and what is with the usage of nos against NPCs? Will you still get cap from them?

Capacitor Flux Coils would like to have a word with you in the hallway.

lets not forget to add a t1 MWD also, that 25% reduction in cap will do wonders for abusing the new NOS mechanic.

Not really. If you're facing a same-class opponent it'll make your nos work against them for a couple of cycles and then be just as useless as it was before. The enemy will have 6% less cap than they would have had otherwise. Why would anyone waste a high slot and deliberately nerf their own total cap by using a sub-par mwd for such an irrelevant bonus?

This change is **** , don't push it. I really like many changes , many odyssey changes were great (except exploration). But here we don't have fix for nos. We just have nos buff for minmatar ships alone as they always start fight with less cap amount compared to amarrian, gallente ships.

We don't need fix NOW. We can wait , but i'm pretty sure that Devs can come up with solution that will be benefit slasher with NOS as it will benefit Executioner with NOS. As it is now , ships with bigger cap pool will hate this change. And Losematar will welcome it as any other undeserved buff they receive now or in future.

Thank you gentlemen! and stuff

But I thought a neut killed far more of the target's cap than a nos. That gives newts more power even with my change.

Most Minmatar ships don't burn cap and have little use for a NOS over a Nuet.
Amarr ships burn huge amounts of cap and need all the help they can get to maintain it, and usually have a utility slot free for NOS.

Minmatar pilots will tend to use Nuets, Amarr ships (especially frigates and cruisers) will go back to their old ways of using cap hungry lasers supported by NOS and cap injection.

Yes, but it would compare the actual amounts of cap instead of percentages of the ship's full pool.

Cap hungry lasers ? Yes
NOS - not every ship got utility high (tormentor, omen, maller , abaddon etc) , so invalid argument
Cap boosters ? How i'm supposed to fit cap booster on punisher ? On slicer ? On Coercer ? On Dragoon ?
Hell it's even hard to fit it on 3 mid ships as it is always hard choice to give up web (tho we are only race who has to give up anything here).

So yeah cap hungry lasers yes, but no NOS - it will be terribad mod for amarr ships (except dunno maybe ewar ships). No cap boosters - we got no mid slots for this fancy stuff.

And to prove i'm not just crying here what i would like to see:

Keep nos as it is but reduce req fittings. Atm it consumes huge amount of pwg and cpu , while it doesnt give much in return.
Reduce cycle time by 50% also. It will be useful module, commonly used .

The heavy nosferatu is still underpreforming with these changes, since battleship capacitor pools are larger overall.

Why just not have it work against any ship as long as it has cap? Level restrictions makes no sense

Why just not have it work against any ship as long as it has cap? Level restrictions makes no sense

I agree that a fitting change is also needed. Why do they use MOREthe same PG/grid as Neuts?

You have to give CCP credit...

They came up with the one idea that simultaneously buffs NOS's for use in frigates where they're already popular due to their low cycle times and relative cap drain to fitting.

...while at the same time nerfing them for the large ships where they are not used at all due to weak drain, obnoxious fitting, and long cycle times....none of which were addressed with the change AT ALL.

Do you guys just see that no one is using NOS's and come up with the one idea that doesn't address any of the underlying issues or do you actually ask the player base why they're not fitting them?

For being a module that is "useless" and "never used" these changes sure have shoved a corn cobb in some folks pipes.

This is mostly because it was good at one stage, however they nerfed it so bad that it was useless, and now they are saying that it is getting a fix/buff and they are actually nerfing it again(or at least in relation to Amarrian Ships)

Why do something simple and logical when you can make it convoluted and arbitrary to confuse the player base?

...Yes it makes perfect sense that a battleship with a very expensive deadspace NOS can't drain a single cap from a frigate with a 10k isk cheap NOS that can be permanently run on the huge battleship. Then the BS can fit a cheap Neut and perma cap the frigate in a single pulse ....and then we scratch our heads wondering why the BS still won't fit a NOS with CCP's wonderful change.

I use a couple nosferatus on my navy Vexor. A small change is better than no change at all.

In addition to nosferatus improved I'd also like to see the ridiculous fitting requirements of the capacitor batteries reduced and the batteries themselves improved a bit. Right now, one may as well fit a downgraded cap booster.