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Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:07:00 - [1] Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:09:00 - [2] In other news, giving the most powerful jamming ships in the game the fastest lock speed would be a bad idea. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Professor McFly	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:09:00 - [3] Keep em coming. ____________________ 1) Buy Eve Time Card 2) Sell it for ISK 3) You just legally bought ISK for real money!
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:14:00 - [4] In the words of Darrel Hammond (playing Chris Matthews) on the Saturday Night Live Hardball skits: Wow! Great job Det, I didn't see that comin'! Hit me again, don't let me down!
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. The little ships rule everything that is why I hate TomB
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:53:00 - [7] My hat is off to the inty that manages to jam something with the sensor power of a scorpion, and keeps it jammed, because one lucky jam isn't going to do anything. ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:56:00 - [8] you have such faith in the little numbers in the module description screen, dont you
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:58:00 - [9] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:04:00 - [10] Edited by: GC13 on 19/11/2005 04:05:34 Okay, just to make sure nobody makes the mistake of taking this clown seriously: The best racial jammer, in a ship flown by a pilot with Signal Dispersion at level 5, will have a 3/8 chance of each module jamming the Scopion. SURE an inty with three of the modules running would only have a 25% chance of failing on a given cycle. But the Scorpion is going to be safe from the interceptor until then, and when the inty DOES fail a cycle... Ha ha ha. It's not locking. Ever again. And the Scorpion's wingmen are going to be sending the inty's pilot home in a pod, or off to the cloning vats. EDIT: Hey guys, I just had an awesome idea! We can make a collection of Det's post, compile them into a PDF that can be bought in a book format from lulu.com, and entitle it "The Alt Strikes Back". What do you think? We could make a fortune!
Korthan	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:05:00 - [11] Ok solution to your problem: don't use a Scorpion BS to lock ceptors, frigs, afs, etc... use a Blackbird with 2 - 3 sensor boosters and all locking problems are solved ( at least for me, because with 2 sensor boosters i near insta-lock all small ships ) and you still have room for ECM jamming... Also -- WTB: Inty that can jam scorpion 30 - 100% of the time.
Montero	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:24:00 - [12] ohnoes. OHNOES! there are ships that can beat my cladari BS. waaambulance etc etc.
Ukiah	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. Actually, I have just these types of inties available for sale. You'll have to come pick them up. In Arizona. At my ocean front property.
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Ukiah Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/11/2005 03:58:38 Originally by: Detaurus Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war Stopped reading after this. I'm guessing he *****es about the scropion not being able to lock in 1-2 seconds like an inty locking a BS, am I right? Yes you are right, for an inty can jam a scropion in 2 seconds and keep them jammed, the cycle will continue, if his friend has an energy transfer array, forever. This means that the scorpion is redundant. WTB inty that can jam a scorpion 100% of the time.... let alone 30%. Actually, I have just these types of inties available for sale. You'll have to come pick them up. In Arizona. At my ocean front property. I'll take two. --------------------------------------------- Oveur > CUZ IM EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!! [TheKiller8 - Uh what? - Flash Video]
Blind Man	Posted - 2005.11.19 04:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Professor McFly Keep em coming.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:07:00 - [16] So, basically, your problem isn't with Caldari, it's with ceptors. Color me surprised. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Beringe	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:12:00 - [17] These forums need a block list. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming.
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:20:00 - [18] Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 19/11/2005 08:21:36 Detarus- you realize that caldari have the LONGEST targeting range as well as the strongest sensor strength. So we can lock people FURTHER out and we ourselves are harder to jam. So it is ballanced. Get a clue man. -Edit- you cant jam 3 t1 frigs?... thats um, sad... really sad.
Trelennen	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Beringe These forums need a block list. signed Quote: dont fly what you cant afford to lose, always have it insured, make sure you can replace it before you take it into 0.0 or any potentially kaboomish situations.
Menelak Faf	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Beringe These forums need a block list. I'll pay extra! SoonÖ is relative.
Noriath	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:39:00 - [21] The slow locking time of the scorpion is good as it is, if the scorpion had the fastest locking time of any battleship it would be unstoppable, and would make even more of a mockery of EW as it is already...
Lygos	Posted - 2005.11.19 08:44:00 - [22] Roflcopters. I keep a cap injector on my inty just to power the damn jammers. On a more serious note, has anyone had moderate success with jammers on destroyer? The 500-600 scan resolution seems like a good deal in place of the MWD I don't need. Targetting Sig Variance -- "Everything I love is combustible."
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.11.19 09:17:00 - [23] OMG I almost feel bad about posting in the other topic about uber intys :) Yes i agree scorpion should be fastest locking ship in game... IF it is fitted for such purpose. Then look at its 8 med slots... and fill them with sensor boosters :) Now, 4x sb stiletto would probably beat that, but not by much. Now go back to flying ibises, and come back when you master it, and i will also accept comment that it has only 1 low slot, but as it is 'bonus' caldari ship should have bonus 8 hi 8med 8low slots and come with officer mods just for you. Be back in a year or so :/ Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Pre-patch: Scorpion + Gankageddon. Post-patch: Scorpion + Raven, maybe. Missiles sux, doesn't they?
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:24:00 - [24] How about we give the guy an I-WIN button and then dump him in Jove space. ------------------------- Proud owner of the Aphoxema G Calendar
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Finix Jaeger How about we give the guy an I-WIN button and then dump him in Jove space. agree with the jove space. not the i-win button there are no gates back from jove, right? the poor underpowered scorpion
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:29:00 - [26] Him again.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.19 12:29:00 - [27] Edited by: Grimpak on 19/11/2005 12:29:43 Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME. what kind of matter of**gotery is this? PS: BOOOHOOO MY WHAAAAMBULANCE! ------------------- Celestial Horizon*: we go zerg on you*
Simon Illian	Posted - 2005.11.19 14:34:00 - [28] lol what a joke .... did you knwow why caldarai BS have the most point for anti jamming ?? do you know why why 2 scopr (tier1 ship) we jump into a Apoc, Arma,RAven fleet and destroy the arma & escape with no loose ??? do you know why the SCorption have 8 middle slot ??? to be THE jamming BS. If you find the scorp hjave a low signature you can : => Use support to boost you'r sensor strengh => You have 8 midslotn fit Sensor Booster II Scorption are perfect for jamming, and of course not a lot of fire power ... can i says a good equilibrate ship ??? yes i can :p [Eve Tool for the mass]
Karrihn	Posted - 2005.11.19 15:39:00 - [29] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships, which have a higher scan resolution and thus locking time. It is now possible for small ships such as an interceptor to lock down a scorpion. To fight this on one of my characters their scorpion utilizes 2 active ECCM, due to this issue. this places the entire defense of a battleships to its knees through the utilization of but 1 t1 frigate. This is not only ridiculous, but copletely counter intuitive and retarded. SIZED tackling(chance based), SIZED jaming(already chance based), must immediately be implemented. Until then 3 t1 frigates> scorpion. THE UNDERPOWERED SCORPION SHOULD BE THE FASTEST LOCKING SHIP IN THE GAME. <bling!> Sleep..... The Destruction of your ship is usually preceeded by the thought,"I think I will try somthing a little different this time...."
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.19 15:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Detaurus Caldari are out classed in the jamming war by any and all other ships long have i feared the ECM retribution or apoc for that matter. or geddon. or thron.
Cilppiz	Posted - 2005.11.19 19:33:00 - [31] For the same excuse boost matar locking range aswell, they are supposed to sniper arent they? Isnt live cruel when you cant have all you want?
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2005.11.19 19:45:00 - [32] I want a frigate with the defense of Sacrilege, speed of a Claw and the damage output of a Gankageddon. It should to all types of damage and have built in warpcore stabs, 6 should be enough. pwetty pwease ------------------------- Proud owner of the Aphoxema G Calendar
Rawthorm	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:47:00 - [33] Man its people like u who give us Caldari Pilots a bad name. While we could do with better sig rez I hardly think a BS should outlock anyhing in a lower class (before any mods of course)
lofty29	Posted - 2005.11.19 20:52:00 - [34] For heck sakes detarus. If there's a ship you dont like you come here, troll and call everyone who disagrees wrong. I dont like many ships but I just dont fly them, and fly the ones I do like. If there's an underpowered ship, maybe you're fitting it wrong. The scorpion has low locking speed and low sensor strength because once it locks something, its impervious to damage if fitted right in a 1v1 situation. This means it can do a number of things, including warp, shoot back or call in freinds. The scorpion, along with the blackbird, are two of the most powerful ships in the game due to this reason, and do not need to be changed. "The purpose of war is not to die for your corporation, but to make the other f***er die for theirs!"
GC13	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:07:00 - [35] What makes you think he really doesn't like it? I think he just thinks of something that'll get people upset, then posts it to get a reaction.
Serena Loftum	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:09:00 - [36] Because he always posts something he thinks is wrong...
lofty29	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:11:00 - [37] damnit, wrong char :D "The purpose of war is not to die for your corporation, but to make the other f***er die for theirs!"
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:57:00 - [38] By all means give the Caldari ships a better scan resolution. While they're at it, perhaps they could nerf their sensor strength to bring it in line with the other races. And nerf ECM as well so it no longer trumps sensor dampeners. And let's make missiles affected by tracking disruptors too. See, things don't seem so bad for Caldari ships once you consider their strengths as well as their weaknesses, do they? Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Cavy Dan	Posted - 2005.11.19 23:05:00 - [39] Ok, with sensor boosters it's ok locktime, but the range isn't any good, because, you can only warp in at 100 km (atm) and after the patch, it's down to 75 km or something, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.11.19 23:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Finix Jaeger I want a frigate with the defense of Sacrilege, speed of a Claw and the damage output of a Gankageddon. It should to all types of damage and have built in warpcore stabs, 6 should be enough. pwetty pwease you forgot the built in covops cloak, no fuel jumpdrive, sig radius of a pod, tracking of a destroyer and cargo capacity of a charon.
Ithildin	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:03:00 - [41] Detaurus: just as has been said, a ship that abolishes other ships ability to lock (and thus do anything at all) must have a bad lock time in order to keep it balanced. Also, the Scorpion is nowhere near underpowered. There's a reason why it's called primary. You kill that which is most dangerous first, and the most easy to kill second. Scorpions are killed first. Originally by: Beringe These forums need a block list. I'll second that one. There are some posts which you don't want nor need to read, nor even know about. So. When are these forums going live in game?
Lorth	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:14:00 - [42] While I'm not not certain if your actually seriously this inane, or if your simply trolling, I guess in the end it doesn't matter. By posting such non sense, and missinformation on the fourms, you've effectivally made your self the laughing stock of eve. As f right now, you're in a noob corp, and have made uch a fool of our self that you'r prob going to have to stay there for a while. No self respecting corp will take you in based solo on the tripe you post on the forums dayly. Further should you ever decide to make your own corp again, you know full well your going to recieve several justified war decs. Honestly, stop posting on the forums, you do nothing but show your self to be utterly clueless as to how the game works. Further you've managed to emabarise your self to the point that no person reading this will ever want to be associated with you.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:32:00 - [43] No. /Mav With great power, comes great responsibility.
LWMaverick	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:33:00 - [44] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Finix Jaeger I want a frigate with the defense of Sacrilege, speed of a Claw and the damage output of a Gankageddon. It should to all types of damage and have built in warpcore stabs, 6 should be enough. pwetty pwease you forgot the built in covops cloak, no fuel jumpdrive, sig radius of a pod, tracking of a destroyer and cargo capacity of a charon. With great power, comes great responsibility.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.11.20 00:51:00 - [45] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Finix Jaeger I want a frigate with the defense of Sacrilege, speed of a Claw and the damage output of a Gankageddon. It should to all types of damage and have built in warpcore stabs, 6 should be enough. pwetty pwease you forgot the built in covops cloak, no fuel jumpdrive, sig radius of a pod, tracking of a destroyer and cargo capacity of a charon. And the Uber Smartbomb, which does 5000 damage to all ships within 100km every 1 second for 1 cap. - Proud member of the [23]. Don't get the reference in my sig? Click it.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.20 01:30:00 - [46] With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC
Menelak Faf	Posted - 2005.11.20 01:43:00 - [47] Originally by: Detaurus With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC Lets all discover a thing called NOS. SoonÖ is relative.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.11.20 01:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Detaurus With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC Because it's a support ship, and a powerful offense (which you want) + a very powerful defense (existing EW) at the same time is something that isn't balanced. Once again you fail to use the right tool for the right job. Speaking of tool... Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- Spreadsheet - Damage @ range.
El Yatta	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Detaurus With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC Just about every scorpion ever fits 2 heavynos. The clever ones fit one nos, one neut. With either, you can kill any HAC's cap, unless it's mounting a full rack of nos to oppose you, and even then the neut will break it. With no cap, 4 cruise launchers, or even 4 med guns, which fit even easier, will not be tankable. Surely you can see this. ---:::---
Reatu Krentor	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:25:00 - [50] pffrt, you ***** me up Det... ------------------------------------------ The ammatar are not the enemy, they are the smoke and mirrors of the amarr.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:28:00 - [51] Originally by: El Yatta Originally by: Detaurus With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC Just about every scorpion ever fits 2 heavynos. The clever ones fit one nos, one neut. With either, you can kill any HAC's cap, unless it's mounting a full rack of nos to oppose you, and even then the neut will break it. With no cap, 4 cruise launchers, or even 4 med guns, which fit even easier, will not be tankable. Surely you can see this. That is assuming the HAC is not kiting you, so the scorpion now must fit mwd also, for ships like the Deimos do. actually without any assistance the HAC can kite any battleship, with an average speed of 180-190 m/s .
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:30:00 - [52] Not that that reeally matters as everything in this game is about tackling.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:35:00 - [53] Edited by: Naughty Boy on 20/11/2005 02:38:57 Originally by: Detaurus That is assuming the HAC is not kiting you, so the scorpion now must fit mwd also, for ships like the Deimos do. actually without any assistance the HAC can kite any battleship, with an average speed of 180-190 m/s. A scorp will slaughter a deimos with mwd active so fast, it will take full damage from torpedoes or cruises and die even faster than before the missile changes. Not that the deimos use the mwd to kite anything, that'd be damn funny... and not last long. Deimos use the mwd to get within blaster range and stay there, not to kite... You should try again... or maybe not. Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- Spreadsheet - Damage @ range.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:43:00 - [54] As I said, the deiomos can kite without assistance.
Menelak Faf	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:49:00 - [55] Diemos is effective up to 10KM, why the hell would he kite you? SoonÖ is relative.
Naughty Boy	Posted - 2005.11.20 02:52:00 - [56] Originally by: Detaurus As I said, the deiomos can kite without assistance. Now, for a giggle, what kind of assistance should need a deimos to kite ? Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. --- Spreadsheet - Damage @ range.
Menelak Faf	Posted - 2005.11.20 03:20:00 - [57] Edited by: Menelak Faf on 20/11/2005 03:20:35 Originally by: Naughty Boy Originally by: Detaurus As I said, the deiomos can kite without assistance. Now, for a giggle, what kind of assistance should need a deimos to kite ? Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy. Obviously, all caldari ships should have 800 weapon hardpoints, infinate ammo, 99.99% resists to all, 2000 m/s base speed...... edit: i'm going to get yelled at for trolling again, aren't i? =( SoonÖ is relative.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.20 03:24:00 - [58] Since Caldari are a superior race it is natural that they have such superiority reflected in their ship capabilities
Munin Crow	Posted - 2005.11.20 03:48:00 - [59] I can't tell if you are joking or not. Either way, you are fairly hilariouse.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.11.20 23:49:00 - [60] Originally by: Detaurus With all the mid slots in the world a scorpion cannot break the tank off a decent HAC You'd be suprised at what happens to a good HAC tank when a Large Neut and/or NOS is hitting it while it's jammed, scrambled, and webbed. And let's not forget the extra help from some drones the Scorp can launch. Then again, I'm not sure if any HAC pilot is going to willingly stay inside a Scorp's targetting range unless it's flying with others. ------------------------------------ Your Civilian Gatling Railgun perfectly strikes Choke Slam [CAIN], wrecking for 6.0 damage.
Riley Craven	Posted - 2005.11.21 01:59:00 - [61] Edited by: Riley Craven on 21/11/2005 02:00:22 Of all things to complain about...like sub standard dps, being able to fire missles at range (is semi-worthless because of flt time and defenders) their huge sig radius, or the fact that shield tanks are sub-par to armor tanks, you choose to complain about this??? (oh yeah and not to mention the fact that ships like the apoc can use more drones when caldari should use more than amarr but less than galante because of exp with them) Seriously, as much as I call hail and brimstone on ccp for caldari being the suckiest race ever, you are by far way more stupid than I am. that isnt saying alot either....
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.21 02:44:00 - [62] Riley, buzz off I will complain about what I wish to
Foulis	Posted - 2005.11.21 03:54:00 - [63] And we will make fun of your stupidity as much as we wish too. Now go away, or we shall taunt you a second time. http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/2605/evsig6nq.png Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. mail us if you have questions. - Laqum
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.21 03:58:00 - [64] Foulis is ugly
Foulis	Posted - 2005.11.21 04:11:00 - [65] Edited by: Foulis on 21/11/2005 04:10:59 Oooooh, are we a clever one. My avatar is ugly, but irl, you're still dumb as toast. But enough of pointless jabbering, could a mod please lock this thread?
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.21 05:09:00 - [66] Originally by: Foulis Edited by: Foulis on 21/11/2005 04:10:59 My avatar is ugly, but irl, you're still dumb as toast. This goes in the future sig bin. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Detaurus	Posted - 2005.11.21 05:34:00 - [67] Originally by: Foulis Edited by: Foulis on 21/11/2005 04:10:59 Oooooh, are we a clever one. My avatar is ugly, but irl, you're still dumb as toast. But enough of pointless jabbering, could a mod please lock this thread? nope, you, in fact, are the tard
F'nog	Posted - 2005.11.21 06:27:00 - [68] Wow, the comebacks just keep getting more immature. What's next: "I'm rubber, you're glue..."? Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.

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