The Mining Argument

In EVE it is not convenient for miners to use mining boosts on grid.

I personally think that Off Grid Boosting should remain for mining etc, Rorq's are too risky to bring into a site.

The Fair Argument
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The 'Elite Solo PVP' Argument
Eve contains a small number of elite solo pvpers. These guys are very good indeed. They use OGB to help them fight against whole gangs of pilots solo.

I've said this before, many times, and I'll say it again: off-grid boosting is an equalizing factor for battles with numerical disparities.

If two forces of different size are fighting each other, and the boosting can be done off-grid, then the forces are proportionally as efficient as if there was no boosting at all, assuming no significant differences in boosting skills.

If two forces of different size are fighting each other, and the boosting can only be done on-grid, then the larger force gets a significant advantage over the smaller force, because:

1. the larger force is more able to defend its boosting ships due to being able to proportionally field more logistics
2. the larger force is more able to attack the smaller force's boosting ships because its superior DPS overpowers them quicker
3. the larger force, by its very nature, is more able to field backup boosting ships to immediately replace the ones lost due to enemy action

These three factors combined would make smaller forces objectively worse off when fighting larger ones, and that is on top of having a numerical disadvantage, than they are today.

So, if you advocate on-grid boosting, you're basically saying "I like to blob my enemies, and it would be nice if CCP made it so that I could blob my enemies more efficiently. Please, CCP, change this mechanic so that I am able to use my organization's superior numbers to an even greater advantage over smaller parties. Creating such a disincentive to small-scale pvp would really help me further my own goals at the expense of the game as a whole."

The funny thing is, whilst you were trying to frame the '1,2,3' scenario as totally unfair and unjust, with only the mentally sick thinking it is a realistic way for battles to work, I actually thought it made perfect sense....

I guess I better get my head examined

The reason for this is because CCP cannot code a new 'role bonus' for the Rorqua

The reason for this is because it is actually really difficult for the CCP programmers to fix OGB and will take them a very, very long time. As it will take such a long time, they cannot disable it for that long.

Getting rid of OGB is the dumbest thing CCP can do.
In the last year or so, CCP along with the big alliances in game have, behind closed doors, along with CSM, have decided that solo/small gang pvp is no longer relevant. Why make a group of people happy, when the real money is coming from the mindless sheeps in the large alliances.
Last several years, ccp has done all it can to destroy solo/small gang pvp with killing mods, creating b.ullshit mods that are mediocre, running around the issue of OP ECM.
Now, get rid of OGB,come on dudes. The only people who will use boosts are gonna be the large alliances. They are gonna have double boosts with 3 logi ships dedicated to each booster. What is 3 logi when your corp can field 300+ pilots.
THANK YOU CCP FOR KILLING SOLO/SMALL GANG.

Herein lies the problem of many EVE players. Hope CCP is taking note.

if using boosters has truly come to the point, that solo players feel they can't fight without using one, it's just one more reason to let OGB die in a fire.

In the last year or so, CCP along with the big alliances in game have, behind closed doors, along with CSM, have decided that solo/small gang pvp is no longer relevant.

No, you're wrong. No risk, no gain. No boosting ship on grid, no boost.

The mere fact you people defend the existance of off grid boosting by using solo PvP as justification is pretty hilarious. First, there is nothing solo about it, if you're using multiple characters at the same time. Second, if using boosters has truly come to the point, that solo players feel they can't fight without using one, it's just one more reason to let OGB die in a fire.

From the point of view of a Rorqual/Orca pilot, the removal of off-grid boosting would be fatal to their use in mining ops in null. They aren't used for anything else. People who use them for hauling or as an on-grid boost lose them eventually. Might as well delete them from the game. Paradoxically, the only place the Orca would be used thereafter would be in high sec mining.

So you think that because someone can't be arsed to put in the time to train a Rorq pilot properly, that they should be essentially invulnerable?

POS bashing to kill a booster? That just doesn't sit right with me.

I've said this before, many times, and I'll say it again: off-grid boosting is an equalizing factor for battles with numerical disparities.

If two forces of different size are fighting each other, and the boosting can be done off-grid, then the forces are proportionally as efficient as if there was no boosting at all, assuming no significant differences in boosting skills.

If two forces of different size are fighting each other, and the boosting can only be done on-grid, then the larger force gets a significant advantage over the smaller force, because:

1. the larger force is more able to defend its boosting ships due to being able to proportionally field more logistics
2. the larger force is more able to attack the smaller force's boosting ships because its superior DPS overpowers them quicker
3. the larger force, by its very nature, is more able to field backup boosting ships to immediately replace the ones lost due to enemy action

These three factors combined would make smaller forces objectively worse off when fighting larger ones, and that is on top of having a numerical disadvantage, than they are today.

So, if you advocate on-grid boosting, you're basically saying "I like to blob my enemies, and it would be nice if CCP made it so that I could blob my enemies more efficiently. Please, CCP, change this mechanic so that I am able to use my organization's superior numbers to an even greater advantage over smaller parties. Creating such a disincentive to small-scale pvp would really help me further my own goals at the expense of the game as a whole."