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Posted - 2005.11.22 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: DevBlogHaxor Edited by: DevBlogHaxor on 22/11/2005 07:07:23 Do YOU have any idea how IP addresses work?
1. Changing your IP address is easier said than done, while it's easier for some people and harder for others, for the majority itÆs a bit tricky.
Of course, your average macroer will know how to do this. Because they've done it before. Repeatedly.
Quote: But do you ban a single IP? No, you ban a range of them.
Thus banning a potentially large range of customers. All of china, for example. Of course, that still won't stop the macroers, because they'll just use US proxies.
Quote: By banning a range of them you pretty much eliminate the chances of them getting back on with the same ISP.
Of course, this ignores the fact that large-scale macroers allready use multiple ISPs, have their fingers in multiple MMOs, and generally won't be stopped without banning everyone.
Quote: Also if they have a STATIC IP, they are screwed, I myself have a static IP.
And that's one ISP your macroer won't pick, for that very reason.
Quote: 2. The chance of this happening in slim, while it can happen, the benefits would far outweigh the downsides.
Depends on the subnet size allocated from. You'll definately end up banning some innocents if you ban on the scope of 1.2.x.y, and won't stop plenty of macroers if you don't (I've seen plenty of instances where both the lower numbers change with regards to ISPs).
My math:
256 x 256 variations on the first two numbers (totally ignoring reserved numbers) = 65,536 possible combinations EVE has about 60,000 subscribers.
The chances of there being no more than 1 subscriber for every subnet? Pretty unlikely - not frogetting the earlier notion of macroers being able to switch ISPs, thus meaning you'll end up banning multiple subnets per macroer.
Quote: 3. If a banned IP points to a shared connection, thatÆs just too bad for them.
Let me ask you this, if you have a website or a server, and you keep getting people trying to break into the website from a certain range of IPÆs, do you just let them hack away at your website/server because your worried some innocent person from viewing your website?
Depends on the website. Is it your personal **** collection? If so, banning a subnet is probably OK. Is it the website that hosts your publicly traded company's SEC report? Probably less okay to ban away at random. We're talking stuff which people with lots of money want to see. Lots of money that might be invested in your company.
Quote: Most importantly, when banning an IP or range of IP's, you don't have to do it forever. It can be 24 hours, 48 hours, etc.
Just enough to screw them up.
Of course, it won't screw up the macroer with multiple ISPs, still annoy legitimate users, and offer quite little that permabanning their account dosn't allready do.
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