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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:33:00 -
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I see the mechanic described as offering a "Duel", not offering a "Guaranteed Fair and Equal Duel".
If you are concerned have some friends (or people you have hired) wait from those remote reppers to turn suspect.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:20:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:The goon said "legit" Like a goon knows what that is.. LOL Stop with all the eve is not fair. This is one part of eve and it needs to be fair.
Well, good luck with your honourable quest then. o7m8, see you on the battlefield.
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury
Tactical Narcotics Team
249
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Posted - 2013.06.20 20:37:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:Asking and or accepting a 1v1 is saying i want a fair fight.
This is where you lost your way.
You assume too much.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:38:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:Neuntausend wrote:The point was not at all to make duels fair. It was to give people a "legit" and quick way to fight each other in high sec. Before the duel function was implemented, people dropped cans and stole from them to initiate a duel. It worked, but it was also just a workaround, and since CCP remade the whole empire aggression mechanics thingy anyway, they implemented a legit and straightforward way to initiate combat with another capsuleer. I am certain it was never intended to make eve a space-honourable esports game. The goon said "legit" Like a goon knows what that is.. LOL Stop with all the eve is not fair. This is one part of eve and it needs to be fair. You can say it all day that eve is unfair. But it dose not change that have a 1v1 system that lets other become involved in is still a broken part of the game. They did alot of things right with this game. and they have done alot wrong. This one is wrong. Just concord people and move on. Easy fix.
The point of adding duels was not to create fair fights. Thats where you are falling down. CCP are VIKINGS they eat their guests! Do you know how many people have never returned from Fancest??? I dont either but I bet they could make an entire season of CSI out of it.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
528
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:41:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Duels are only as honest as the people participating.
This. Duel with your Alliance mates, ex-corp members and friends if you want an honest 1vs1. The fact this system can be gamed makes it better, not worse. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:54:00 -
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Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis
Expoit This Mf's
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Posted - 2013.06.20 22:59:00 -
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I have never accepted a duel especially after I met a very experienced player in one encounter. Guy challenges me to a duel - he's in a Merlin, I'm in a Kestral. Hmmmm something fishy. So I declined it. Guy chats me and says Jimmy you made the right decision. I've got buddies just around the corner. I said yeah I thought something was up - so why are you running around challenging duels with backup? He said to see if any newbs are stupid enough to accept.
He turned out to be a really cool guy and talked to me for a long while giving me tips and such. But this leads to my question about dueling: If everyone in hisec wises up and doesn't accept a duel, and there are no duels, then what is the purpose for adding the dueling mechanic? I'm not asking for fair - I'm just wondering if everyone knows that a duel won't be a real duel but a slaughterfest, and no one engages in it, then it's worthless. Their can't be that many ignorant people left in hisec that don't know the lowdown of what a duel really entails. |
Anti-social Tendencies
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:04:00 -
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The OP makes a valid point and deserves more than the trolling he has gotten. Not sure I agree with him, but he doesn't deserve to be trashed.
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GreenSeed
505
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:21:00 -
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if you want a fair duel look for some of the other 99% of eve players that don't stand around at the jita/dodi/amarr undock... |
Krazynikomo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:29:00 -
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The moment you log into EVE, is the moment you say you don't want a fair fight.
Get used to it. |
Allieoren Sunji
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:30:00 -
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MickeyFinn wrote:1v1 can be a fun way to pass the time right? Then 10 guards come in and perma tank everything. Whats stopping CCP from just hitting a remote repper with concord. Forget suspect. You get 10 guards linked and on field... Its going to take alot of DPS to break them.
So just concord them. Plain. Simple and perfect. Asking and or accepting a 1v1 is saying i want a fair fight. So again. Concord is what a high sec RR alt should get for repping a 1v1 fight under the duel duel mechanic.
Take it from a pirate.. Eve life is not always fair 1v1's. But pointless to have a duel mechanic if its not really ever a true 1v1.. lol
Thanks for making another pointless mechanic.
MickeyFinn
why don't you suggest an introduction of an arena where you can fight against other teams in ~fairfights~
good luck to you in advance
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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 03:37:00 -
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My favorite one is when the guy Warps off to his alt, climbs into a shuttle, pops himself, spawns in station and undocks in the perfect ship, all while your ship is identified and scanned for fitting.
10/10 broken throughout completely.
Dualing should be, as soon as you dock or eject from ship, ship goes boom/byby |
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