------------- Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!! [TheKiller8 - Uh what? - Flash Video]
Blind Man	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Professor McFly Keep em coming.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:07:00 - [16] So, basically, your problem isn't with Caldari, it's with ceptors. Color me surprised. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Beringe	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:12:00 - [17] These forums need a block list. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming.
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:20:00 - [18] Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/11/2005 08:21:36 Detarus- you realize that caldari have the LONGEST targeting range as well as the strongest sensor strength. So we can lock people FURTHER out and we ourselves are harder to jam. So it is ballanced. Get a clue man. -Edit- you cant jam 3 t1 frigs?... thats um, sad... really sad.
Trelennen	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Beringe These forums need a block list. signed Quote: dont fly what you cant afford to lose, always have it insured, make sure you can replace it before you take it into 0.0 or any potentially kaboomish situations.
Menelak Faf	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Beringe These forums need a block list. I'll pay extra! SoonÖ is relative.
Noriath	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:39:00 - [21] The slow locking time of the scorpion is good as it is, if the scorpion had the fastest locking time of any battleship it would be unstoppable, and would make even more of a mockery of EW as it is already...
Lygos	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:44:00 - [22] Roflcopters. I keep a cap injector on my inty just to power the damn jammers. On a more serious note, has anyone had moderate success with jammers on destroyer? The 500-600 scan resolution seems like a good deal in place of the MWD I don't need. Targetting Sig Variance -- "Everything I love is combustible."
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.11.19 09:17:00 - [23] OMG I almost feel bad about posting in the other topic about uber intys :) Yes i agree scorpion should be fastest locking ship in game... IF it is fitted for such purpose. Then look at its 8 med slots... and fill them with sensor boosters :) Now, 4x sb stiletto would probably beat that, but not by much. Now go back to flying ibises, and come back when you master it, and i will also accept comment that it has only 1 low slot, but as it is 'bonus' caldari ship should have bonus 8 hi 8med 8low slots and come with officer mods just for you. Be back in a year or so :/ Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Pre-patch: Scorpion + Gankageddon. Post-patch: Scorpion + Raven, maybe. Missiles sux, doesn't they?
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:24:00 - [24] How about we give the guy an I-WIN button and then dump him in Jove space. ------------------------- Proud owner of the Aphoxema G Calendar
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Finix Jaeger How about we give the guy an I-WIN button and then dump him in Jove space. agree with the jove space. not the i-win button there are no gates back from jove, right? the poor underpowered scorpion
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:29:00 - [26] Him again.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:29:00 - [27] Edited by: Grimpak on 19/11/2005 12:29:43 Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME. what kind of matter of**gotery is this? PS: BOOOHOOO MY WHAAAAMBULANCE! ------------------- Celestial Horizon*: we go zerg on you*
Simon Illian	Posted - 2005.11.19 14:34:00 - [28] lol what a joke .... did you knwow why caldarai BS have the most point for anti jamming ?? do you know why why 2 scopr (tier1 ship) we jump into a Apoc, Arma,RAven fleet and destroy the arma & escape with no loose ??? do you know why the SCorption have 8 middle slot ??? to be THE jamming BS. If you find the scorp hjave a low signature you can : => Use support to boost you'r sensor strengh => You have 8 midslotn fit Sensor Booster II Scorption are perfect for jamming, and of course not a lot of fire power ... can i says a good equilibrate ship ??? yes i can :p [Eve Tool for the mass]
Karrihn	Posted - 2005.11.19 15:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME. <bling!> Sleep..... The Destruction of your ship is usually preceeded by the thought,"I think I will try somthing a little different this time...."
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.19 15:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships long have i feared the ECM retribution or apoc for that matter. or geddon. or thron.

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